Film The Redcafe Movie review thread

I think I have only ever watched two of his films because my son and his mates wanted to see them. 300 was just about OK for what it was. Hated Watchmen and not seen anything else.

Not a Wes Anderson fan at all although I have watched a few of his that were OK. The Life Aquatic irritated the shit out of me though.
 
I think I have only ever watched two of his films because my son and his mates wanted to see them. 300 was just about OK for what it was. Hated Watchmen and not seen anything else.

Not a Wes Anderson fan at all although I have watched a few of his that were OK. The Life Aquatic irritated the shit out of me though.
I think that film was universally misunderstood. I didn’t get it all, whatever vibe he was going for, but oddly enough I was encouraged to watch it again, and then it opened up. It’s now my favorite of his.
 
Not really, if you'll indulge me: the reasons I dislike certain directors' works are generally consistent across these works. Examples: Spielberg's softheaded sentimentality, Tarantino's glorification of violence for its own sake or as comedy, M. Night making slick trash that defies logic, or Ron Howard making any story feel like it was a modestly budgeted made for TV project. The reverse is also true: someone can hate Wes Anderson movies (I happen to love them) and no matter how good a new Wes Anderson movie is, it will still carry all the signifiers of what makes it a Wes Anderson movie. So a friend who hates WA is encouraged by me to see the new film, but the friend is never going to like it regardless because what they actually dislike is what WA specifically brings to the table.

In the case of Audiard, you said you've hated everything they've done. So my question was, why see the next one, or what made you think Audiard would make a great film that transcends what you hate about Audiard and still be an Audiard film?

I saw Once Upon A Time In Hollywood because I didn't want to be the only kid at school who couldn't discuss it. But that's after swearing I'd never see another Tarantino movie after Inglorious Basterds. I was talked into seeing The Hateful Eight - and I absolutely abhorred that film. Then I was talked into seeing OUATIH, and had similar results. The very Tarantinoness of the film is what I hate. It's not the story or the actors/acting, it's the man behind the curtain.

So for Audiard, I'm on the fence. If you said that an earlier film by him was better than Emilia Pérez, I might be inclined to see it based on why you think it's better. If every Audiard film features these large, over the top, quasi-operatic scenes with subpar music, then I'd give it a miss regardless if it was a better example of how that director does things.

There are some directors who make stuff that is so strongly original that the experience is justified even if the product is bad. Examples might be David Lynch, Leo Carax, Julia Ducournau, Atom Egoyan, John Sayles. Directors whose work is worth it for the immersion in their viewpoint, even if artistically/dramatically the films might not pay off.
I thought Un Prophète was better, but not by much, and it's a perfectly forgettable film, despite Niels Arestrup's performance.

As for the rest, there's a few directors whose films I will go out of my way to avoid (people like Snyder, for example), as I don't think they have anything to offer. Audiard, despite me not appreciating his work (and everything I've heard about the guy leads me to believe he's a wanker), I have some time for, because I think there's something under the surface that could materialize with the right material/the right producer, or whatever else. I was hoping that would be Emilia Perez, but alas, that was not to be. Again, I've said this a few times now, I don't regret seeing it, if only for Saldana's performance and the fact I've made up my own opinion about a film that will be in most people's 2024 ranking and will remain (sadly) one of this year's notable films.
 
I thought Un Prophète was better, but not by much, and it's a perfectly forgettable film, despite Niels Arestrup's performance.

As for the rest, there's a few directors whose films I will go out of my way to avoid (people like Snyder, for example), as I don't think they have anything to offer. Audiard, despite me not appreciating his work (and everything I've heard about the guy leads me to believe he's a wanker), I have some time for, because I think there's something under the surface that could materialize with the right material/the right producer, or whatever else. I was hoping that would be Emilia Perez, but alas, that was not to be. Again, I've said this a few times now, I don't regret seeing it, if only for Saldana's performance and the fact I've made up my own opinion about a film that will be in most people's 2024 ranking and will remain (sadly) one of this year's notable films.
It's the hope that kills you. I don't think this movie was award-worthy, and Cannes is always handing out gongs to random films that have no resonance outside of that festival. Saldana was good, though.
 
Carry On

I'm a sucker for tight thrillers. This wasn't tight or thrilling.

