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[BenitoSTARR]

You can do whatever you want.

You've been screwed by ONE person. What gives the impression we are all happy to do the same? We aren't condoning anything, but there's nothing anyone can do about it either.

You'll find that historically some people have found it difficult to get deals because people know they are difficult to deal with. Other people seem to have all the deals going their way because they are trustworthy. Its pretty real to life tbf.

I don’t wish to be dishonest nor do anyone out of deals that are agreed.

Good point I’ve not had any bad experiences with anyone else so apologies if it came across that way.

For what it’s worth I am open to deals and if Perisic falls through I’ll just learn in future about the characters of individuals rather than having a moan.

 

[RedSky]

Way I see it, once you hit the transfer accept button then you've signed the documents and everything is done and dusted. Up until that point the deal can break down, just like in real life.

 

[Damien]

DRAFT (MANSFIELD TOWN)

# of players available: 26 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules

1. Refer to "Draft Order"
2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
4. Inform the next person in draft order
5. Cash only. No P/E
   • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
   • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
   • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
   • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
7. Must comply with FFP
8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Mansfield Town

Draft Order

Spoiler: Draft Order

Preston North End - Luke Shaw (£11M)
Gillingham - Wilfried Zaha (£12.76M)
Charlton Athletic - Steven Bergwijn (£18.2M)
Leeds United - Missed out
Kidderminster Harriers - Nicolas Raskin (£520k)
Leyton Orient - Arkadiusz Milik (£18.2M)
Bury - Kurt Zouma (£15M)
West Ham United - Cody Gakpo (£4.2M)
Tottenham - Missed out
Ipswich Town - Abdou Diallo (£18M)
Blackburn Rovers - Roger Ibanez (£3.3M)
Barnsley - £275.9M (Transfer Banned, Inelligible for draft)
MK Dons - Hans Hateboer (£13.5M)
Southampton - Missed out
Bristol City - Kyle Walker-Peters (£3M)
Norwich City - Missed out
Cardiff City - £316.4M (Transfer Banned, Ineligible for draft)
Hereford - Junior Firpo (£12M)
Middlesbrough - Conor Coady (£11.7M)
Bournemouth - Ivan Rakitic (£10.95M)
Fulham - Missed out
Chelsea - Luca Waldschmidt (£12M)
Newcastle Utd - Albert Lokonga (£4.2M)
Manchester City - Skip
Darlington - Robin Koch (£12M)
Liverpool - Missed out
Wolves - £414.3M
Aston Villa - £433.5M
Sunderland - £434.7M
Arsenal - £446.6M
Southend Utd - £493.9M
Nottingham Forest - £547.7M
Everton - £555M
Manchester Utd - £755.4M

@Wino1's turn

 

[Damien]

DRAFT (MANSFIELD TOWN)

# of players available: 26 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules

1. Refer to "Draft Order"
2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
4. Inform the next person in draft order
5. Cash only. No P/E
   • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
   • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
   • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
   • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
7. Must comply with FFP
8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Mansfield Town

Draft Order

Spoiler: Draft Order

Preston North End - Luke Shaw (£11M)
Gillingham - Wilfried Zaha (£12.76M)
Charlton Athletic - Steven Bergwijn (£18.2M)
Leeds United - Missed out
Kidderminster Harriers - Nicolas Raskin (£520k)
Leyton Orient - Arkadiusz Milik (£18.2M)
Bury - Kurt Zouma (£15M)
West Ham United - Cody Gakpo (£4.2M)
Tottenham - Missed out
Ipswich Town - Abdou Diallo (£18M)
Blackburn Rovers - Roger Ibanez (£3.3M)
Barnsley - £275.9M (Transfer Banned, Inelligible for draft)
MK Dons - Hans Hateboer (£13.5M)
Southampton - Missed out
Bristol City - Kyle Walker-Peters (£3M)
Norwich City - Missed out
Cardiff City - £316.4M (Transfer Banned, Ineligible for draft)
Hereford - Junior Firpo (£12M)
Middlesbrough - Conor Coady (£11.7M)
Bournemouth - Ivan Rakitic (£10.95M)
Fulham - Missed out
Chelsea - Luca Waldschmidt (£12M)
Newcastle Utd - Albert Lokonga (£4.2M)
Manchester City - Skip
Darlington - Robin Koch (£12M)
Liverpool - Missed out
Wolves - Emmanuel Dennis (£14M)
Aston Villa - £433.5M
Sunderland - £434.7M
Arsenal - £446.6M
Southend Utd - £493.9M
Nottingham Forest - £547.7M
Everton - £555M
Manchester Utd - £755.4M

@Gythio

 

[Gythio]

I skip!

