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Just realized Zappacosta signed for Torino as replacement for Darmian. Odd considering Juventus made an official bid and Liverpool too were interested.
I'm liking that N'Jie is being linked to Arsenal and Berahino is being linked to Spurs. Make it happen please football gods!
I'm not liking that Adama Traore is being linked with Stoke.
I never claimed such a thing. It was everyone else who said that because I was defending the game.
If anything the loss last night further fuels my functionality claims considering my defence were at around 85-90% fitness and they performed the worst.
Yarmolenko was linked to Stoke for awhile and I was shit scared about it
LVG playing Blind as a CB is good news for me. Was worried he might lose the position and I'm already short a defender after selling Clyne.
Baines and Tadic for sale.
Hopefully Memphis will be given a position change to be able to play as AM and CF soon
Worrying thing for me is that Stoke seem to be making many signings who have been at Barcelona at one pointYarmolenko was linked to Stoke for awhile and I was shit scared about it
Justified complaints that are being addressed by the developers as they're fully aware that they're big faults with the current game.
No they're not. Valuing all players the same actually breaks the game for smaller clubs who can only make money on risers which they won't be able to cost-effective to buy when competing with bigger clubs.
Live games always require improvement but your claims that SM is totally random are ridiculous.
Wrong. Increased wages will make it far tougher for the bigger squads as I've already demonstrated. Smaller clubs will be able to manage their wages far easier than larger clubs with big squads, it actually breaks the game for clubs like myself, Reading, Darlington etc who have big squads but have small stadiums (in comparison to other Div 1 clubs).
It doesn't really effect small clubs at all because the wages of players rated 87 and below won't increase.
The match engine is utterly random, cup games are a joke and league games produce cycles of dominance followed by a cycle of struggle. Promoted clubs get newbie tax and don't tend to struggle much, some promoted clubs way over achieve with the squad they have. Assistant managers makes Europe pretty much a non entity for non gold members, tactics are completely arsehat as demonstrated by the bench tactic. The fact you believe otherwise amuses all of us, you think there's some magic formula when it's just blind luck. feck knows how I won a title, ok I had Cavani and Lewandowski up front, but my defense was awful. Then you have Chelsea who won the league fairly recently and is now deep down in a relegation dogfight having made very few changes to his first team.
The match engine is awful which is why the users on the SM Forum are largely excited/positive about the changes being made. They're all positive changes to the current game.
Where do you check what league is being reviewed?
We're talking about player values and not wages. Example from yesterday's transfer:
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Dominik KOHR has shocked Arsenal (Varun .) fans by moving to Southend United (green smiley) for £5,000,000.Currently: Value at Arsenal £4m, smiley pays £5m, value at Southend £6.6m, already at £1.6m profit
New changes: Value at Arsenal £4m, smiley pays £5m, value at Southend £4m, smiley is already at a loss of £1m and can only wait for him to rise substantially in order to profit.
The increase in wages will make feck all difference for bigger clubs. If you believe that me and the rest of the Div 1 minnows will be able to compete with you and Darlington once the wage change is made you're more delusional than I thought and I shouldn't really waste time debating
You can't assess one without the other as they both balance each other out using the new system. Yes my squad value will increase in the new update, but my wages will go up significantly as well, this will mean that I will have to either:
1. Sell lots of my players so I can reduce the wages and make it a manageable loss each week.
2. Don't care about the wages and sell 2/3 players for 15-20m at the end of each season to rebalance the books and clear my debt.
Also, in your example, Southend would recoup any loss he made initially with a simple +1/2 rating increase, that's not a substantial rise at all. Everyone will be in the same position, all of our players will increase in value, meaning there will be more money in the game. If you can't work out that the big clubs will have a significant issue with wages (as I already highlighted a week ago) then you're obviously failing to see the whole point of the new system...
They really will not. You did a wage comparison and Damos wages for example work out at of £1m extra a week for a total of about £2.5m. I have Manchester United in another GW and my weekly income is circa £3m therefore that's why I keep saying that the changes would hardly make a dent in his finances. You and Ben are special cases with your small stadiums but regardless of this I still won't be able to compete with either when the new system kicks in, because all my income comes from cash cows!
