The Road Trip Draft

[Deleted member 101472]

Draft Restrictions/Allowances:
1. You can only pick a maximum of 2 players from a nation using the above definition of which nation a player represents.

@Moby is gio picking didi ok?

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Draft Restrictions/Allowances:
1. You can only pick a maximum of 2 players from a nation using the above definition of which nation a player represents.

@Moby is gio picking didi ok?

Just for playing 11, not for squad was my understanding.

 

[Deleted member 101472]

Just for playing 11, not for squad was my understanding.

I assumed that but making sure, would prefer it to be ineligible to add a little bit of an extra challenge

 

[Theon]

Draft Restrictions/Allowances:
1. You can only pick a maximum of 2 players from a nation using the above definition of which nation a player represents.

@Moby is gio picking didi ok?

It’s squad - been clarified earlier

 

[Šjor Bepo]

Just for playing 11, not for squad was my understanding.

pick a maximum of 2

 

[Deleted member 101472]

It’s squad - been clarified earlier

any idea where? cant find the post

 

[2mufc0]

Draft Restrictions/Allowances:
1. You can only pick a maximum of 2 players from a nation using the above definition of which nation a player represents.

@Moby is gio picking didi ok?

Pretty sure Moby said 2 in starting 11 only earlier.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Here goes. Though my question was for reinforcements, I presume it'll apply all through the draft.

1. You can only pick a maximum of 2 players from a nation using the above definition of which nation a player represents.

This is for playing 11 or squad? If we already have 2 then can't pick from same NT in reinforcements?

Playing 11.

 

[Theon]

pick a maximum of 2

Here is the post.

Strange anyone would think it’d be anything else given the possibility of needing to deviate through countries you’ve already been to (poor drafting which is punished by the player being ineligible, but not something which should make you ‘stuck’).

And also obviously reinforcements require you to pick players from countries you’ve already been to, unless you’d want reinforcements limited to tier three nations.

Yes, the chain continues as per the rules. 2 players per nation rule is applied for the playing 11 as well for the whole draft.

And no the FIT doesnt carry forward. One is for drafting stage, one is for reinforcements.

 

[Deleted member 101472]

Would have been better to make it the squad IMO.

 

[Theon]

Would have been better to make it the squad IMO.

Nah, don’t see any reason at all why it would be. There’s nothing wrong with encouraging tactical flexibility.

Thing that should have been changed is the silly drawing of the lines for the overseas nation-hopping. Some of those have been ridiculous imo.

 

[MJJ]

Camacho(I pmed gio my pick o time hould only be 10 min)

can omeone tag bepo, my keyboard key int working.

 

[Indnyc]

@Šjor Bepo

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

Camacho(I pmed gio my pick o time hould only be 10 min)

can omeone tag bepo, my keyboard key int working.

I'm assuming that's Ignacio Camacho the spanish DM.

Don't worry. I'll put that in.

 

[MJJ]

I'm assuming that's Ignacio Camacho the spanish DM.

Don't worry. I'll put that in.

It like you can read my mind pillow <3

 

[harms]

1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63) 6. M. Trésor 7. M. Tardelli (16) 8. X. Alonso 9. C. Gentile (7)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1) 6. V. Voronin (53) 7. H. Stoichkov (5) 8. V. Vasovic (4) 9. G. Grosics (33)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2) 6. P. Vieira (10) 7. M. Sammer (0) 8. A. Robben (1) 9. G. Banks (2)

4. harms - 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5) 6. K. Förster (8) 7. P. Elkjær (165) 8. B. Schuster (0) 9. L. Yashin (0)

5. P-Nut0712 - 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5) FIT 6. N. Kante 7. D. Beckham (10) 8. P. Evra (27) 9. M. Overmars (41)

6. Skizzo/Pat - 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45) FIT 7. VR Andrade (60) 8. Rivaldo (1) 9. S. Marzolini (45)

7. Moby - 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57) 7. U. Seeler (4) 8. B. Lizarazu (10) 9. E. Gerets (277)

8. willhse456 - 1. M. Platini (10) 2. KH Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98) FIT 7. D. Santos (215) 8. P. Montero (283) 9. T. Cerezo (10)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow - 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. JM Moreno (210) FIT 4. F. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64) 7. D. Edwards (54) 8. M. Neuer (100) 9. E. Ocwirk (10)