 

[Damien]

DRAFT (MANSFIELD TOWN)

# of players available: 26 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules

1. Refer to "Draft Order"
2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
4. Inform the next person in draft order
5. Cash only. No P/E
   • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
   • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
   • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
   • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
7. Must comply with FFP
8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Mansfield Town

Draft Order

Spoiler: Draft Order

Preston North End - Luke Shaw (£11M)
Gillingham - Wilfried Zaha (£12.76M)
Charlton Athletic - Steven Bergwijn (£18.2M)
Leeds United - Missed out
Kidderminster Harriers - Nicolas Raskin (£520k)
Leyton Orient - Arkadiusz Milik (£18.2M)
Bury - Kurt Zouma (£15M)
West Ham United - Cody Gakpo (£4.2M)
Tottenham - Missed out
Ipswich Town - Abdou Diallo (£18M)
Blackburn Rovers - Roger Ibanez (£3.3M)
Barnsley - £275.9M (Transfer Banned, Inelligible for draft)
MK Dons - Hans Hateboer (£13.5M)
Southampton - Missed out
Bristol City - Kyle Walker-Peters (£3M)
Norwich City - Missed out
Cardiff City - £316.4M (Transfer Banned, Ineligible for draft)
Hereford - Junior Firpo (£12M)
Middlesbrough - Conor Coady (£11.7M)
Bournemouth - Ivan Rakitic (£10.95M)
Fulham - Missed out
Chelsea - Luca Waldschmidt (£12M)
Newcastle Utd - Albert Lokonga (£4.2M)
Manchester City - Skip
Darlington - Robin Koch (£12M)
Liverpool - Missed out
Wolves - Emmanuel Dennis (£14M)
Aston Villa - Skip
Sunderland - £434.7M
Arsenal - £446.6M
Southend Utd - £493.9M
Nottingham Forest - £547.7M
Everton - £555M
Manchester Utd - £755.4M

@2mufc0

 

[Damien]

DRAFT (MANSFIELD TOWN)

# of players available: 26 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules

1. Refer to "Draft Order"
2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
4. Inform the next person in draft order
5. Cash only. No P/E
   • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
   • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
   • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
   • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
7. Must comply with FFP
8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Mansfield Town

Draft Order

Spoiler: Draft Order

Preston North End - Luke Shaw (£11M)
Gillingham - Wilfried Zaha (£12.76M)
Charlton Athletic - Steven Bergwijn (£18.2M)
Leeds United - Missed out
Kidderminster Harriers - Nicolas Raskin (£520k)
Leyton Orient - Arkadiusz Milik (£18.2M)
Bury - Kurt Zouma (£15M)
West Ham United - Cody Gakpo (£4.2M)
Tottenham - Missed out
Ipswich Town - Abdou Diallo (£18M)
Blackburn Rovers - Roger Ibanez (£3.3M)
Barnsley - £275.9M (Transfer Banned, Inelligible for draft)
MK Dons - Hans Hateboer (£13.5M)
Southampton - Missed out
Bristol City - Kyle Walker-Peters (£3M)
Norwich City - Missed out
Cardiff City - £316.4M (Transfer Banned, Ineligible for draft)
Hereford - Junior Firpo (£12M)
Middlesbrough - Conor Coady (£11.7M)
Bournemouth - Ivan Rakitic (£10.95M)
Fulham - Missed out
Chelsea - Luca Waldschmidt (£12M)
Newcastle Utd - Albert Lokonga (£4.2M)
Manchester City - Skip
Darlington - Robin Koch (£12M)
Liverpool - Missed out
Wolves - Emmanuel Dennis (£14M)
Aston Villa - Skip
Sunderland - Skip
Arsenal - £446.6M
Southend Utd - £493.9M
Nottingham Forest - £547.7M
Everton - £555M
Manchester Utd - £755.4M

@Varun

 

[Varun]

DRAFT (MANSFIELD TOWN)

# of players available: 26 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules

1. Refer to "Draft Order"
2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
4. Inform the next person in draft order
5. Cash only. No P/E
   • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
   • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
   • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
   • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
7. Must comply with FFP
8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Mansfield Town