Bateman was pretty good, but it was way overlong - really dragged at the start - and felt very much like it was co-written by a Netflix focus group.

4/10
 
Watched Emilia Pérez tonight. Unfamiliar with this director’s previous work, so went in mostly cold. There were a lot of things to like about this film, but the weakest element would be the lack of melody in all but 2 songs. Visually sumptuous film, some terrific images. Saldana was great.

If a person is not inclined to enjoy light opera, they would hate this. I read @Rooney in Paris ’s criticism of how overblown things were as confirmation. Puccini without the hits. It’s supposed to be overwrought and the emotions milked to within an inch of their lives.

The “people are talking” number was the best one for me. The best scene though was when Manitas is selling Saldana on taking the gig and he delivers his lines low and monotone but with a hiphop rhythm.

Film felt too long by about 25 minutes.

Also @Rooney in Paris If you didn’t like previous films by this guy why watch this one? Maybe you get caught up in the hype, same as I do every time I watch a Tarantino movie. I don’t know if I’d see another film by Audiard, this was good but the trailer makes it look a lot better than it really is.

A solid B, B+. 8/10

If you like Westerns, The Sisters Brothers is definitely worth watching. The novel is better than the movie, of course, but the film adaptation is pretty good. Also, for me, lacking a melody is not a problem for music. I liked the music here much more than some classic musicals (I'd rather listen to this soundtrack than Chicago or Moulin Rouge) and a lot of my favorite music doesn't have a traditional "melody".
 
I think I have only ever watched two of his films because my son and his mates wanted to see them. 300 was just about OK for what it was. Hated Watchmen and not seen anything else.

Not a Wes Anderson fan at all although I have watched a few of his that were OK. The Life Aquatic irritated the shit out of me though.

You hate far more films and TV than you like :lol: Maybe watching movies and TV just isn't your thing. Interestingly, one of the few movies you've lauded I absolutely hated myself.

Again, I've said this a few times now, I don't regret seeing it, if only for Saldana's performance and the fact I've made up my own opinion about a film that will be in most people's 2024 ranking and will remain (sadly) one of this year's notable films.

So what movies do you think should be 2024's most notable films?
 
I think Strange Darling is more or less the only thing i remember from this year. Dune 2 was this year too?
I guess i liked Longlegs too.

Strange Darling was in 2023, at least for Hollywood/Los Angeles where I live. I know some movies come out a little later in the UK/Europe though.
 
You hate far more films and TV than you like :lol: Maybe watching movies and TV just isn't your thing. Interestingly, one of the few movies you've lauded I absolutely hated myself.



So what movies do you think should be 2024's most notable films?
I enjoy lots of tv and it has improved hugely. Films not as much and in general film making has declined or at least a far greater percentage is poor.
 
For me Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World by Radu Jude was by far the best film of 2024.

That's another 2023 movie. Had no desire to watch that one because the trailer made it seem like a Woody Allen movie.

I enjoy lots of tv and it has improved hugely. Films not as much and in general film making has declined or at least a far greater percentage is poor.

Declined compared to what era?
 
That's another 2023 movie.
Yeah I guess it counts officially as a 2023 film but didn’t get a UK release date until 2024.

Had no desire to watch that one because the trailer made it seem like a Woody Allen movie.
I wouldn’t say so in my experience. The comedy is darker/political and Ilinca Manolache character is the very opposite of a typical woody Allen film.

It’s also two different films mash together.
 
Strange Darling was in 2023, at least for Hollywood/Los Angeles where I live. I know some movies come out a little later in the UK/Europe though.
The film had its world premiere on September 22, 2023, at Fantastic Fest held in Austin, Texas.[12][13] In February 2024, Magenta Light Studios acquired North American distribution rights to the film.[14]

An early access screening took place at select U.S. theaters on August 14, 2024, followed by an exclusive live-streamed Q&A session from the AMC Lincoln Square 13 Theater with writer-director Mollner, cinematographer Ribisi, and star Fitzgerald, moderated by Carla Gugino.[15] The film opened in Australia on August 22, 2024,[3] followed by a wide U.S. theatrical release[3] on 1,133 screens on August 23, 2024.[16]
 
70s, 80s and 90's for sure.