10. Indnyc - 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1) FIT 7. N. Santos (6) 8. J. Nasazzi (110) 9. U. Fillol (2)

11. Sjor Bepo - 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10) 7. R. Kopa (8) 8. A. Cole(376) FIT 9. L. Monti (10)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. JL Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri (242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8) 7. S. Kocsis (10) 8. M. Sindelar (84) 9. P. Vierchowod (164) 10. J. A. Camacho (10)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio (10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160) 7. J. Santamaria (0) 8. Marcelo (9) 9. Luis Suarez (10) 10. Didi (?)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis (10) 6. F. Cannavaro (10) 7. B. Zebec (10) 8. L. Kubala (10) 9. V. Beara (10) 10. A. Pirlo (10)

15. Michaelf7777777 - 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J. Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek (10) 7. M. Kaltz (66) 8. W. Rooney (10) 9. W. Schulz (10) 10. D. Alaba (10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. F. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust (59) FIT 7. R. Carlos 8. M. Kempes (2) 9. J. Schiaffino 10. D. Alves (10)

@Šjor Bepo

 

[Šjor Bepo]

 

[Indnyc]

1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63) 6. M. Trésor 7. M. Tardelli (16) 8. X. Alonso 9. C. Gentile (7)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1) 6. V. Voronin (53) 7. H. Stoichkov (5) 8. V. Vasovic (4) 9. G. Grosics (33)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2) 6. P. Vieira (10) 7. M. Sammer (0) 8. A. Robben (1) 9. G. Banks (2)

4. harms - 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5) 6. K. Förster (8) 7. P. Elkjær (165) 8. B. Schuster (0) 9. L. Yashin (0)

5. P-Nut0712 - 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5) FIT 6. N. Kante 7. D. Beckham (10) 8. P. Evra (27) 9. M. Overmars (41)

6. Skizzo/Pat - 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45) FIT 7. VR Andrade (60) 8. Rivaldo (1) 9. S. Marzolini (45)

7. Moby - 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57) 7. U. Seeler (4) 8. B. Lizarazu (10) 9. E. Gerets (277)

8. willhse456 - 1. M. Platini (10) 2. KH Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98) FIT 7. D. Santos (215) 8. P. Montero (283) 9. T. Cerezo (10)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow - 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. JM Moreno (210) FIT 4. F. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64) 7. D. Edwards (54) 8. M. Neuer (100) 9. E. Ocwirk (10)

10. Indnyc - 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1) FIT 7. N. Santos (6) 8. J. Nasazzi (110) 9. U. Fillol (2)

11. Sjor Bepo - 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10) 7. R. Kopa (8) 8. A. Cole(376) FIT 9. L. Monti (10)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. JL Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri (242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8) 7. S. Kocsis (10) 8. M. Sindelar (84) 9. P. Vierchowod (164) 10. J. Camacho (10)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio (10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160) 7. J. Santamaria (0) 8. Marcelo (9) 9. Luis Suarez (10) 10. Didi (480?)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis (10) 6. F. Cannavaro (10) 7. B. Zebec (10) 8. L. Kubala (10) 9. V. Beara (10) 10. A. Pirlo (10)

15. Michaelf7777777 - 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J. Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek (10) 7. M. Kaltz (66) 8. W. Rooney (10) 9. W. Schulz (10) 10. D. Alaba (10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. F. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust (59) FIT 7. R. Carlos 8. M. Kempes (2) 9. J. Schiaffino 10. D. Alves (10)

 

[Šjor Bepo]

1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63) 6. M. Trésor 7. M. Tardelli (16) 8. X. Alonso 9. C. Gentile (7)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1) 6. V. Voronin (53) 7. H. Stoichkov (5) 8. V. Vasovic (4) 9. G. Grosics (33)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2) 6. P. Vieira (10) 7. M. Sammer (0) 8. A. Robben (1) 9. G. Banks (2)

4. harms - 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5) 6. K. Förster (8) 7. P. Elkjær (165) 8. B. Schuster (0) 9. L. Yashin (0)