Draft Order

Spoiler: Draft Order

Preston North End - Luke Shaw (£11M)
Gillingham - Wilfried Zaha (£12.76M)
Charlton Athletic - Steven Bergwijn (£18.2M)
Leeds United - Missed out
Kidderminster Harriers - Nicolas Raskin (£520k)
Leyton Orient - Arkadiusz Milik (£18.2M)
Bury - Kurt Zouma (£15M)
West Ham United - Cody Gakpo (£4.2M)
Tottenham - Missed out
Ipswich Town - Abdou Diallo (£18M)
Blackburn Rovers - Roger Ibanez (£3.3M)
Barnsley - £275.9M (Transfer Banned, Inelligible for draft)
MK Dons - Hans Hateboer (£13.5M)
Southampton - Missed out
Bristol City - Kyle Walker-Peters (£3M)
Norwich City - Missed out
Cardiff City - £316.4M (Transfer Banned, Ineligible for draft)
Hereford - Junior Firpo (£12M)
Middlesbrough - Conor Coady (£11.7M)
Bournemouth - Ivan Rakitic (£10.95M)
Fulham - Missed out
Chelsea - Luca Waldschmidt (£12M)
Newcastle Utd - Albert Lokonga (£4.2M)
Manchester City - Skip
Darlington - Robin Koch (£12M)
Liverpool - Missed out
Wolves - Emmanuel Dennis (£14M)
Aston Villa - Skip
Sunderland - Skip
Arsenal - £446.6M
Southend Utd - £493.9M
Nottingham Forest - £547.7M
Everton - £555M
Manchester Utd - £755.4M

@Varun

Skip because I'm having beer and CBA

 

[Damien]

DRAFT (MANSFIELD TOWN)

# of players available: 26 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules

1. Refer to "Draft Order"
2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
4. Inform the next person in draft order
5. Cash only. No P/E
   • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
   • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
   • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
   • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
7. Must comply with FFP
8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Mansfield Town

Draft Order

Spoiler: Draft Order

Preston North End - Luke Shaw (£11M)
Gillingham - Wilfried Zaha (£12.76M)
Charlton Athletic - Steven Bergwijn (£18.2M)
Leeds United - Missed out
Kidderminster Harriers - Nicolas Raskin (£520k)
Leyton Orient - Arkadiusz Milik (£18.2M)
Bury - Kurt Zouma (£15M)
West Ham United - Cody Gakpo (£4.2M)
Tottenham - Missed out
Ipswich Town - Abdou Diallo (£18M)
Blackburn Rovers - Roger Ibanez (£3.3M)
Barnsley - £275.9M (Transfer Banned, Inelligible for draft)
MK Dons - Hans Hateboer (£13.5M)
Southampton - Missed out
Bristol City - Kyle Walker-Peters (£3M)
Norwich City - Missed out
Cardiff City - £316.4M (Transfer Banned, Ineligible for draft)
Hereford - Junior Firpo (£12M)
Middlesbrough - Conor Coady (£11.7M)
Bournemouth - Ivan Rakitic (£10.95M)
Fulham - Missed out
Chelsea - Luca Waldschmidt (£12M)
Newcastle Utd - Albert Lokonga (£4.2M)
Manchester City - Skip
Darlington - Robin Koch (£12M)
Liverpool - Missed out
Wolves - Emmanuel Dennis (£14M)
Aston Villa - Skip
Sunderland - Skip
Arsenal - Skip
Southend Utd - £493.9M
Nottingham Forest - £547.7M
Everton - £555M
Manchester Utd - £755.4M

Now the cool kids. Will let greeny know.

 

[Damien]

DRAFT (MANSFIELD TOWN)

# of players available: 26 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules

1. Refer to "Draft Order"
2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
4. Inform the next person in draft order
5. Cash only. No P/E
   • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
   • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
   • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
   • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
7. Must comply with FFP
8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Mansfield Town

