The Road Trip Draft

Hmm, I didn't see them as ''seperated by body of water' per op. They are separated by Belgium.

It a boat trip, not a road one tbh.
Aye, I can see where you are coming from. Up to @Moby I guess to clarify. I've though the same as harms and don so far that would be a valid route.
 
Personally I feel like this goes a bit against the spirit of the draft (was already thinking that when harms posted that pic). Obviously not pleading for a different ruling because several picks have been made in the same way but I was already confused by the Xavi -> Scirea jump. Personally I would have liked it better to reserve these jumps across water for the actual island nations such as GB, Iceland or Malta and such. As for the current rules it would be possible to jump from Germany to Russia via Kaliningrad, to Turkey across the black sea and over to Italy if you thread the needle properly and maybe involve the turkish part of Cyprus I guess. A bit too many technicalities and ways to be overly clever but that is just my to cents. Great draft otherwise!

Well we're pretty much into the draft so I doubt we can change that. I've calculated the Kaliningrad route as valid myself. :)
 
Personally I feel like this goes a bit against the spirit of the draft (was already thinking that when harms posted that pic). Obviously not pleading for a different ruling because several picks have been made in the same way but I was already confused by the Xavi -> Scirea jump. Personally I would have liked it better to reserve these jumps across water for the actual island nations such as GB, Iceland or Malta and such. As for the current rules it would be possible to jump from Germany to Russia via Kaliningrad, to Turkey across the black sea and over to Italy if you thread the needle properly and maybe involve the turkish part of Cyprus I guess. A bit too many technicalities and ways to be overly clever but that is just my to cents. Great draft otherwise!

I’m really really sorry but there’s nothing you can say that won’t make me think you have a massive talent for altering your IP address and you are indeed tuppet.
 
Personally I feel like this goes a bit against the spirit of the draft (was already thinking that when harms posted that pic). Obviously not pleading for a different ruling because several picks have been made in the same way but I was already confused by the Xavi -> Scirea jump. Personally I would have liked it better to reserve these jumps across water for the actual island nations such as GB, Iceland or Malta and such. As for the current rules it would be possible to jump from Germany to Russia via Kaliningrad, to Turkey across the black sea and over to Italy if you thread the needle properly and maybe involve the turkish part of Cyprus I guess. A bit too many technicalities and ways to be overly clever but that is just my to cents. Great draft otherwise!

Good post, Tuppy!
 
This seems pretty clear to me:

2. Countries that belong to the same continent and are separated by a water body will be considered eligible as neighbours to the nation if you can draw a straight line between the two nations with only water and no land obstructing the line. On a flat map. No cleverness here, clarify openly in case of doubts and majority decides whether it holds true. Please raise doubts before the draft starts.
 
@Gio

I was convinced you were going to take Breitner and complete one of the best midfield diamonds ever

Rijkaard
Matthäus Breitner
Zidane

Thanks for leaving him. If I didn’t get my last two picks I was about to go into full on GOAT wall mode
 
I’m really really sorry but there’s nothing you can say that won’t make me think you have a massive talent for altering your IP address and you are indeed tuppet.
It's getting tedious.
 
Well we're pretty much into the draft so I doubt we can change that. I've calculated the Kaliningrad route as valid myself. :)

Ye as I said, too many picks have been made and it is nothing fundamental that really hinders a good draft. I just personally feel like it takes away a but of the road trip feel since you can circumvent a lot of the restrictions that brings with it.

Sorry by the way for spoiling the fun of revealing a possible evil ploy of the Kaliningrad jump. Other routes (without any specific interest to the draft I think, since I can't really think of great greek players) that might be possible: Greece -> Croatia should work no problem, but could you pass by Sicily to go from Crete to Spain as well? Turns out this is no problem at all and just adds a fun extra dimension to the considerations :lol:

Good post, Tuppy!

I’m really really sorry but there’s nothing you can say that won’t make me think you have a massive talent for altering your IP address and you are indeed tuppet.

I am actually starting to think Ido have to explain myself here :lol: I'm not sure what tuppets expertise with the current and former Dortmund squads of recent years was but this is not the only thread I am following on this site. Then again, if I were tuppet I would of course read up on this now huh? ;)

It's getting tedious.

I don't mind it too much as long as no one dismisses what I have to say. So far still find tuppetgate hilarious.

You would think that about a user with 80% the same letters as you ;)

They're onto us :nervous:
 
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1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2)

4. harms 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5)

5. P-Nut0712 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5)

6. Skizzo/Pat 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12)

7. Moby 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14)

8. willhse456 1. M. Platini (10) 2. Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. J.M. Moreno (210) FIT 4. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64)

10. Indnyc 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1)

11. Sjor Bepo 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. J.L. Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri(242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio(10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis(10) 6. F. Cannavaro(10)

15. Michaelf7777777 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek(10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust(59)

@willhse456 use this one
 
1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2)

4. harms 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5)

5. P-Nut0712 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5)

6. Skizzo/Pat 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12)

7. Moby 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14)

8. willhse456 1. M. Platini (10) 2. Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. J.M. Moreno (210) FIT 4. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64)

10. Indnyc 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1)

11. Sjor Bepo 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. J.L. Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri(242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio(10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis(10) 6. F. Cannavaro(10)