5. P-Nut0712 - 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5) FIT 6. N. Kante 7. D. Beckham (10) 8. P. Evra (27) 9. M. Overmars (41)

6. Skizzo/Pat - 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45) FIT 7. VR Andrade (60) 8. Rivaldo (1) 9. S. Marzolini (45)

7. Moby - 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57) 7. U. Seeler (4) 8. B. Lizarazu (10) 9. E. Gerets (277)

8. willhse456 - 1. M. Platini (10) 2. KH Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98) FIT 7. D. Santos (215) 8. P. Montero (283) 9. T. Cerezo (10)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow - 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. JM Moreno (210) FIT 4. F. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64) 7. D. Edwards (54) 8. M. Neuer (100) 9. E. Ocwirk (10)

10. Indnyc - 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1) FIT 7. N. Santos (6) 8. J. Nasazzi (110) 9. U. Fillol (2)

11. Sjor Bepo - 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10) 7. R. Kopa (8) 8. A. Cole(376) FIT 9. L. Monti (10) 10. R. Rivelino (4)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. JL Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri (242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8) 7. S. Kocsis (10) 8. M. Sindelar (84) 9. P. Vierchowod (164) 10. J. A. Camacho (10)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio (10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160) 7. J. Santamaria (0) 8. Marcelo (9) 9. Luis Suarez (10) 10. Didi (472)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis (10) 6. F. Cannavaro (10) 7. B. Zebec (10) 8. L. Kubala (10) 9. V. Beara (10) 10. A. Pirlo (10)

15. Michaelf7777777 - 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J. Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek (10) 7. M. Kaltz (66) 8. W. Rooney (10) 9. W. Schulz (10) 10. D. Alaba (10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. F. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust (59) FIT 7. R. Carlos 8. M. Kempes (2) 9. J. Schiaffino 10. D. Alves (10)

@Indnyc

 

[Indnyc]

@Edgar Allan Pillow

 

[Indnyc]

1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63) 6. M. Trésor 7. M. Tardelli (16) 8. X. Alonso 9. C. Gentile (7)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1) 6. V. Voronin (53) 7. H. Stoichkov (5) 8. V. Vasovic (4) 9. G. Grosics (33)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2) 6. P. Vieira (10) 7. M. Sammer (0) 8. A. Robben (1) 9. G. Banks (2)

4. harms - 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5) 6. K. Förster (8) 7. P. Elkjær (165) 8. B. Schuster (0) 9. L. Yashin (0)

5. P-Nut0712 - 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5) FIT 6. N. Kante 7. D. Beckham (10) 8. P. Evra (27) 9. M. Overmars (41)

6. Skizzo/Pat - 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45) FIT 7. VR Andrade (60) 8. Rivaldo (1) 9. S. Marzolini (45)

7. Moby - 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57) 7. U. Seeler (4) 8. B. Lizarazu (10) 9. E. Gerets (277)

8. willhse456 - 1. M. Platini (10) 2. KH Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98) FIT 7. D. Santos (215) 8. P. Montero (283) 9. T. Cerezo (10)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow - 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. JM Moreno (210) FIT 4. F. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64) 7. D. Edwards (54) 8. M. Neuer (100) 9. E. Ocwirk (10)

10. Indnyc - 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1) FIT 7. N. Santos (6) 8. J. Nasazzi (110) 9. U. Fillol (2) 10. Maicon (2)

11. Sjor Bepo - 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10) 7. R. Kopa (8) 8. A. Cole(376) FIT 9. L. Monti (10) 10. R. Rivelino (4)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. JL Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri (242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8) 7. S. Kocsis (10) 8. M. Sindelar (84) 9. P. Vierchowod (164) 10. J. A. Camacho (10)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio (10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160) 7. J. Santamaria (0) 8. Marcelo (9) 9. Luis Suarez (10) 10. Didi (472)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis (10) 6. F. Cannavaro (10) 7. B. Zebec (10) 8. L. Kubala (10) 9. V. Beara (10) 10. A. Pirlo (10)

15. Michaelf7777777 - 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J. Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek (10) 7. M. Kaltz (66) 8. W. Rooney (10) 9. W. Schulz (10) 10. D. Alaba (10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. F. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust (59) FIT 7. R. Carlos 8. M. Kempes (2) 9. J. Schiaffino 10. D. Alves (10)

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

@willhse456

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

@harms have Will's pick?