Draft Order

Spoiler: Draft Order

Preston North End - Luke Shaw (£11M)
Gillingham - Wilfried Zaha (£12.76M)
Charlton Athletic - Steven Bergwijn (£18.2M)
Leeds United - Missed out
Kidderminster Harriers - Nicolas Raskin (£520k)
Leyton Orient - Arkadiusz Milik (£18.2M)
Bury - Kurt Zouma (£15M)
West Ham United - Cody Gakpo (£4.2M)
Tottenham - Missed out
Ipswich Town - Abdou Diallo (£18M)
Blackburn Rovers - Roger Ibanez (£3.3M)
Barnsley - £275.9M (Transfer Banned, Inelligible for draft)
MK Dons - Hans Hateboer (£13.5M)
Southampton - Missed out
Bristol City - Kyle Walker-Peters (£3M)
Norwich City - Missed out
Cardiff City - £316.4M (Transfer Banned, Ineligible for draft)
Hereford - Junior Firpo (£12M)
Middlesbrough - Conor Coady (£11.7M)
Bournemouth - Ivan Rakitic (£10.95M)
Fulham - Missed out
Chelsea - Luca Waldschmidt (£12M)
Newcastle Utd - Albert Lokonga (£4.2M)
Manchester City - Skip
Darlington - Robin Koch (£12M)
Liverpool - Missed out
Wolves - Emmanuel Dennis (£14M)
Aston Villa - Skip
Sunderland - Skip
Arsenal - Skip
Southend Utd - Nathan Wood (£560k)
Nottingham Forest - £547.7M
Everton - £555M
Manchester Utd - £755.4M

@The Taurean

 

[Damien]

Manchester United have now officially won their 31st trophy, beating Mansfield Town 4:1 in the Charity Shield. Would much rather have RR still here. Chance at another trophy tomorrow but before we play, @CrackersJr needs to ask himself this: "Do I really want to break my streak of only winning the SMFA Shield?"

Oblak (95)

Elvedi (90) Boateng (91)↓ Christensen (90) Gaya (91)
Zakaria (91) Kovacic (91)
Brandt (91) -- Goretzka (92)↓ -- Pulisic (91)↓
Vinicius Jr (89)​

Subs: Trent (93), Van Dijk (96), Alaba (93), Kroos (95), Eriksen (93)↑, Sancho (92)↑, Sterling (94)↑
Did not travel: Ramos (95), Mbappe (95), Griezmann (94), Under (89 - fortheloveofgodsomeoneloanhimplease)

Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on

Manchester United v Mansfield Town fixtures this season

Game	Utd Poss	Mansfield Poss	Utd Shots (SoT)	Mansfield Shots (SoT)	Utd Goals	Mansfield Goals	Utd SoT Conv.	Mansfield SoT Conv.
11th September: Mansfield Town v Utd (Charity Shield)​	66%​	34%​	26 (14)​	5 (1)​	4​	1​	28.6%​	100%​
Combined​	66%​	34%​	26 (14)​	5 (1)​	4​	1​	28.6%​	100%​

Spoiler: major honours won

 

[CrackersJr]

Manchester United have now officially won their 31st trophy, beating Mansfield Town 4:1 in the Charity Shield. Would much rather have RR still here. Chance at another trophy tomorrow but before we play, @CrackersJr needs to ask himself this: "Do I really want to break my streak of only winning the SMFA Shield?"

Oblak (95)

Elvedi (90) Boateng (91)↓ Christensen (90) Gaya (91)
Zakaria (91) Kovacic (91)
Brandt (91) -- Goretzka (92)↓ -- Pulisic (91)↓
Vinicius Jr (89)​

Subs: Trent (93), Van Dijk (96), Alaba (93), Kroos (95), Eriksen (93)↑, Sancho (92)↑, Sterling (94)↑
Did not travel: Ramos (95), Mbappe (95), Griezmann (94), Under (89 - fortheloveofgodsomeoneloanhimplease)

Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on

Manchester United v Mansfield Town fixtures this season

Game	Utd Poss	Mansfield Poss	Utd Shots (SoT)	Mansfield Shots (SoT)	Utd Goals	Mansfield Goals	Utd SoT Conv.	Mansfield SoT Conv.
11th September: Mansfield Town v Utd (Charity Shield)​	66%​	34%​	26 (14)​	5 (1)​	4​	1​	28.6%​	100%​
Combined​	66%​	34%​	26 (14)​	5 (1)​	4​	1​	28.6%​	100%​

Spoiler: major honours won

Yes, yes I do. But am I? No, no I am not....

 

[The Taurean]

DRAFT (MANSFIELD TOWN)

# of players available: 26 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules

1. Refer to "Draft Order"
2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
4. Inform the next person in draft order
5. Cash only. No P/E
   • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
   • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
   • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
   • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
7. Must comply with FFP
8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Mansfield Town

