The Second RedCafe Sheep Draft

Perhaps it's best we hold off on sheep discussions until all three rounds are over. People shouldn't know what sort of sheep are in the mix in advance of their picks.

Yeah, we are taking it to our convo. I brought it up earlier just to rib those waiting for results, because I'm evil like that. Agree though.
 
Is @Skizzo around? People should start preparing 3rd round picks right now.
 
Did Skizzo ever agree to that? I disagree with it, but it's Skizzo's call. If someone took the risk and is now forced to pick the last remaining option in a match and that one is an awful, awful player, much worse than any sheep we would ever think of, it's his own fault. On the other hand, if someone found a match that gave him the security of a decent sheep, he made a smart decision and should be rewarded.

This is a fair point. If people have actually calculated on this, they shouldn't be punished by getting a random sheep from a completely different match/round. But then again, no specific rule has been stated.

See, this is where my old point comes in, Skizzo, old lad: You need to be a bloody lawyer to run these drafts without a snag. Ideally you should have posted the sheep allocating rules along with the criterion. But then again, the beauty of running the thing is that you can simply make a ruling - and then tell everybody to stop whining. Which they will. I will personally pay them a visit if they don't. I have plenty of frequent flyer points to spare - and I am more than crazy enough to use 'em.
 
This is a fair point. If people have actually calculated on this, they shouldn't be punished by getting a random sheep from a completely different match/round. But then again, no specific rule has been stated.

If anyone was actually planning like that they could have easily clarified it on here along with all the other questions that were asked.
 
edited: I guess I'm being stupid again?
 
If anyone was actually planning like that they could have easily clarified it on here along with all the other questions that were asked.

True. The salient part being "no specific rule has been stated". So, the allocating of sheep remains up to the draft master - or rather, the evil genius he has put in charge of said allocation.
 
But then, there may still be a few jackpots out there. There were so many that at least 5 must still be knocking around.
 
You might as well be playing, Anto. You've done more research than most of us!
 
There's an obvious safeish and decent play for MJJ and it's directly linked to what you were banging on about.
Ok. I'll try to restrain myself from posting anything relatively meaningful about possible strategies and players, I don't know what came over me today, seriously. It's an obvious move, but you are right, I shouldn't spoil the game for others
 
1st Feck: Boris. Ended up on the same player all 3 picks.
2nd Feck: Joga. Ended up with the same match & same players.
3rd Feck: Viva. Ended up in same match assuring each other of a guaranteed Sheep.

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Give the sheep to me & Viva. :(
 
You might as well be playing, Anto. You've done more research than most of us!

No, he can't. He doesn't have enough time ;).

I had to come back from hols yesterday for a couple of meetings. Should have gone back by now but got too engrossed with this. Wife ain't happy, I'm telling her one of the meetings got postponed (it's not sunny anyway).

Will probably just get going now and come back later for the sheeping, it's well underway anyway.
 
Why? This is clearly not my best day, faux pas after faux pas. Deleted.

I don't consider it a faux pas, mate. I would just say that what you suggest is precisely why the sheep allocation can't be done along those lines. It obviously can't, as it would be absurd: A sheep is a player who meets the criterion. The criterion is a player who was booked, alongside another player, in ANY match during a World Cup.

Given that the picks of the managers will be entirely random (looked upon from a sheep allocating viewpoint) AND that many managers will end up with ONE valid pick, the only rational route is to allocate sheep based on the core of the original criterion, namely: Any player booked or sent off in any World Cup match.

And from there - select suitable sheep (according to quality and which positions are already filled, etc.)
 
1st Feck: Boris. Ended up on the same player all 3 picks.
2nd Feck: Joga. Ended up with the same match & same player.
3rd Feck: Viva. Ended up in same match assuring each other of a guaranteed Sheep.

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Give the sheep to me & Viva. :(

May as well as we have already agreed your sheep.
 
1st Feck: Boris. Ended up on the same player all 3 picks.
2nd Feck: Joga. Ended up with the same match & same players.
3rd Feck: Viva. Ended up in same match assuring each other of a guaranteed Sheep.

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Give the sheep to me & Viva. :(
You have my sympathies, unless of course you're the one who picked you-know-who over the other guy, in which case you deserve everything you get.
 