Check your gameworlds economy setting, pretty sure Damien was moaning when we implemented FFP because he doesn't get as much income as we all think he does. That extra 1m is a total of 19m across the season, that's going to hurt him. My wage increase would be 650k a week, which for a club like me is huge, i'm already making a substantial loss each week so that will hit me hard. It'll hit all of the clubs with large senior squads hard and will result in them either selling some players on big wages or selling several squad players to make up the difference.
The wages won't hurt the smaller clubs however as the majority of their squads won't be effected by the wage increase. This is why it's a good system because it punishes players who horde players with massive wages but allows players to have their value represented fairly. To put this point into context...
Andre Ayew is valued at 7.8m in my squad but my chairman values him at 16.7m.
Damo posted a screenshot before and does not clear that much, whatever settings that game world is on. Majority of us have no more than 50k, I'd make a loss of 200k per week if the new wages came in. My Squad at Newcastle isnt exactly hogging players either, I'd have to sell 2 or 3 players that are in or around my first team.
I understand what is happening with wages but you can make that as you said by selling one player or two tops. However once the values kick in I cannot afford to buy the players you are selling and neither will any of the other minnows. We don't have money as it is and player valuations will not help us in any way so this is my whole issue with the proposed changes. It kills our chances of competing.
Bollocks does it, it just means that you'll have to do what I did and buy up risers and have a bit of patience and watch them rise up in value as their ratings go up. What it means is that clubs won't be able to get bargain basement deals on players in our squads. Players like Korb and Ayew will be priced at their genuine value and not this rubbish squad value. It also means we'll probably therefore be seeing far more players being sold back to external clubs and therefore more bidding wars. I for one will enjoy that.
If the wages were to increase by the amount they're testing, then my wages for the full season would be about 70m. My income is about half that amount for a season, so i'd be having to fork out about 30-35m on player sales just to break even.
Also I got Damiens maths wrong. He's on 2.7m wages, which is 102m a season. Granted he probably has about 60m income, but he'd probably need to sell a similar amount. Therefore the only sensible course of action for the big teams to make is to trim down their squads by 4-5 88+ players to try and make the loss manageable.
You bought up loads of risers when there were so few of you in the league. What chance do we have right now considering big clubs will consider selling big earners and stockpile youth? Come on don't tell me you can't see how these changes are bad for small clubs.
I've asked them to clarify if ALL the changes will be implemented to all GW or only new ones created.
I made the most transfers in Season 2 when there was actually more managers than currently. It can be done, just needs good scouting. Also that was at the time when Reading, Arsenal, Darlington and United were buying anything that breathed. It was extremely competitive.
As for the changes, they probably won't be released in time for mid August, so this seasons batch of risers won't be bought up by us. So you'll have a seasons jump on us.
For the first few seasons there were up to 60 managers in the league.
Also I'd like to point out how well Southend is doing. His squad value is rapidly increasing despite being one of the smallest clubs in this current gameworld.
What are you discussing anyway? I admit to not reading the posts here since Stain's
There are five levels of economy for leagues:
- Poor economy
- Normal economy
- Strong economy
- Rich economy
- Very rich economy
Its the RAWK league. Its definitely on normal economy. This is a screenshot of my earnings:
What turn are you on?
I've been spending every penny on stockpiling youngsters now in anticipation of the silly value changes! I won't have that much of a headstart considering my squad value and size is about 3 times less than yours lol
Season 18 - Turn 30.
hmm okay.
Yup, everyone needs to give me a big round of applause for making it happen.
Still think its unfair that am lumped in with united and their 1000k stadium /whinges
Slightly bigger violin. C'mon!
Exploiting the weak and vulnerable from a position of trust is a borderline criminal offence. Shame on you @Damien!
More money than sense!
Fighting relegation. Sell your 1st team.
Innovative la.
Innovative la.
Crazy to think of the players he once had.
He had Hazard, Neymar, Cavani and Vidal and now has Zlatan and about £70m.