Draft Order

Spoiler: Draft Order

Preston North End - Luke Shaw (£11M)
Gillingham - Wilfried Zaha (£12.76M)
Charlton Athletic - Steven Bergwijn (£18.2M)
Leeds United - Missed out
Kidderminster Harriers - Nicolas Raskin (£520k)
Leyton Orient - Arkadiusz Milik (£18.2M)
Bury - Kurt Zouma (£15M)
West Ham United - Cody Gakpo (£4.2M)
Tottenham - Missed out
Ipswich Town - Abdou Diallo (£18M)
Blackburn Rovers - Roger Ibanez (£3.3M)
Barnsley - £275.9M (Transfer Banned, Inelligible for draft)
MK Dons - Hans Hateboer (£13.5M)
Southampton - Missed out
Bristol City - Kyle Walker-Peters (£3M)
Norwich City - Missed out
Cardiff City - £316.4M (Transfer Banned, Ineligible for draft)
Hereford - Junior Firpo (£12M)
Middlesbrough - Conor Coady (£11.7M)
Bournemouth - Ivan Rakitic (£10.95M)
Fulham - Missed out
Chelsea - Luca Waldschmidt (£12M)
Newcastle Utd - Albert Lokonga (£4.2M)
Manchester City - Skip
Darlington - Robin Koch (£12M)
Liverpool - Missed out
Wolves - Emmanuel Dennis (£14M)
Aston Villa - Skip
Sunderland - Skip
Arsenal - Skip
Southend Utd - Nathan Wood (£560k)
Nottingham Forest - £547.7M
Everton - £555M
Manchester Utd - £755.4M

@The Taurean

Skip.

 

[Damien]

DRAFT (MANSFIELD TOWN)

# of players available: 26 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules

1. Refer to "Draft Order"
2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
4. Inform the next person in draft order
5. Cash only. No P/E
   • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
   • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
   • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
   • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
7. Must comply with FFP
8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Mansfield Town

Draft Order

Spoiler: Draft Order

Preston North End - Luke Shaw (£11M)
Gillingham - Wilfried Zaha (£12.76M)
Charlton Athletic - Steven Bergwijn (£18.2M)
Leeds United - Missed out
Kidderminster Harriers - Nicolas Raskin (£520k)
Leyton Orient - Arkadiusz Milik (£18.2M)
Bury - Kurt Zouma (£15M)
West Ham United - Cody Gakpo (£4.2M)
Tottenham - Missed out
Ipswich Town - Abdou Diallo (£18M)
Blackburn Rovers - Roger Ibanez (£3.3M)
Barnsley - £275.9M (Transfer Banned, Inelligible for draft)
MK Dons - Hans Hateboer (£13.5M)
Southampton - Missed out
Bristol City - Kyle Walker-Peters (£3M)
Norwich City - Missed out
Cardiff City - £316.4M (Transfer Banned, Ineligible for draft)
Hereford - Junior Firpo (£12M)
Middlesbrough - Conor Coady (£11.7M)
Bournemouth - Ivan Rakitic (£10.95M)
Fulham - Missed out
Chelsea - Luca Waldschmidt (£12M)
Newcastle Utd - Albert Lokonga (£4.2M)
Manchester City - Skip
Darlington - Robin Koch (£12M)
Liverpool - Missed out
Wolves - Emmanuel Dennis (£14M)
Aston Villa - Skip
Sunderland - Skip
Arsenal - Skip
Southend Utd - Nathan Wood (£560k)
Nottingham Forest - Missed out
Everton - Anderson Niangbo (£4M)
Manchester Utd - £755.4M

@Damien has 12 hours to pick then draft is over.

 

[Damien]

DRAFT (MANSFIELD TOWN)

# of players available: 26 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules

1. Refer to "Draft Order"
2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
4. Inform the next person in draft order
5. Cash only. No P/E
   • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
   • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
   • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
   • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
7. Must comply with FFP
8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Mansfield Town

Draft Order

Spoiler: Draft Order

Preston North End - Luke Shaw (£11M)
Gillingham - Wilfried Zaha (£12.76M)
Charlton Athletic - Steven Bergwijn (£18.2M)
Leeds United - Missed out
Kidderminster Harriers - Nicolas Raskin (£520k)
Leyton Orient - Arkadiusz Milik (£18.2M)
Bury - Kurt Zouma (£15M)
West Ham United - Cody Gakpo (£4.2M)
Tottenham - Missed out
Ipswich Town - Abdou Diallo (£18M)
Blackburn Rovers - Roger Ibanez (£3.3M)
Barnsley - £275.9M (Transfer Banned, Inelligible for draft)
MK Dons - Hans Hateboer (£13.5M)
Southampton - Missed out
Bristol City - Kyle Walker-Peters (£3M)
Norwich City - Missed out
Cardiff City - £316.4M (Transfer Banned, Ineligible for draft)
Hereford - Junior Firpo (£12M)
Middlesbrough - Conor Coady (£11.7M)
Bournemouth - Ivan Rakitic (£10.95M)
Fulham - Missed out
Chelsea - Luca Waldschmidt (£12M)
Newcastle Utd - Albert Lokonga (£4.2M)
Manchester City - Skip
Darlington - Robin Koch (£12M)
Liverpool - Missed out
Wolves - Emmanuel Dennis (£14M)
Aston Villa - Skip
Sunderland - Skip
Arsenal - Skip
Southend Utd - Nathan Wood (£560k)
Nottingham Forest - Missed out
Everton - Anderson Niangbo (£4M)
Manchester Utd - Skip

Draft over.