I feel like some of this is just selective memory and nostalgia. For me at least. For instance, when I read that I thought oh the 80s were clearly the worst decade for movies ever. But then when I looked at a list the 80s had tons of great movies, De Palma's stuff, Harrison Ford (Frantic, Witness, Blade Runner),To Live and Die in LA, Blue Velvet, Thief, Blood Simple. But then the 2020s have had some great ones too: Decision to Leave, Broker, Monster, Only the River Flows, Night in Paradise, Beasts Clawing at Straws, Nightmare Alley, Pig, Love Lies Bleeding. Of course, what are great movies to me might not be to someone else and vice versa but overall, I'd say the ratio of good to bad movies has remained consistent throughout the decades.
 
I feel like some of this is just selective memory and nostalgia. For me at least. For instance, when I read that I thought oh the 80s were clearly the worst decade for movies ever. But then when I looked at a list the 80s had tons of great movies, De Palma's stuff, Harrison Ford (Frantic, Witness, Blade Runner),To Live and Die in LA, Blue Velvet, Thief, Blood Simple. But then the 2020s have had some great ones too: Decision to Leave, Broker, Monster, Only the River Flows, Night in Paradise, Beasts Clawing at Straws, Nightmare Alley, Pig, Love Lies Bleeding. Of course, what are great movies to me might not be to someone else and vice versa but overall, I'd say the ratio of good to bad movies has remained consistent throughout the decades.
It is now rare I see a film that I really enjoy. The best I can remember recently are The Gentleman and Oppenheimer. I gave Anatomy of a Fall a great review but now only have a vague memory of it (no age related jokes allowed).
 
Last edited:
It is now rare I see a film that I really enjoy. The best I can remember recently are The Gentleman and Oppenheimer.

I really liked both of those actually, but neither makes my top 10 of the 2020s. I guess movies are just not your thing. I can always find ones that I enjoy.
 
I really liked both of those actually, but neither makes my top 10 of the 2020s. I guess movies are just not your thing. I can always find ones that I enjoy.
I love movies but so rarely find good ones these days and given how much excellent tv there is I end up watching fewer. Then when I do I wish I hadn't most of the time.
 
I love movies but so rarely find good ones these days and given how much excellent tv there is I end up watching fewer. Then when I do I wish I hadn't most of the time.
I’m with you, Wibz. Movies have gotten dumber, broader, and louder. Trying to crack the Chinese market for a decade and a half caused some of this but also media consolidation made fewer outlets for movies to be made. The rising costs of theatrical releases means that the modest or medium budgeted film that appeals to select demographics are not made, in favor of making mass appeal content. It’s the McDonalds-ification of the film industry.
 
The point about films getting worse, or not as good as in past decades, is lazy revisionism.
So what movies do you think should be 2024's most notable films?
All of us strangers
Love lies bleeding
Megalopolis
Dune
The Substance
Challengers
Civil War
Poor Things
The zone of interest
Kinds of kindness
Wild Robot

I've not yet seen The Brutalist, Conclave or Nosferatu.

I think Past Lives was released in 2023, though I only saw it this year and thought it was great.
 
To me the movie industry has gone the same way as the music industry. The really big money, popular, content is mainly bland and uninteresting. More so than big money, popular content from 20 or 30 years ago. But there seems to be a much greater range of content available than there ever was before. So there’s probably more good/interesting films release in any given year than there ever was before. Certainly loads more than the 80s/90/s/00s.
 
I don't agree with the idea that movies are getting worse either. I did think there was a sort of dip in the second half of the 2010's (bar Parasite), but I think the past three or four years has been great. For me, the noughties is the best decade for film, but that's obviously colored by me being a teenager at the time and getting into film.

But then, I am not surprised that someone thinking there are no great albums on this side of the millenium also thinks that there are very few great films.
 
The point about films getting worse, or not as good as in past decades, is lazy revisionism.

All of us strangers
Love lies bleeding
Megalopolis
Dune
The Substance
Challengers
Civil War
Poor Things
The zone of interest
Kinds of kindness
Wild Robot

I've not yet seen The Brutalist, Conclave or Nosferatu.

I think Past Lives was released in 2023, though I only saw it this year and thought it was great.
I haven't seen all of those but barring The Zone of Interest, that I liked alot but have now virtually forgotten, there isn't one that I loved e.g. Dune was just ok (despite me being a big fan of the director) and Poor Things and Civil War over-hyped mediocrity.
 
