Ideally, you shouldn't. You stand to lose the most from this round, as I see it. Pray others block each other. Imagine losing Zanetti/Puskas or fecking Peruzzi/Stankovic.
The Second RedCafe Sheep Draft
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Ideally, you shouldn't. You stand to lose the most from this round, as I see it. Pray others block each other. Imagine losing Zanetti/Puskas or fecking Peruzzi/Stankovic.
@Skizzo when's the deadline? Is it first come first serve, or do you look at everything once everyone has sent in their transfers?
I'm sure a few have an eye on Baggio and Baresi.
Can we have possible trade discussions here in this thread?
I know, that's why I hate this round. Even the worst player I can offer for trade will be better than 75% of all players picked....and the balance 25% will be protected or get blocked.
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No results until everyone sends in a pick. First come, first serve seemed unfair since time zones screw some people.
There shouldn't need to be a deadline since everyone able to be picked is already listed......I hope.
I was kidding mate. And yes, we all have a lot to lose this time out. I love it.
Has any of you submitted your choices?
I just have.
fwiw, I've sent mine too.
God save me!
God save me!
Me too, I was too motivated and Hengry to wait.
Can you block the same player each round, or do you have to alternate?
- Are you protecting your player for the round or just for the stage (the round in your terminology was the big criteria event with three stages of player picking)?
- A manager can lost only one player through the round? So, if he loses someone in the first stage, he is safe for the other two?
- A manager can ideally get 3 new players in? If he is successful in every stage and is targeting different managers. Or is there an incoming limit also?
I imagine it's capped at 1 player added to each manager otherwise it'll mess up everyone's squad size.
It won't, the squad size stays the same, you give away one of your players for every incoming one (hence the trading part)
True, but as I understand it, it's a matter of ONE player. Once you've got your man, that's it - you don't get to go for another one.
Which goes to your other point too - if you lose a player, that's it. You're safe for any remaining stages.
Ah true. Although I still imagine it'll be one player coming in, otherwise this round is ridiculously powerful and pretty much could decide the draft.
Probably. But I had to ask
@Skizzo
To add to harms query below...
Does this work both ways? Say, I choose a player successfully in round 1, does it count has 'having lost a player'?
To add to harms query below...
Does this work both ways? Say, I choose a player successfully in round 1, does it count has 'having lost a player'?
Biggest question for me is whether managers have to alternate their blocks.
If they don't then certain managers have pretty much no risk of losing their star player - they just block their one player for the whole round. Whereas people like Cutch, Edgar, NM etc are pretty much destined to lose someone good, as they have two/three they would want to block.
If they don't then certain managers have pretty much no risk of losing their star player - they just block their one player for the whole round. Whereas people like Cutch, Edgar, NM etc are pretty much destined to lose someone good, as they have two/three they would want to block.
Managers pick one player to block each stage. You can choose to keep blocking the same player, or risk blocking another. Managers choose. You won't know if you made a successful block or not.
Once you have successfully stolen a player, you're done for the round. You can't steal any more.
Once you have lost a player, you're done for the round. You can't lose more than one.
The most player changes for one team is two. One new player you have stolen (and a player swapped to the other team) and one player you have been given (because someone stole your player)
Once you have successfully stolen a player, you're done for the round. You can't steal any more.
Once you have lost a player, you're done for the round. You can't lose more than one.
The most player changes for one team is two. One new player you have stolen (and a player swapped to the other team) and one player you have been given (because someone stole your player)
That point is arguably less than 100% clear.
My understanding, however, is that you do not have to change which player you protect from one stage to the next. In other words, if you have one, definite star man, you can indeed safeguard him throughout.
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Theon's point above is what makes me dislike this round. I don't mind surprise rounds, as long as they affect everyone equally.
Theon's point above is what makes me dislike this round. I don't mind surprise rounds, as long as they affect everyone equally.
- This round by it's design works against those who have drafted well. Managers who have drafted well, have few betterment picks. Most will be blocked or will have tough competition. Minimal chance to improve.
- Those who have not gambled well and have gotten safe 2nd string players till now benefit hugely and have a lots of betterment picks.
Skizzo you depraved bastard. You seemed like such a nice fella when I was your AM!
Can we announce who we are blocking at least?
It's a brilliantly perverse round. And it's been designed as well as it could be without varying from the concept. But the round does reward mediocrity rather than the typical meritocracy.
The part which I don't think makes great sense is that some managers now are going to have pretty much zero attempts on their players due to the permanent block rule, as they have one great player (who they will block) and thus they're out the game.
I'm going to use Annah as an example because NM isn't interested in Garrincha - but as an example, Annah will block Garrincha and no one will bother trying to attack that, as it's pointless. Whereas for example with Edgar, people will see Desailly, Scholes, Baresi and Baggio and know that he can only block one of those players - thus there is a huge chance of nicking someone there.
Doesn't seem logical that some managers aren't going to struggle here at all, particularly as its the ones who drafted well who lose out.
Why? If people choose your blocked player, the move doesn't happen right? So you keep the player you want.
Keep them guessing surely?
No. I see the reasoning...If people know player A is blocked, they will now all pile on Player B or C.
But everything remains in the dark until final results.
Managers will lose players this round, and no one will know until the dust is settled. Apart from the greedy feck sitting there smiling at you knowing he stole your player.
So with no managers going for annah. ..and multiple going for EAPs players. ..they also run a much higher chance of blocking each other. Not knowing who else tried to choose one.
Despise this round haha.. 
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.Nah, you want the opposite.
NM for instance has Platini and Puskas who he wants to keep - Platini mainly of course.
So if he tells everyone that he has blocked Platini, then people know Platini is a pointless pick, thus try and get Puskas. If two or more people go for Puskas then Puskas gets blocked as well.
So by having let everyone know that he has blocked Platini, NM can have a good chance of blocking Puskas as well.
Tevezbola was a random event that stole some people's best players, and other people's worst player. Completely random and potentially unfair to some through no control of their own.
This is also potentially unfair. ..But the managers are in control.
This is also potentially unfair. ..But the managers are in control.
How many yet to turn in @Skizzo?
Ah the bluff.
Meh, as a neutral, I'd prefer the surprise
Aye, can imagine.Not a bluff by the way - Platini was always the one to block, as good as Puskas was. It's a wasted pick going for Platini - though I imagine a few will try it!
Or on the flip side...You block Platini...or do you? no one knows that because they assume you would, but you dont. No one attempts it and they all try Puskas, blocking each other. They don't know why...just says blocked. Is that because you blocked Puskas? Or because someone else tried it too. Who knows? They might all try again...they might all give Platini a shot now...they get the block message again...shit...blocking each other? Which player was manager blocked? Only one chance left...panic sets in...try someone else? But who has been successful and no longer an option?
Don't be so negative
Manager Skizzo is different than DraftMaster Skizzo.
@antohan is on the board here...draw your own conclusions
Nope.
If Tevezobola happened right now, I would have 2/6 chance to lose a sheep. This round eliminates that.
Lost player out of Tevezobola give you an extra pick. This round I'll be stuck with some 2nd string player.
I'm still in a Lose/Lose situation here.