 

[Damien]

Manchester United have now officially won their 32nd trophy, beating Newcastle United 3:0 in the Super Cup with a mixed strength side.

Oblak (95)

Trent (93) Van Dijk (96) Ramos (95) Gaya (91)↓
Goretzka (92)↓ Kroos (95)
Mbappe (95) -- Brandt (91)↓ -- Sterling (94)
Griezmann (94)​

Subs: Elvedi (90), Boateng (91), Alaba (93)↑, Kovacic (91), Eriksen (93)↑, Sancho (92)↑, Pulisic (91)
Did not travel: Zakaria (91), Christensen (90), Vinicius Jr (89), Under (89 - fortheloveofgodsomeoneloanhimplease)

Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on

Next three games:
MD01: Sunderland (H)
CCGAG1: AC Milan (H)
MD02: Nottingham Forest (A)

Manchester United v Newcastle United fixtures this season

Game	Utd Poss	Newcastle Poss	Utd Shots (SoT)	Newcastle Shots (SoT)	Utd Goals	Newcastle Goals	Utd SoT Conv.	Newcastle SoT Conv.
12th September: Utd v Newcastle United (Super Cup)​	57%​	43%​	16 (6)​	7 (3)​	3​	0​	50%​	0%​
Combined​	57%​	43%​	16 (6)​	7 (3)​	3​	0​	50%​	0%​

Spoiler: major honours won

 

[P-Nut]

The fact that team is mixed strength is a joke

 

[BenitoSTARR]

The fact that team is mixed strength is a joke

91+ weakened side

 

[Ravelation]

Everybody: ...
Damien: "My 11 worth more than your clubs is mixed strength"

 

[BenitoSTARR]

Everybody: ...
Damien: "My 11 worth more than your clubs is mixed strength"

I laughed at first but then worked it out...

Oblak £47.6m
Trent £39.6m
VVD £53m
Ramos £11.7m
Gaya £20m
Goretzka £28m
Kroos £40.2m
Mbappe £76m
Brandt £24m
Sterling £44m
Griezmann £36.4m

Total Value £420.5m

Cardiff City entire squad £326.6m

Now I’m sad...

 

[Damien]

I laughed at first but then worked it out...

Oblak £47.6m
Trent £39.6m
VVD £53m
Ramos £11.7m
Gaya £20m
Goretzka £28m
Kroos £40.2m
Mbappe £76m
Brandt £24m
Sterling £44m
Griezmann £36.4m

Total Value £420.5m

Cardiff City entire squad £326.6m

Now I’m sad...

See! It'd only be 8th on the squad value list.

 

[spontaneus1]

@Damien when is my transfer ban up?

 

[Damien]

@Damien when is my transfer ban up?

1st October. I claim full responsibility over it as I should have checked before accepting the bid

 

[BenitoSTARR]

1st October. I claim full responsibility over it as I should have checked before accepting the bid

@Damien I can’t figure out what date turn 4 is? Any idea when mines up too?

 

[Damien]

@Damien I can’t figure out what date turn 4 is? Any idea when mines up too?

After the game on the 20th September.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

After the game on the 20th September.

Cheers so 7 days to go!

 

[BenitoSTARR]

QPR

• FFP = 58
• Bid accepted = 5 (Castillejo, Origi, Schoff, Pedraza, Ihatteran), 1 P/E
• Current number of players = 55
• 55+5-1 = 59 > 58

Ban QPR please

@Damien Wolves should be transfer banned.

Nothing personal at all and @Wino1 sorry for brining it up but I also got banned for having an accepted bid over FFP which was my first ban while at QPR as they are considered a part of FFP.

Rules are rules even though I sympathise massively on this one. For what it’s worth I’d be more than happy for this rule to not apply in future but as things stand it has been broken.

 

[Damien]

2:0 victory against Sunderland. Decent start to the season, playing another mixed strength () side.