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63) 6. M. Trésor 7. M. Tardelli (16) 8. X. Alonso 9. C. Gentile (7)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1) 6. V. Voronin (53) 7. H. Stoichkov (5) 8. V. Vasovic (4) 9. G. Grosics (33)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2) 6. P. Vieira (10) 7. M. Sammer (0) 8. A. Robben (1) 9. G. Banks (2)

4. harms - 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5) 6. K. Förster (8) 7. P. Elkjær (165) 8. B. Schuster (0) 9. L. Yashin (0)

5. P-Nut0712 - 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5) FIT 6. N. Kante 7. D. Beckham (10) 8. P. Evra (27) 9. M. Overmars (41)

6. Skizzo/Pat - 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45) FIT 7. VR Andrade (60) 8. Rivaldo (1) 9. S. Marzolini (45)

7. Moby - 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57) 7. U. Seeler (4) 8. B. Lizarazu (10) 9. E. Gerets (277)

8. willhse456 - 1. M. Platini (10) 2. KH Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98) FIT 7. D. Santos (215) 8. P. Montero (283) 9. T. Cerezo (10)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow - 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. JM Moreno (210) FIT 4. F. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64) 7. D. Edwards (54) 8. M. Neuer (100) 9. E. Ocwirk (10) 10. A. Picchi (20)

10. Indnyc - 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1) FIT 7. N. Santos (6) 8. J. Nasazzi (110) 9. U. Fillol (2) 10. Maicon (2)

11. Sjor Bepo - 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10) 7. R. Kopa (8) 8. A. Cole(376) FIT 9. L. Monti (10) 10. R. Rivelino (4)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. JL Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri (242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8) 7. S. Kocsis (10) 8. M. Sindelar (84) 9. P. Vierchowod (164) 10. J. A. Camacho (10)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio (10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160) 7. J. Santamaria (0) 8. Marcelo (9) 9. Luis Suarez (10) 10. Didi (472)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis (10) 6. F. Cannavaro (10) 7. B. Zebec (10) 8. L. Kubala (10) 9. V. Beara (10) 10. A. Pirlo (10)

15. Michaelf7777777 - 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J. Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek (10) 7. M. Kaltz (66) 8. W. Rooney (10) 9. W. Schulz (10) 10. D. Alaba (10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. F. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust (59) FIT 7. R. Carlos 8. M. Kempes (2) 9. J. Schiaffino 10. D. Alves (10)

 

[Theon]

@willhse456

Very nice. Big fan.

 

[harms]

@willhse456 picks Teofilo Cubillas
@Moby

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

You must feel like Tuppet.

 

[Moby]

I'll take Uli Stileke. Someone please update.

 

[harms]

1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63) 6. M. Trésor 7. M. Tardelli (16) 8. X. Alonso 9. C. Gentile (7)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1) 6. V. Voronin (53) 7. H. Stoichkov (5) 8. V. Vasovic (4) 9. G. Grosics (33)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2) 6. P. Vieira (10) 7. M. Sammer (0) 8. A. Robben (1) 9. G. Banks (2)

4. harms - 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5) 6. K. Förster (8) 7. P. Elkjær (165) 8. B. Schuster (0) 9. L. Yashin (0)

5. P-Nut0712 - 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5) FIT 6. N. Kante 7. D. Beckham (10) 8. P. Evra (27) 9. M. Overmars (41)

6. Skizzo/Pat - 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45) FIT 7. VR Andrade (60) 8. Rivaldo (1) 9. S. Marzolini (45)

7. Moby - 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57) 7. U. Seeler (4) 8. B. Lizarazu (10) 9. E. Gerets (277) 10. U. Stilike (69)

8. willhse456 - 1. M. Platini (10) 2. KH Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98) FIT 7. D. Santos (215) 8. P. Montero (283) 9. T. Cerezo (10) 10. T. Cubillas (10)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow - 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. JM Moreno (210) FIT 4. F. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64) 7. D. Edwards (54) 8. M. Neuer (100) 9. E. Ocwirk (10) 10. A. Picchi (20)