15. Michaelf7777777 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek(10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust(59)

@Moby
 
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1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2)

4. harms 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5)

5. P-Nut0712 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5)

6. Skizzo/Pat 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12)

7. Moby 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57)

8. willhse456 1. M. Platini (10) 2. Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. J.M. Moreno (210) FIT 4. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64)

10. Indnyc 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1)

11. Sjor Bepo 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. J.L. Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri(242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio(10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis(10) 6. F. Cannavaro(10)

15. Michaelf7777777 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek(10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust(59)

@Skizzo @Pat_Mustard
 
It’s still absolutely insane that one player in particular hasn’t been picked
 
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1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2)

4. harms 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5)

5. P-Nut0712 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5)

6. Skizzo/Pat 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45)

7. Moby 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57)

8. willhse456 1. M. Platini (10) 2. Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. J.M. Moreno (210) FIT 4. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64)

10. Indnyc 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1)

11. Sjor Bepo 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. J.L. Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri(242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio(10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis(10) 6. F. Cannavaro(10)

15. Michaelf7777777 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek(10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust(59)

@P-Nut0712
 
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1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2)

4. harms 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5)

5. P-Nut0712 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5) FIT 6. N. Kante (13)

6. Skizzo/Pat 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45)

7. Moby 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57)

8. willhse456 1. M. Platini (10) 2. Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. J.M. Moreno (210) FIT 4. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64)

10. Indnyc 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1)

11. Sjor Bepo 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. J.L. Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri(242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio(10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis(10) 6. F. Cannavaro(10)

15. Michaelf7777777 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek(10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust(59)

@harms
 
It’s still absolutely insane that one player in particular hasn’t been picked
There are a fair few left actually.. I was hoping Blanc would remain for me.. Now will have to change directions :(
 
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1. Himannv - 1. Pelé (16) 2. H. Chumpitaz 3. Cafu (9) FIT 4. M. Laudrup 5. A. Brehme (63)

2. Jim Beam - 1. J. Cruyff (12) 2. B. Schweinsteiger (3) 3. R. Gullit (3) 4. J. Kohler (4) 5. J. Litmanen (1) 6. V. Voronin (53)

3. Enigma / TRV - 1. L. Messi (2) 2. Ronaldinho (10) 3. F. Redondo (1) 4. C. Alberto (1) FIT 5. G. Facchetti (2) 6. P. Vieira (10)

4. harms 1. D. Maradona (1) 2. E. Figueroa (2) FIT 3. P. Maldini (0) 4. M. Amoros (0) 5. E. Davids (5) 6. K. Forster (8)

5. P-Nut0712 1. L. Ronaldo (38) 2. D. Passarella (71) 3. Socrates (119) 4. D. Godin (10) 5. G. Batistuta (5) FIT 6. N. Kante (13)

6. Skizzo/Pat 1. F. Beckenbauer (124) 2. M. Desailly (47) 3. G. Muller (1) 4. J. Neeskens (190) 5. P. Schmeichel (12) 6. J. Johnstone (45)

7. Moby 1. C. Ronaldo (117) 2. A. Iniesta (174) 3. L. Figo (8) 4. L. Suarez Miramontes (1) 5. G. Bergomi (14) 6. L. Blanc (57)

8. willhse456 1. M. Platini (10) 2. Rummenigge (10) 3. M. van Basten (36) 4. R. Ferdinand (14) 5. J. Tigana (94) 6. A. Cabrini (98)

9. Edgar/Allan/Pillow 1. A. Di Stefano (119) 2. Zico (93) 3. J.M. Moreno (210) FIT 4. Gento 5. S. Matthews (95) 6. B. Vogts (64)

10. Indnyc 1. G. Best (12) 2. B. Charlton (2) 3. D. Law (7) 4. R. Keane (4) 5. R. Giggs (8) 6. P. McGrath (1)

11. Sjor Bepo 1. Eusebio (11) 2. Xavi (10) 3. G. Scirea (10) 4. T. Henry (1) 5. P. Lahm (6) 6. J. Stam (10)

12. MJJ - 1. Garrincha (434) 2. J. Zanetti (10) 3. PR Falcao (10) 4. J.L. Andrade (10) 5. O. Ruggeri(242) FIT 6. D. Dzajic (8)

13. Gio - 1. L. Matthäus (10) 2. F. Rijkaard (28) 3. B. Moore (10) 4. Z. Zidane (35) 5. R. Baggio(10) FIT 6. Jairzinho (160)

14. Don Alfredo - 1. Romario (10) 2. O. Varela (1) FIT 3. B. Robson (10) 4. R. Krol (4) 5. M. Bossis(10) 6. F. Cannavaro(10)

15. Michaelf7777777 1. F. Puskas (6) 2. L. Modric (10) 3. J Bozsik (57) 4. J. Popluhar (3) 5. P. Nedved 6. Z. Boniek(10)

16. Arbitrium- 1. Baresi 2. L. Thuram (312) 3. A. Nesta 4. C. Makelele (447) 5. P. Breitner 6. J. Masopust(59)

@Himannv
 
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Somehow three managers at the top managed to massively feck up my strategy while I don’t even notice the others. Especially those 2 successive FITs to steal to GOAT wingbacks that I was about to pick :lol: