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- Thread starter Damien
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DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)
# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)
Rules
This is based on squad value as of now.
Middlesbrough picks Oleksandr Zinchenko
@Big-Red
# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)
Rules
- Refer to "Draft Order"
- 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
- Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
- Inform the next person in draft order
- Cash only. No P/E
- Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
- Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
- Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
- Squad value >400m: 2x FV
- You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
- Must comply with FFP
- After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
- After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
This is based on squad value as of now.
- Mansfield Town - Missed out
- Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
- Bury - Missed out
- Birmingham City - Missed out
- West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
- Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Bristol City - Skip
- Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
- Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Reading - Missed out
- Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
- Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Ipswich Town - Pass
- Norwich City - Axel Tuanzebe - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Southend United - Federico Valverde - £7,500,000 (1.5x FV)
- Southampton - Gaston Pereiro - £12,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Middlesbrough - Oleksandr Zinchenko - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Tottenham Hotspur - £368.1M
- Fulham - £391.5M
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - £395.6M
- Chelsea - £420.8M
- Sunderland - £426.4M
- Aston Villa - £437.7M
- Liverpool - £445.5M
- Newcastle United - £445.9M
- Darlington - £483.6M
- Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
- Manchester City - £543.8M
- Arsenal - £600.2M
- Everton - £638.3M
- Manchester United - £762.9M
Middlesbrough picks Oleksandr Zinchenko
@Big-Red
DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)
# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)
Rules
This is based on squad value as of now.
@infamous7
# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)
Rules
- Refer to "Draft Order"
- 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
- Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
- Inform the next person in draft order
- Cash only. No P/E
- Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
- Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
- Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
- Squad value >400m: 2x FV
- You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
- Must comply with FFP
- After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
- After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
This is based on squad value as of now.
- Mansfield Town - Missed out
- Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
- Bury - Missed out
- Birmingham City - Missed out
- West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
- Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Bristol City - Skip
- Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
- Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Reading - Missed out
- Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
- Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Ipswich Town - Pass
- Norwich City - Axel Tuanzebe - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Southend United - Federico Valverde - £7,500,000 (1.5x FV)
- Southampton - Gaston Pereiro - £12,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Middlesbrough - Oleksandr Zinchenko - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Tottenham Hotspur - Skip
- Fulham - £391.5M
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - £395.6M
- Chelsea - £420.8M
- Sunderland - £426.4M
- Aston Villa - £437.7M
- Liverpool - £445.5M
- Newcastle United - £445.9M
- Darlington - £483.6M
- Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
- Manchester City - £543.8M
- Arsenal - £600.2M
- Everton - £638.3M
- Manchester United - £762.9M
@infamous7
DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)
# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)
Rules
This is based on squad value as of now.
Fulham picked Giorgi CHAKVETADZE.
@Wino1
# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)
Rules
- Refer to "Draft Order"
- 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
- Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
- Inform the next person in draft order
- Cash only. No P/E
- Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
- Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
- Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
- Squad value >400m: 2x FV
- You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
- Must comply with FFP
- After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
- After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
This is based on squad value as of now.
- Mansfield Town - Missed out
- Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
- Bury - Missed out
- Birmingham City - Missed out
- West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
- Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Bristol City - Skip
- Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
- Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Reading - Missed out
- Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
- Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Ipswich Town - Pass
- Norwich City - Axel Tuanzebe - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Southend United - Federico Valverde - £7,500,000 (1.5x FV)
- Southampton - Gaston Pereiro - £12,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Middlesbrough - Oleksandr Zinchenko - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Tottenham Hotspur - Skip
- Fulham - Giorgi Chakvetadze - £2,100,000 (1.5x FV)
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - £395.6M
- Chelsea - £420.8M
- Sunderland - £426.4M
- Aston Villa - £437.7M
- Liverpool - £445.5M
- Newcastle United - £445.9M
- Darlington - £483.6M
- Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
- Manchester City - £543.8M
- Arsenal - £600.2M
- Everton - £638.3M
- Manchester United - £762.9M
Fulham picked Giorgi CHAKVETADZE.
@Wino1
With existing loan quota, most would have been taken up by Turn 2 anyway, so there is no point to extend it to Turn 4 (more work for me as well)
To make a difference, reduce loan quota even further (tbf, only complain so far is from @Cassady
Iam not complaining ... am I ? feck knows .