10. Indnyc - 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1) FIT 7. N. Santos (6) 8. J. Nasazzi (110) 9. U. Fillol (2) 10. Maicon (2)

11. Sjor Bepo - 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10) 7. R. Kopa (8) 8. A. Cole(376) FIT 9. L. Monti (10) 10. R. Rivelino (4)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. JL Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri (242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8) 7. S. Kocsis (10) 8. M. Sindelar (84) 9. P. Vierchowod (164) 10. J. A. Camacho (10)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio (10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160) 7. J. Santamaria (0) 8. Marcelo (9) 9. Luis Suarez (10) 10. Didi (472)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis (10) 6. F. Cannavaro (10) 7. B. Zebec (10) 8. L. Kubala (10) 9. V. Beara (10) 10. A. Pirlo (10)

15. Michaelf7777777 - 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J. Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek (10) 7. M. Kaltz (66) 8. W. Rooney (10) 9. W. Schulz (10) 10. D. Alaba (10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. F. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust (59) FIT 7. R. Carlos 8. M. Kempes (2) 9. J. Schiaffino 10. D. Alves (10)

 

[harms]

@Skizzo @Pat_Mustard

 

[Pat_Mustard]

1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63) 6. M. Trésor 7. M. Tardelli (16) 8. X. Alonso 9. C. Gentile (7)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1) 6. V. Voronin (53) 7. H. Stoichkov (5) 8. V. Vasovic (4) 9. G. Grosics (33)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2) 6. P. Vieira (10) 7. M. Sammer (0) 8. A. Robben (1) 9. G. Banks (2)

4. harms - 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5) 6. K. Förster (8) 7. P. Elkjær (165) 8. B. Schuster (0) 9. L. Yashin (0)

5. P-Nut0712 - 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5) FIT 6. N. Kante 7. D. Beckham (10) 8. P. Evra (27) 9. M. Overmars (41)

6. Skizzo/Pat - 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45) FIT 7. VR Andrade (60) 8. Rivaldo (1) 9. S. Marzolini (45) 10. N. Goncalves (4)

7. Moby - 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57) 7. U. Seeler (4) 8. B. Lizarazu (10) 9. E. Gerets (277) 10. U. Stilike (69)

8. willhse456 - 1. M. Platini (10) 2. KH Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98) FIT 7. D. Santos (215) 8. P. Montero (283) 9. T. Cerezo (10) 10. T. Cubillas (10)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow - 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. JM Moreno (210) FIT 4. F. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64) 7. D. Edwards (54) 8. M. Neuer (100) 9. E. Ocwirk (10) 10. A. Picchi (20)

10. Indnyc - 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1) FIT 7. N. Santos (6) 8. J. Nasazzi (110) 9. U. Fillol (2) 10. Maicon (2)

11. Sjor Bepo - 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10) 7. R. Kopa (8) 8. A. Cole(376) FIT 9. L. Monti (10) 10. R. Rivelino (4)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. JL Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri (242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8) 7. S. Kocsis (10) 8. M. Sindelar (84) 9. P. Vierchowod (164) 10. J. A. Camacho (10)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio (10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160) 7. J. Santamaria (0) 8. Marcelo (9) 9. Luis Suarez (10) 10. Didi (472)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis (10) 6. F. Cannavaro (10) 7. B. Zebec (10) 8. L. Kubala (10) 9. V. Beara (10) 10. A. Pirlo (10)

15. Michaelf7777777 - 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J. Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek (10) 7. M. Kaltz (66) 8. W. Rooney (10) 9. W. Schulz (10) 10. D. Alaba (10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. F. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust (59) FIT 7. R. Carlos 8. M. Kempes (2) 9. J. Schiaffino 10. D. Alves (10)

@P-Nut0712

 

[The Red Viper]

I am online @harms . Will make our pick when it's our turn.

 

[Edgar Allan Pillow]

So Skizzo updates for everyone else and Pat updates for Skizzo, huh?

 

[harms]

I am online @harms . Will make our pick when it's our turn.

Sure, no problem! P-Nut haven't been online for quite a while though.

 

[P-Nut]

Far too tempting to reunite these 2.

1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63) 6. M. Trésor 7. M. Tardelli (16) 8. X. Alonso 9. C. Gentile (7)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1) 6. V. Voronin (53) 7. H. Stoichkov (5) 8. V. Vasovic (4) 9. G. Grosics (33)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2) 6. P. Vieira (10) 7. M. Sammer (0) 8. A. Robben (1) 9. G. Banks (2)

4. harms - 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5) 6. K. Förster (8) 7. P. Elkjær (165) 8. B. Schuster (0) 9. L. Yashin (0)

5. P-Nut0712 - 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5) FIT 6. N. Kante 7. D. Beckham (10) 8. P. Evra (27) 9. M. Overmars (41) 10. G. Neville (34)

6. Skizzo/Pat - 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45) FIT 7. VR Andrade (60) 8. Rivaldo (1) 9. S. Marzolini (45) 10. N. Goncalves (4)

7. Moby - 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57) 7. U. Seeler (4) 8. B. Lizarazu (10) 9. E. Gerets (277) 10. U. Stilike (69)

8. willhse456 - 1. M. Platini (10) 2. KH Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98) FIT 7. D. Santos (215) 8. P. Montero (283) 9. T. Cerezo (10) 10. T. Cubillas (10)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow - 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. JM Moreno (210) FIT 4. F. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64) 7. D. Edwards (54) 8. M. Neuer (100) 9. E. Ocwirk (10) 10. A. Picchi (20)

10. Indnyc - 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1) FIT 7. N. Santos (6) 8. J. Nasazzi (110) 9. U. Fillol (2) 10. Maicon (2)

11. Sjor Bepo - 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10) 7. R. Kopa (8) 8. A. Cole(376) FIT 9. L. Monti (10) 10. R. Rivelino (4)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. JL Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri (242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8) 7. S. Kocsis (10) 8. M. Sindelar (84) 9. P. Vierchowod (164) 10. J. A. Camacho (10)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio (10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160) 7. J. Santamaria (0) 8. Marcelo (9) 9. Luis Suarez (10) 10. Didi (472)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis (10) 6. F. Cannavaro (10) 7. B. Zebec (10) 8. L. Kubala (10) 9. V. Beara (10) 10. A. Pirlo (10)

15. Michaelf7777777 - 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J. Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek (10) 7. M. Kaltz (66) 8. W. Rooney (10) 9. W. Schulz (10) 10. D. Alaba (10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. F. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust (59) FIT 7. R. Carlos 8. M. Kempes (2) 9. J. Schiaffino 10. D. Alves (10)

@harms

 

[Theon]

Think his stocks went really down lately. In previous all time drafts he was picked in 3rd or 4th pick. In Edgars Auction draft he was rated on par with Scirea for example (not that I'm implying he's as good mind), yet nowadays he's overlooked compared to some other SA defenders.

He played in an attackers dominated era as you mentioned, but his credentials in terms of both in the 54 WC (especially group stage games he was pretty good) and at club level are second to none compared to other CB's from that era.

Of course the tactics and formations at the time allowed for huge gaps in defence which might see him out of position at times, but we have to bear that in mind when we cross compare him to modern day defenders.

He was rather elegant compared to some of the other Uruguayan defenders at the time and to me was a CB ahead of his time.

Reading back and agree with Enigma on this.

I remember defending Santamaria when he was dropped for Sammer in a recent draft and imo he’s at the very top of that second tier (obviously a level below Baresi, Scirea, Moore, Figueroa etc). Sloppy defending was almost guaranteed at times in that period, literally happened all the time, so wouldn’t expect a mistake-free career from Santamaria, which is a silly standard to hold anyone to anyway imo.

But yeah, remember watching goals of Puskas and the defending (and goalkeeping) was diabolical compared to modern standards. Think you just need to take a general elevation of standards into account when assessing older players or the whole thing falls apart. Feel the same about Garrincha for example, possibly the best dribbler ever, but if you actually watch his dribbling compared to modern players it’s about two tiers below. Someone like Ronaldinho is so much better it’s ridiculous, in terms of ball control, technique, tricks, ability to manipulate the ball etc.

 

[Deleted member 101472]

Love it @P-Nut0712

 

[harms]

Oleg Blokhin @The Red Viper

 

[The Red Viper]

CARLES PUYOL
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[The Red Viper]

@Jim Beam