Oblak (95)

Boateng (91)↓ Van Dijk (96) Ramos (95) Alaba (93)
Goretzka (92)↓ Kroos (95)
Mbappe (95) -- Pulisic (91)↓ -- Sterling (94)
Griezmann (94)​

Subs: Elvedi (90), Trent (93)↑, Gaya (91), Kovacic (91), Eriksen (93)↑, Brandt (91), Sancho (92)↑
Did not travel: Zakaria (91), Christensen (90), Vinicius Jr (89), Under (89 - fortheloveofgodsomeoneloanhimplease)

Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on

Next three games:
CCGAG1: AC Milan (H)
MD02: Nottingham Forest (A)
MD03: Bournemouth (A)

Manchester United v Sunderland fixtures this season

Game	Utd Poss	Sunderland Poss	Utd Shots (SoT)	Sunderland Shots (SoT)	Utd Goals	Sunderland Goals	Utd SoT Conv.	Sunderland SoT Conv.
13th September: Utd v Newcastle United​	57%​	43%​	14 (7)​	11 (4)​	2​	0​	28.6%​	0%​
Combined​	57%​	43%​	14 (7)​	11 (4)​	2​	0​	28.6%​	0%​

 

[Ravelation]

In the case of wolves transfer ban, I'd be in favour of him not getting a ban because he had sent a message declaring to cancel the deal for which he forgot.

BUT, as southend got banned because of a matter of minutes, rules are rules.
Ban should be upheld.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

In the case of wolves transfer ban, I'd be in favour of him not getting a ban because he had sent a message declaring to cancel the deal for which he forgot.

BUT, as southend got banned because of a matter of minutes, rules are rules.
Ban should be upheld.

It’s a harsh one but I’ve been punished for having an accepted bid despite cancelling and also having another player accepted and outgoing before.

I think it’s only consistent to ban otherwise why make an exception for one person and not everyone else? The rule is either existing or not.

Nothing against Wolves on this but I don’t see how it would be fair to not punish them the same as everyone else who has fallen foul of the rule.

 

[christy87]

It’s a harsh one but I’ve been punished for having an accepted bid despite cancelling and also having another player accepted and outgoing before.

I think it’s only consistent to ban otherwise why make an exception for one person and not everyone else? The rule is either existing or not.

Nothing against Wolves on this but I don’t see how it would be fair to not punish them the same as everyone else who has fallen foul of the rule.

A bans a ban for fairness in the league, wouldn't want to discriminate against liked and non liked

 

[Damien]

A bans a ban for fairness in the league, wouldn't want to discriminate against liked and non liked

It isn't a case of that, otherwise greeny and many others wouldn't have been banned in the first place. I think it just exposes the fundamental problem of the FFP law - we introduced it mainly to help talent be spread around more and to stop people from bidding on new players in the database when they're at squad cap, and up to this point all of the bans have been related to that in some way.

In Wino's case, he bid on Perisic a week or so ago prior to the draft, and he was in line with FFP. He was then told by Gythio that the price bid wasn't enough, Wino said "fair enough, I'm not bidding more than that" and left it at that. Gythio didn't reject the submitted bid and Wino didn't withdraw it, but for all intense and purposes, Wino was 100% convinced that the deal was over so moved on with the draft. Around the time, Benito "verbally agreed" a deal with Gythio for max cash value and vocalised it, further reinforcing in Wino's mind that the deal was dead.

Out of Wino's control, Gythio accepted Wino's bid after Wino was at the cap. As soon as he noticed that Gythio accepted the bid without Wino's consent, Wino mentioned it in the chat and cancelled the deal. If Wino hadn't mentioned the deal, we wouldn't have been aware he was hitting/over the cap. He could have just cancelled the deal and we would be none the wiser.

My reluctance to instaban is solely on the basis that this could open a whole new can of worms in that (and I'm not saying Gythio did this) people could encourage cash bids on their players, wait up to two weeks for one of the bidders to be at their cap and accept the bid that the bidder forgot about in the first place resulting in a transfer ban for that team, and that is why I wanted there to be some discussion before handing it out.

 

[The Taurean]

It isn't a case of that, otherwise greeny and many others wouldn't have been banned in the first place. I think it just exposes the fundamental problem of the FFP law - we introduced it mainly to help talent be spread around more and to stop people from bidding on new players in the database when they're at squad cap, and up to this point all of the bans have been related to that in some way.