Ok.... one question. How the feck do I get my players out on loan ? Please....... dont say .... put your players out on the list at one minute past midnight... nah .
Its not a fair system.
What team are you GS ? Big team with big revenue with players out on loan ?
Greeny is Southend United. Started from the bottom similar to you and worked his way up - he was only four places away from you in the draft and has a smaller stadium than you.
The loan system is ridiculous in that it only rewards those who are on at 12:01 or whatever on certain days and we have tried to make things fairer. I do think more could be done like extending it to Turn 4 before becoming a free for all but would be more work for Greeny.
I end up having to loan 88 rated players out to unmanaged sides. Would love to loan them to managed teams to free up spaces for you and other teams to loan but there just isn't enough interest in 88 rated players for some reason.
You can do all the changes you want but if your aren’t on at 12.01 as damo said your fecked
Well thats a load of bollocks .
So....
What team are you then ?
What team are you then ?
Chelsea 1 player on loan and that’s to a managed team
Fair enough but theres the problem. You loan out 88 rated players when Plymouth cant get a 78 rated out. Look at the revenues. Surely you can get my point at least. Its a case of the big fish get bigger a bit like in life. I hope in real life you dont moan about the current global system and how unfair it is to the non elite .
I want to loan out to managed clubs so you can loan out the 78 rated player, but it is a fact that there'd only be someone else with plenty of loans loaning out instead as you can't be around at 12:01. Loaning out 88 rated players to managed clubs benefit the smaller club too in that they don't have to fork out millions and only need to pay half the wages.
I'm not moaning anyway - though I am moaning about loaning Shaw out, RS sending him back and him getting a playing concern despite playing the games needed while at Hereford.
- At end of each season, loan list your players (75 rated and above)
- When AI places loan bids to your players, do not accept first
- At Day 1 when new season starts (i.e. when you receive Chairman's message), accept those accumulated loan bids. With current loan cap, you should have chance to loan out few players as long as you are online on that same day (doesn't have to be 12:01pm or something)
This is the way to go.
I get 80% of my loan-outs done on first day. Even I find it hard to loan out more players when it comes to free-for-all
Generally speaking, loaning out players doesn't save you much wages. In my case, it is only 70K+ per turn, or about 2.7M per season. The more important purpose of loaning out players is to avoid player's concern due to lack of games
Generally speaking, loaning out players doesn't save you much wages. In my case, it is only 70K+ per turn, or about 2.7M per season. The more important purpose of loaning out players is to avoid player's concern due to lack of games
I think I know how it works you whopper. Just seen you have 8 out on loan Damo and the lowest rated is 86. How the feck can you justify that lad ? Like Ive just said before about the global system suiting the elite and the big fishes . You are just mirroring and reflecting it on here .
4 of those are to managed clubs
Ok but thats 2.7 more than Plymouth. I do usually get my players out on the first day or sometimes as close to it as possible . I also know how the game works mate . Look at Plymouths squad and you will see most of my players have a high morale and bright green arrows so its not really about keeping their morale high and to stop them getting concerns . If Plymouth had ' only ' 2.7 million I wouldnt have to get rid of two players to get Mamanna.
feckin ell its like talking to a plant .
4 of them are to managed clubs. I can quit SM if you truly believe I'm like that if you want but @harshad has found my loans useful. He can't afford to spend the £10M+ needed on young 88 rated or higher players but can afford half the wages for a season loan, so I have loaned him players then if it comes to the point where I sell one of them, he gets first dibs at FACE VALUE. I'm not arsed about the money.
Look at Gabriel Mercado. I loaned him to Bristol City, he got up to 89 rated and had done very well at Sevilla. He got a loan concern and I told harshad that if he wanted Mercado at an affordable value to keep him on loan until the end of the season, he'd then get to concern level 2 and harshad only needed to fork out £3.7M for him instead of £5.9M from me at concern level 0, or £7M+ from other clubs. He's going to maintain his rating for a while.
Likewise I've been good to @gaz1185's Kidderminster Harriers, loaning them Mbappe from when he was either 83 or 86 rated all the way up until he was 91 (Mbappe helped hugely in promoting Kiddy from Division 5 to Division 2). Then, when I had Mbappe back I gave him what is his current highest rated player permanently and a bunch of cash for someone who was a Newcastle reject and helped out again with loans further by loaning him Elvedi who is versatile.