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I won't be able to make my pick before 5 am gmt.. .if that's too long give me two Sheeps as am online from mobile.
No, you get your 12 hours. Those crazy addicted drafties can wait. Just add me to the conversation with Skizzo regarding your picks, so that one of us can post them tomorrow morning without delaying it further.
 
I don't mind Ronaldinho being blocked. Just that we picked him from the same match...and that ensures that we have mutually blocked each other for the 3rd pick.

Like anto said, this was the only game he would have been picked from. So it was always going to be a very risky pick for round two.
 
@ctp, it does get silly like that sometimes with the naming. Don't take it personal, draft managers tend to assume their rivals have the IQ of an amoeba and the literacy of a blind bat.
 
I've changed it, but everyone knows who it is anyway.
 
You have my sympathies, unless of course you're the one who picked you-know-who over the other guy, in which case you deserve everything you get.
I have Ancelotti, what can I do with you know who :(
Yeah, other guy-Dinho was a mistake, but I love gambling in these sheep drafts.
 
No, you get your 12 hours. Those crazy addicted drafties can wait. Just add me to the conversation with Skizzo regarding your picks, so that one of us can post them tomorrow morning without delaying it further.

cheers, will do so tomorrow when am on from a PC.
 
Are the second round picks out? I can't seem to find them
 
Are the second round picks out? I can't seem to find them
ROUND 2, STAGE 1 RESULTS

MJJ - Fail (Falcao) - Fail (Maradona)
VivaJanuaj - Fail (Matthaus) - (Maradona)

BorisDeLaFora - PASS - Fail (Thuram)
Annahomoss - Fail (Matthaus) - Fail (Maradona)
Joga Bonito - Fail (Ronaldo) - (Thuram)
Stobzilla - Fail (Maradona) - Fail (Matthaus)
Edgar Allan Pillow - Fail (Ronaldo) - (Thuram)

Harms - Fail (Falcao) - PASS
Sajeev - PASS - PASS
Cutch - PASS - PASS
Kazi - PASS - PASS
NM - PASS - PASS
KPS - PASS - PASS
MDFC Manager - PASS - PASS

NoPace - Fail (Maradona) - Fail (Matthaus)

PLAYER BLOCK LIST
Beckenbauer, Di Stefano, Cruyff, Rijkaard, Sammer, Haan, Zebec, Vialli, Deschamps, Falcao, Maradona, Matthaus, Thuram, Ronaldo

ROUND 2, STAGE 2 RESULTS

VivaJanuzaj - FAIL (Ronaldinho) - PASS
JogaBonito - PASS - PASS
BorisDeLaFora - PASS
NoPace - PASS - PASS
Stobzilla - FAIL (player already picked) - PASS
Raees - PASS - PASS
Edgar Allan Pillow - FAIL (Ronaldinho) - PASS
Harms - PASS
MJJ - FAIL (Player already picked) - FAIL (Player already picked)
Annahnomoss - PASS - PASS



PLAYER BLOCK LIST
Beckenbauer, Di Stefano, Cruyff, Rijkaard, Sammer, Haan, Zebec, Vialli, Deschamps, Falcao, Maradona, Matthaus, Thuram, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho

@VivaJanuzaj @MJJ @Edgar Allan Pillow @Stobzilla
 
So, @Skizzo is it possible to post the next criteria now?
The deadline can remain unchanged, just more research time would be appreciated!

Something to do whilst we wait for final confirmation and eventual sheep :(

I can, but there may be an overlap from this and the next criteria. Keep that in mind with MJJ still to submit his final picks here. Some of the players you want may have been picked this round and not revealed yet. If you guys want it though, I can put it up now, so you have extra time.
 
I can, but there may be an overlap from this and the next criteria. Keep that in mind with MJJ still to submit his final picks here. Some of the players you want may have been picked this round and not revealed yet. If you guys want it though, I can put it up now, so you have extra time.

Put it up. All we can do is choose a couple of options and if any players are already chosen this round (post results tomorrow), we just move to next choice.
 
I can, but there may be an overlap from this and the next criteria. Keep that in mind with MJJ still to submit his final picks here. Some of the players you want may have been picked this round and not revealed yet. If you guys want it though, I can put it up now, so you have extra time.

Doesn't make sense IMO. we don't know who is picked/blocked.