In Wino's case, he bid on Perisic a week or so ago prior to the draft, and he was in line with FFP. He was then told by Gythio that the price bid wasn't enough, Wino said "fair enough, I'm not bidding more than that" and left it at that. Gythio didn't reject the submitted bid and Wino didn't withdraw it, but for all intense and purposes, Wino was 100% convinced that the deal was over so moved on with the draft. Around the time, Benito "verbally agreed" a deal with Gythio for max cash value and vocalised it, further reinforcing in Wino's mind that the deal was dead.

Out of Wino's control, Gythio accepted Wino's bid after Wino was at the cap. As soon as he noticed that Gythio accepted the bid without Wino's consent, Wino mentioned it in the chat and cancelled the deal. If Wino hadn't mentioned the deal, we wouldn't have been aware he was hitting/over the cap. He could have just cancelled the deal and we would be none the wiser.

My reluctance to instaban is solely on the basis that this could open a whole new can of worms in that (and I'm not saying Gythio did this) people could encourage cash bids on their players, wait up to two weeks for one of the bidders to be at their cap and accept the bid that the bidder forgot about in the first place resulting in a transfer ban for that team, and that is why I wanted there to be some discussion before handing it out.

Would be okay with applying common sense in this instance as bid in question was not in midst of bidding war.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

Would be okay with applying common sense in this instance as bid in question was not in midst of bidding war.

It did affect my negotiations so I don’t think you could claim it had no impact.

I personally think season long bans are crazy having just served one for a game bug but I served it. Surely a month ban would suffice in this circumstance?

What was stopping Wino removing the bid when he was rejected for negotiation?

We’re all responsible for our bids.

 

[The Taurean]

It did affect my negotiations so I don’t think you could claim it had no impact.

I personally think season long bans are crazy having just served one for a game bug but I served it. Surely a month ban would suffice in this circumstance?

What was stopping Wino removing the bid when he was rejected for negotiation?

We’re all responsible for our bids.

As i am not aware of your negotiations, how did it effect it? Price seemed like FV.

The second part of your post is true. We are in the end responsible for our bids.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

As i am not aware of your negotiations, how did it effect it? Price seemed like FV.

The second part of your post is true. We are in the end responsible for our bids.

Because without an intervening bid Perisic to Cardiff was the option for max cash. The existence of Wino’s bid affected that deal.

There was competiton for the player that would not have existed without him.

 

[Damien]

Not the best start to the European season but a win is a win - 2:0 victory against AC Milan. Next up: one of my many bogey teams.

Oblak (95)

Elvedi (90)↓ Van Dijk (96) Zakaria (91) Alaba (93)
Kovacic (91)↓ Eriksen (93)
Vinicius Jr (89)↓ -- Pulisic (91) -- Sterling (94)
Griezmann (94)​

Subs: Christensen (90), Trent (93)↑, Gaya (91), Goretzka (92), Kroos (95)↑, Sancho (92), Mbappe (95)↑
Did not travel: Ramos (95), Boateng (91), Brandt (91), Under (89 - fortheloveofgodsomeoneloanhimplease)

Key:
= Goal
= Assist
= MOTM
↓ = Subbed off
↑ = Subbed on

Next three games:
MD02: Nottingham Forest (A)
MD03: Bournemouth (A)
CCGAG2: Real Sociedad (A)

Manchester United v AC Milan fixtures this season

Game	Utd Poss	AC Milan Poss	Utd Shots (SoT)	AC Milan Shots (SoT)	Utd Goals	AC Milan Goals	Utd SoT Conv.	AC Milan SoT Conv.
14th September: Utd v AC Milan​	69%​	31%​	23 (9)​	7 (0)​	2​	0​	22.2%​	0%​
Combined​	69%​	31%​	23 (9)​	7 (0)​	2​	0​	22.2%​	0%​

 

[Ravelation]

The fact that common sense wasnt applied with Southend when they had a mere matter of minutes between accepting and cancelling an offer suggest the ban should be upheld.
I think if anything it should just be reduced to a month, and not a full season, and that should be the precedent going forwards.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

The fact that common sense wasnt applied with Southend when they had a mere matter of minutes between accepting and cancelling an offer suggest the ban should be upheld.
I think if anything it should just be reduced to a month, and not a full season, and that should be the precedent going forwards.

Nor was it applied when SM bugged out on my second ban.

Having just served a season long ban for that I’m not sure how it’s fair to discriminate in this case to be honest.

 

[Ravelation]

Nor was it applied when SM bugged out on my second ban.

Having just served a season long ban for that I’m not sure how it’s fair to discriminate in this case to be honest.

Bugged out, how do you mean?