Your post is making little sense, I'm saying Kurosawa's Ran was an adaptation, his version of King Lear, whereas Leone plagiarised Yojimbo frame by frame as Nils said... and the point I made about Nolan was that his Batman was his vision of a comic book character... a character that had been adapted onto screen by many directors. There's a difference between adaptating and plagiarising, which is the point I think Nils was making.
Anyway, Hugo's a good watch, I enjoyed it even though it could've done with being a bit shorter.
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I'm sure someone could tell you the story that Kurosawa's movie is based on, and that story likely is based on yet another.
To which you responded
That was Kurosawa's adaptation of King Lear, like Nolan and Batman. It's hardly the same as plagiarising someone else's vision...
But I was talking about the story "Yojimbo" was based on, not "Ran". It seemed to me you misunderstood.
I haven't seen "Yojimbo" and I didn't see Nilsson's post about it being nearly a shot-for-shot, frame-for-frame copy, that's different than just telling the same story, I was arguing the validity of telling the same story but in different words.
Overall my point is that there is almost nothing new under the sun as far as literature, Leone might have copied "Yojimbo" but that story has it's root, so who is Leone really copying? And the story at the root of "Yojimbo" is probably a variation of an older story, so who gets the credit?
If Leone was being honest that he was re-making "Yojimbo" into a western I don't mind. If he was being dishonest and pretending he didn't copy "Yojimbo" to avoid paying some sort of royalty then that's scummy. Whether there should be a royalty is another question that I think is hard to answer.
As far as Batman, I'm suggesting that if you're either being hired by the people who own Batman or you're paying for the right to use their characters and material then there's not really any question of plagiarism.
My point about Ran is that King Lear it's based on historical events, isn't anyone free to tell a story based on those events? It seemed to me the dialogue wasn't just a copy, so I didn't consider he was plagiarizing, but I could be wrong there. Again, all stories are adaptions of another story, and great stories are often retold, especially in different cultures. And isn't anything as old as Shakespeare under some sort of free use distinction anyway, and generally we welcome an author adapting that story to a modern setting?