I helped out another small club in @RedSky's Hereford by loaning them players they couldn't afford on a permanent basis like Gaya (now worth £16M and on wages of £65k - unaffordable for him), then Christensen this season (now worth £18M and on wages of £65k) and as a result he's going to get Matip on a permanent basis next season for face value. And again, I'm letting Matip pick up a level 2 concern to make the player more affordable - so instead of costing £14M he'll end up costing around £11M.
Some clubs rely massively on these 88 rated players. I'm not doing it to purely benefit me. End of the day they all got something out of it and usually decent players on a permanent basis.
You should be a politician mate .
Then unloan the other four.
feckin ell you and GS are like Bill and Ben the Flowerpot Men.
Anyway. . feck it... night you weirdos.
And .. just realised I play you next Damo.
* Keegans Rant *
* Keegans Rant *
Ya might as well as be talking to the wall damo and gs
IMO the teams that are awarded the best are the ones that have scouted the best and have the best up and comers or who buy and sell risers... IE Southend and Darlington
I've barely made bug transfers and have lived of the previous managers ventures
Hopefully that changes in the next 18 months as the players I've bought develop into something good
I've barely made bug transfers and have lived of the previous managers ventures
Hopefully that changes in the next 18 months as the players I've bought develop into something good
News:
New boy Lafont joined Fiorentina earlier in the Summer and Malcom pretty much done and dusted now to Roma.
Roberto Gagliardini might be on his way out of Inter Milan as they're overloaded in midfield and need money for a new winger.
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Hereford real life transfers (Summer 2018)
Done deals
Rumours
New boy Lafont joined Fiorentina earlier in the Summer and Malcom pretty much done and dusted now to Roma.
Roberto Gagliardini might be on his way out of Inter Milan as they're overloaded in midfield and need money for a new winger.
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Hereford real life transfers (Summer 2018)
Done deals
- Yann Karamoh (19/85): Caen => Inter Milan
- Filho Paulinho (17/82): Vasco de Gama => Bayer Leverkusen
- Nordi Mukiele (20/85): Montpellier => RB Leipzig
- Uros Racic (20/82): Crvena Zvezda => Valencia
- Christian Koffi (17/70): Monaco => Fiorentina
- David Hancko (20/79): MSK Zilina => Fiorentina
- Andriy Lunin (19/83): Zorya => Real Madrid
- William Bianda (18/76): Lens => Roma
- Fredrik Jensen (20/82): Twente => Augsburg
- Vladimir Screciu (18/80): CS Universitatea Craiova => Genk
- Marco Varnier (20/80): AS Cittadella => Atalanta
- Sofiane Diop (18/70): Rennes => Monaco
- Atakan Akkaynak (19/73): Leverkusen => Willem II
- Jonathan Panzo (17/70): Chelsea => Monaco
- Ferdi Kadioglu (18/77) NEC Nijmegen => Fenerbahce
- Saul Salcedo (20/82) Olimpia Asunción => Huracán
- Alban Lafont (19/87) Toulouse => Fiorentina
- Filipe Malcom (21/89) Bordeaux => Roma
- Emil Audero (21/82) Juventus => Sampdoria (LOAN)
Rumours
- Gelson Martins (23/90) to Atletico Madrid
- Joris Gnagnon (21/88) to Lyon
- Tanguy N'Dombele (21/88) to Manchester City, Tottenham, Chelsea, Inter, PSG
- Matias Vargas (21/85) to Fiorentina, Flamengo, Fenerbahce
- Ismael Bennacer (20/83) to Nice, Galatasaray
- Kelvin Amian (20/85) to Napoli
- Thomas Strakosha (23/89) to Liverpool
- Roberto Gagliardini (24/90) to ???
- Marcelo Brozović (25/90) to Atletico Madrid, Manchester Utd
Been reading this loan chat. Where I agree is that it is the game engine that is causing this issue not the rules created. I think any new set of rules will always be bad for someone. Ps thanks to @green_smiley and @Damien for administrating additional rules in the first place.
I also had a long running loan team with Arsenal but I now have built Barnsley from having Del Piero as my best player when he was 40, now I rarely need a loan player.
In terms of my handful of players out on loan I have not managed to do a loan from day 1 and I live from week to week and have had to sell Blind to get Andre Silva. My team is also aging badly so will soon lose my place in Div 1 so will likely need to sell next season.
