Yes Cina's post was ignored by everyone. There's a reason for that.
The relative strength of the Premier League
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Yes Cina's post was ignored by everyone. There's a reason for that.
They were too busy laughing at you.
You actually opened with "Look at THIS Manchester United team. It is 5th." As if having this poor United team as the 5th best in the land is some sort of achievement for said land.
It only got worse from there.
We have a fantastic squad, that much is evident to anyone.
Edit: and no one was laughing at me. That's the point.
Cina posted that and I think one person laughed. Next he changed the thread name. One person commented no one else did the thread grew and it was embassingly changed back.
The embarassing quotes in this thread are the ones like do.ob posting about stokes financial black hole or some people running to this thread to laud the quality of Dortmund after beating a reserve Tottenham team.
I've contributed quality posts and that is why the thread has grown. Like most of my threads do, if it wasn't for certain posters constantly hating there'd be a much higher level of discourse in the thread.
They actually beat Chelsea but the point stands.
Even more impressive considering Chelsea rested almost their entire XI in their league game a few days earlier against Liverpool. The one where Gerrard slipped.
Yeah mixed them up.
I haven't said that the EL is "beneath Tottenham's level". Instead I said that Poch has clearly prioritised the Prem league over the EL. And by the way, Spurs last won a trophy 8 years ago, not "decades" ago.
Nor is it "horseshit" to say that the Bundlesliga is a weaker league than the Prem. It very clearly is.
PS. Don't get too carried away: Dortmund, playing at home, beat a Spurs B team - a starting XI without eight first XI players - Walker, Rose, Vertonghen, Dier, Alli, Dembele, Lamela and Kane.
Yeah, especially those who watched us last night.
The game yesterday was completely meaningless, but that doesn't change how far away from Dortmund's performance level Spurs are even with your best team.
Oh and I'm sorry, I tend to ignore the league cup because it's such a minor competition, but fair enough. You've won a trophy (or 2?) in the last 25 seasons.
So we lose to a Liverpool team BELOW us in the league and that is proof that... The premier league isn't strong?
But there performance level means nothing if they aren't playing against the same teams.
I've honestly no idea what that means.
I thought you were suggesting Dortmund play better football than Tottemham
I said that means nothing as they don't play in the same league.
You're more confusing than usual.
It's unsurprisingly proof that we aren't "fantastic" as you claimed 2 mins ago.So we lose to a Liverpool team BELOW us in the league and that is proof that... The premier league isn't strong?
How is that proof we aren't fantastic? We played badly?
The logic of that is just ridiculous.
A 5 - 1 aggregate score home and away against Manchester City in the league suggests otherwise, as does our current 2nd place in the league table. And Manchester City, unlike Dortmund, are in the Champion's League and topped their group well clear of Sevilla and ahead of Juventus.
As I've said, I wouldn't get too carried away with last night's result, at home, against a Spurs B team.
Why?
You claimed Dortmund have a higher performance level...
Well obviously if they play in a weaker league that is easier.
Yes, we played badly. We play badly often. We aren't fantastic. Pretty simple stuff.
Maybe they're that good that they make it look easy even though it isn't?
How can we have the players we have and not be considered fantastic? We have potentially the best goalkeeper in the world and players who are considered world class. We have two of the top young talents in the world including the winner of the golden boy award. It's clear we are a strong team, perhaps struggling with an identity and the increasing strength of teams around us.
Maybe but we can't know that can we? You indicated we can tell something from their performance levels, we obviously can't unless it is established both teams are playing similar level of teams.
Is this a serious post? Was United of 2013-14 "fantastic"? Have Chelsea been a "fantastic" team this season? Read what you're posting, and then post the opposite.
Oh my.That's an odd comment from someone who believes he can judge the quality of entire leagues without even watching them.
Is it?
It seems perfectly logical to me.
Again the idea I don't watch other leagues is bizarre as well.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ter-United-Chelsea-Liverpool-Man-City-Arsenal
Speaking of which there was a little debate earlier about young players in the respective leagues. Interesting to see the premier league win out when looked at by objective experts as well.
Speaking of which there was a little debate earlier about young players in the respective leagues. Interesting to see the premier league win out when looked at by objective experts as well.
It seems perfectly logical to you that you can judge the quality of 18 or 20 teams and compare them with each other but illogical that you can judge the quality of 2 teams, who happen to have played regularly in European competitions over the last years?
David Luiz made the FIFA world 11 in 2014.
It seems illogical you can look at the performance level of two teams in different leagues and use it to draw an indication of quality
So did Messi I assume?
Missed the point. Again.
Barcelona or Leicester? Which team is better?
What's the point?
My point is a bunch of experts picked what they regard as the best young players in the world. People who are highly respected in the game said most were playing in the premier league. I can't think of a more objective way of looking at it.
What's your point again?
Barcelona. A simple look at the names in both the squads would tell you that would it not?
Your persistence in trolling is amazing.
You (or that charltons combover guy) have constantly made the worst posts in the thread.
looking forward to slap tottenham around in their own stadium with players like sahin,weidenfeller,castro,pulisic, somehow our second team. so maybe people like twiggi can lean something
btw: last night there were no gündogan, no sokratis, no bürki on the pitch. with weigl there was 20 years old kid on the pitch and was playing like he was in a training session, pure outclassed every tottenham-player.
so much for a "b-team"....
btw: last night there were no gündogan, no sokratis, no bürki on the pitch. with weigl there was 20 years old kid on the pitch and was playing like he was in a training session, pure outclassed every tottenham-player.
so much for a "b-team"....
That a lot of the times these lists are influenced by hype. Now the PL is one of the best leagues around and it could well have the best young players, but I'm not sure about "objective experts" bit. These lists are often poorly put together and skewed in favour of some teams and leagues.
How do you judge two leagues then?
Look at the quality of players in the league?
Why would an article from an Italian (?) newspaper be biased towards the premier league?
But how do you know how good are the players since you don't watch other leagues?