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Why is no one interested in the Hammers job? One of the lower league clubs can surely pick it up.

Bids on 15 or so players now, now or never.
 
Chelsea, Manchester United, Leicester City, Norwich City, Bayer Leverkusen, Hamburg SV & VFB Stuttgart were in attendance at the Midtjylland v Club Brugge game.

Sisto to Utd in Jan? lel
 
So here's the attendance figures for last round of games. The number before the club represents the position in the table they were in before the game was played.

1 - Norwich City / 99.95%
2 - Everton / 99.94%
5 - Nottingham Forest / 97.19%
7 - Manchester City / 91.19%
9 - Chelsea / 99.51%
11 - Stoke City / 78.85%
12 - Fulham / 75.89%
13 - Tottenham Hotspur / 73.05%
14 - Arsenal / 86.03%
19 - Plymouth Argyle / 53.96%

Glad to see it's been fixed... :lol:
 
So here's the attendance figures for last round of games. The number before the club represents the position in the table they were in before the game was played.

1 - Norwich City / 99.95%
2 - Everton / 99.94%
5 - Nottingham Forest / 97.19%
7 - Manchester City / 91.19%
9 - Chelsea / 99.51%
11 - Stoke City / 78.85%
12 - Fulham / 75.89%
13 - Tottenham Hotspur / 73.05%
14 - Arsenal / 86.03%
19 - Plymouth Argyle / 53.96%

Glad to see it's been fixed... :lol:

I don't think my numbers were calculated as per 86%. I barely made 100k whereas I had made 500k or so for the previous game. Something similar happened with Chelsea.

I don't think the system in place is actually working atm, it's all a bit random.
 
I don't think my numbers were calculated as per 86%. I barely made 100k whereas I had made 500k or so for the previous game. Something similar happened with Chelsea.

I don't think the system in place is actually working atm, it's all a bit random.

You got 51,991 attendance from 60,432 which is 86.03%. Not exactly sure how you got that figure given that everyone around you were in the 70's. Seems to leap out as an inconsistency to me, as does the Chelsea attendance and obviously the Plymouth one. The rest do have a slow decline in attendance based on position. If I remove the 3 I mention you get the following:

1 - Norwich City / 99.95%
2 - Everton / 99.94%
5 - Nottingham Forest / 97.19%
7 - Manchester City / 91.19%
11 - Stoke City / 78.85%
12 - Fulham / 75.89%
13 - Tottenham Hotspur / 73.05%
 
You got 51,991 attendance from 60,432 which is 86.03%. Not exactly sure how you got that figure given that everyone around you were in the 70's. Seems to leap out as an inconsistency to me, as does the Chelsea attendance and obviously the Plymouth one. The rest do have a slow decline in attendance based on position. If I remove the 3 I mention you get the following:

1 - Norwich City / 99.95%
2 - Everton / 99.94%
5 - Nottingham Forest / 97.19%
7 - Manchester City / 91.19%
11 - Stoke City / 78.85%
12 - Fulham / 75.89%
13 - Tottenham Hotspur / 73.05%
I was talking about income when I referred to numbers. Can you please see if the difference comes to 500k taking into account the attendance numbers for the last 2 home games?
 
Why is no one interested in the Hammers job? One of the lower league clubs can surely pick it up.

Bids on 15 or so players now, now or never.

I want to see how far I can take Charlton before I decide to move up. It's getting hard though with such limited finances.
 
I was talking about income when I referred to numbers. Can you please see if the difference comes to 500k taking into account the attendance numbers for the last 2 home games?

*Technically the below figures are slightly off because the TV

Arsenal v Chelsea (Old Engine) - 60,410 Attendance - Total Income: £2,340,944
Arsenal v West Ham (New Engine) - 51,991 Attendance - Total Income: £2,745,958

If Arsenal v West Ham had the same Attendance as the Chelsea game... £3,099,556
 
I want to see how far I can take Charlton before I decide to move up. It's getting hard though with such limited finances.
That's fair enough but you gotta compare that against the opportunity at hand. 1st div clubs aren't available normally. Saying this because you admit you will eventually move up.
 
Arsenal v Chelsea (Old Engine) - 60,410 Attendance - Total Income: £2,797,096
Arsenal v West Ham (New Engine) - 51,991 Attendance - Total Income: £3,308,294

If Arsenal v West Ham has the same Attendance as the Chelsea game... £3,661,892

Ah feck, completely forgot that was the old engine anyways.
 
Those figures were slightly wrong anyway as I forgot to half the TV Revenue as you only wanted the Home Game Total Income. I've edited it.

But due to your lower attendance you missed out on £353,598.
It's going to be an absolute massacre financially. Losing 30mil or thereabouts a season as things stand. It isn't even realistic if that's what this was supposed to achieve. They have made the wages realistic without bumping revenue accordingly.
 
It's going to be an absolute massacre financially. Losing 30mil or thereabouts a season as things stand. It isn't even realistic if that's what this was supposed to achieve. They have made the wages realistic without bumping revenue accordingly.

Just consider how horrible it must be for clubs with smaller stadiums in Div2. Pretty much impossible to progress, don't get stadium upgrades, can't afford wages to get a decent first eleven so they basically have to try and fluke it with the crap match engine.

The reward for getting into Division 1 is even greater now given the cash outs and now the bullshit stadium upgrade. To put it into perspective let me look at Bournemouth as an example:

AFC Bournemouth - 16,754 (max capacity)

Below are the figures if they had max capacity each game:

Incomes:

Home Games = £1,009,551
Away Games = £305,883

Expenditure:
Home Games = £117,278

Grand Total: £1,198,156

If we now put in the average attendance: 11,694

Grand Total: £1,021,056

So you get 2 wage bills a week, so you need to divide that by 2 which gets you £510,528. That's his wage budget to break even each week.

Doing a quick look that would allow him a squad of:

14 players producing a wage of 483k roughly. (I say roughly as I used the lowest wages for each rating group).

3 x 90 players
5 x 89 players
6 x 88 players
 
Just consider how horrible it must be for clubs with smaller stadiums in Div2. Pretty much impossible to progress, don't get stadium upgrades, can't afford wages to get a decent first eleven so they basically have to try and fluke it with the crap match engine.

The reward for getting into Division 1 is even greater now given the cash outs and now the bullshit stadium upgrade. To put it into perspective let me look at Bournemouth as an example:

AFC Bournemouth - 16,754 (max capacity)

Below are the figures if they had max capacity each game:

Incomes:

Home Games = £1,009,551
Away Games = £305,883

Expenditure:
Home Games = £117,278

Grand Total: £1,198,156

If we now put in the average attendance: 11,694

Grand Total: £1,021,056

So you get 2 wage bills a week, so you need to divide that by 2 which gets you £510,528. That's his wage budget to break even each week.

Doing a quick look that would allow him a squad of:

14 players producing a wage of 483k roughly. (I say roughly as I used the lowest wages for each rating group).

3 x 90 players
5 x 89 players
6 x 88 players

Christ. That's enough to suck out the enjoyment of playing the game tbf. I guess every squad will need to have a team a tier below what they could have in real life which is just bizarre.
 
Rating - Old - New
92 - 60 - 107
91 - 50 - 85
90 - 45 - 65
89 - 31 - 50
88 - 28 - 28
87 - 25 - 25
86 - 19 - 19

So 88 and below are same wages, 89 and above have been changed.
 
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Why the fook hasn't anyone taken WH yet? I'd be all over that if i was in Div 2.
 
Why the fook hasn't anyone taken WH yet? I'd be all over that if i was in Div 2.
Been tempted after the financial situation in Div 2, I lost another 800k yesterday, well & truly in the red. But I've been with MKD's since the start and think I have a better first XI
 
Using Average Attendance of 11,694

Bournemouth Old Engine:

Grand Total: £730,727

Bournemouth New Engine:
Grand Total: £1,021,056

So if we use the above wage table (look a few posts above). You can form a squad of 14 players (could fill out the rest with 10k players).

1 x 90, 2 x 89, 3 x 88, 3 x 87, 5 x 86

Old Wages: £361k - £722k (when you double wages up)
New Wages: £419k - £838k

Bournemouth Old Engine:
Grand Total: £8,727 (minus wages)

Bournemouth New Engine:
Grand Total: £183,056 (minus wages)

So there is a very small financial increase using the new engine for small teams.
 
Using Average Attendance of 11,694

Bournemouth Old Engine:

Grand Total: £730,727

Bournemouth New Engine:
Grand Total: £1,021,056

So if we use the above wage table (look a few posts above). You can form a squad of 14 players (could fill out the rest with 10k players).

1 x 90, 2 x 89, 3 x 88, 3 x 87, 5 x 86

Old Wages: £361k - £722k (when you double wages up)
New Wages: £419k - £838k

Bournemouth Old Engine:
Grand Total: £8,727 (minus wages)

Bournemouth New Engine:
Grand Total: £183,056 (minus wages)

So there is a very small financial increase using the new engine for small teams.

The money made cant be made to improve the squad either because as soon as you use it to get a couple of high rated players, the profit is gone. So you either choose to make small profits continuously or improve the actual 1st 11.
 
Been tempted after the financial situation in Div 2, I lost another 800k yesterday, well & truly in the red. But I've been with MKD's since the start and think I have a better first XI

Your total squad value is actually higher than WHU.
 
Not fussed with West Ham, I'll wait for red sky to have a mental breakdown.