So...I am happy to recall all my loans but only for Plymouth to use, but I cannot guarantee that this would happen due to others not on here.
Aye. Damien's been more than fair regarding the loans and structuring the deals.
DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)
# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)
Rules
This is based on squad value as of now.
Wolverhampton Wanderers picked Jeison Murillo
@christy87 you're up.
# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)
Rules
- Refer to "Draft Order"
- 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
- Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
- Inform the next person in draft order
- Cash only. No P/E
- Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
- Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
- Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
- Squad value >400m: 2x FV
- You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
- Must comply with FFP
- After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
- After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
This is based on squad value as of now.
- Mansfield Town - Missed out
- Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
- Bury - Missed out
- Birmingham City - Missed out
- West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
- Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Bristol City - Skip
- Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
- Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Reading - Missed out
- Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
- Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Ipswich Town - Pass
- Norwich City - Axel Tuanzebe - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Southend United - Federico Valverde - £7,500,000 (1.5x FV)
- Southampton - Gaston Pereiro - £12,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Middlesbrough - Oleksandr Zinchenko - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Tottenham Hotspur - Skip
- Fulham - Giorgi Chakvetadze - £2,100,000 (1.5x FV)
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - Jeison Murillo - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Chelsea - £420.8M
- Sunderland - £426.4M
- Aston Villa - £437.7M
- Liverpool - £445.5M
- Newcastle United - £445.9M
- Darlington - £483.6M - Skip
- Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
- Manchester City - £543.8M
- Arsenal - £600.2M
- Everton - £638.3M
- Manchester United - £762.9M
Wolverhampton Wanderers picked Jeison Murillo
@christy87 you're up.
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It has been good speaking about it. Life has taught me sometimes its just a realease to vent your feelings and its not about getting the desired results but its good to say how you feel. Ok. I'll be ready to put my players out on loan at the stroke of midnight on the day of the new season. If I still dont get any out youse best hide.
It has been good speaking about it. Life has taught me sometimes its just a realease to vent your feelings and its not about getting the desired results but its good to say how you feel. Ok. I'll be ready to put my players out on loan at the stroke of midnight on the day of the new season. If I still dont get any out youse best hide.
I do not think day 1 of a season is the same. In the UK the loans for within season happen midday. The first day of the season this happens at 6am...someone confirm that for me.
How come Iam getting loads of loan offers in ?
People have probably recalled some loaned out players.
Probably @Dom Gill
It has been good speaking about it. Life has taught me sometimes its just a realease to vent your feelings and its not about getting the desired results but its good to say how you feel. Ok. I'll be ready to put my players out on loan at the stroke of midnight on the day of the new season. If I still dont get any out youse best hide.
First day of new season starts when you receive "Chairman News", which has been about 1-2am UK time these past few seasons, I think
If you just want to loan out a few players, there is no need to go to that extreme. With current loan cap in-place, I had a few of my loan bids taken only in Day 2
Mouassa
DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)
# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)
Rules
This is based on squad value as of now.
@2mufc0
# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)
Rules
- Refer to "Draft Order"
- 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
- Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
- Inform the next person in draft order
- Cash only. No P/E
- Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
- Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
- Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
- Squad value >400m: 2x FV
- You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
- Must comply with FFP
- After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
- After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
This is based on squad value as of now.
- Mansfield Town - Missed out
- Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
- Bury - Missed out
- Birmingham City - Missed out
- West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
- Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Bristol City - Skip
- Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
- Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Reading - Missed out
- Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
- Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Ipswich Town - Pass
- Norwich City - Axel Tuanzebe - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Southend United - Federico Valverde - £7,500,000 (1.5x FV)
- Southampton - Gaston Pereiro - £12,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Middlesbrough - Oleksandr Zinchenko - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Tottenham Hotspur - Skip
- Fulham - Giorgi Chakvetadze - £2,100,000 (1.5x FV)
- Wolverhampton Wanderers - Jeison Murillo - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
- Chelsea - Faitout Maouassa - £7,984,000 (2x FV)
- Sunderland - £426.4M
- Aston Villa - £437.7M
- Liverpool - £445.5M
- Newcastle United - £445.9M
- Darlington - £483.6M - Skip
- Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
- Manchester City - £543.8M
- Arsenal - £600.2M
- Everton - £638.3M
- Manchester United - £762.9M
@2mufc0
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