I don't agree with the idea that movies are getting worse either. I did think there was a sort of dip in the second half of the 2010's (bar Parasite), but I think the past three or four years has been great. For me, the noughties is the best decade for film, but that's obviously colored by me being a teenager at the time and getting into film.

But then, I am not surprised that someone thinking there are no great albums on this side of the millenium also thinks that there are very few great films.
Because the majority of films and music are now fast food style product. That existed before but there was a huge quantity of superb stuff as well. Now that middle ground between the hugely expanded popcorn cinema and pure arthouse is more or less a wasteland.
 
Because the majority of films and music are now fast food style product. That existed before but there was a huge quantity of superb stuff as well. Now that middle ground between the hugely expanded popcorn cinema and pure arthouse is more or less a wasteland.
But this is just blatantly not true (for music and film). But I guess if you're just looking for food in fast food restaurants, that's what you are gonna get.

While there certainly has been a overall shift from mid budgeted films there's no shortage of good films, you just have to look for them. In music particularly there's more quality made than ever before.

I'd say you either just don't like things anymore regardless of quality (which makes it a you problem) or you haven't changed the way you look for new stuff and still looks for stuff on the charts (where there's clearly been a shift towards the fast food style products you mention).
 
Last edited:
But this is just blatantly not true (for music and film). But I guess if you're just looking for food in fast food restaurants, that's what you are gonna get.
Not at all. I tend to avoid both as they are usually crap.
While there certainly has been a overall shift from mid budgeted films there's no shortage of good films, you just have to look for them.
Where are these good films?
In music particularly there's more quality made than ever before.
Again where? Adele, Ed Sheeran, Taylor Swift etc and almost all rap and hip hop are obviously fast food and to be avoided, but the indie scene now just seems devoid of talent and imagination.
 
I really liked both of those actually, but neither makes my top 10 of the 2020s. I guess movies are just not your thing. I can always find ones that I enjoy.
Yeh I’m easy to please. I go in trying to think what the movie is trying to achieve and enjoy it in that dynamic. Be it a kids movie or a Martin Laurence Comedy, or a batshit crazy action.

This year my favourite movie genuinely was Gladiator 2. Was it the best? Probably not, but it entertained me.
 
But this is just blatantly not true (for music and film). But I guess if you're just looking for food in fast food restaurants, that's what you are gonna get.

While there certainly has been a overall shift from mid budgeted films there's no shortage of good films, you just have to look for them. In music particularly there's more quality made than ever before.

I'd say you either just don't like things anymore regardless of quality (which makes it a you problem) or you haven't changed the way you look for new stuff and still looks for stuff on the charts (where there's clearly been a shift towards the fast food style products you mention).
I wouldn't bother, to be honest. Their mind seems made up and they seem to enjoy moaning in general. There's loads of great films released on a regular basis, and if anything, platforms like Mubi or Filmin have made it infinitely easier to access hidden gems than it was in the past.
 
Where are these good films?
Just from last year we have stuff like Past Lives, Monster, About Dry Grasses and All of us Strangers (there's a lot more). These are excellent films, not just good or very good.
Again where? Adele, Ed Sheeran, Taylor Swift etc and almost all rap and hip hop are obviously fast food and to be avoided, but the indie scene now just seems devoid of talent and imagination.
Isn't this sort of the issue? You mention Adele, Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran, all things you'd find on the charts. If the argument is that there's not a lot of great music on the charts (as it was, for example, in the 70s) then you'd have a point (even though at times there's still great music in there). Beyond that it just doesn't seem like you put in any effort whatsoever to find anything good.
 
Last edited:
Heretic

Another A24 joint. Are they basically making all the movies now? Hugh Grant carries this film. Plays a stuffily polite yet extremely sinister retired university lecturer type in a way that only Hugh Grant could carry off. He invites two Mormon LDS door to door evangelists into his creepy old house and bad stuff happens. The first half is really good. Hugh chews the furniture and the tension slowly ratchets up to an almost unbearable pitch. Then it all gets a little bit silly and the pay off doesn’t quite deliver. Still good fun though. Watch it if you’re a fan of the genre. Or of Hugh Grant.

6/10
 
Heretic

Another A24 joint. Are they basically making all the movies now? Hugh Grant carries this film. Plays a stuffily polite yet extremely sinister retired university lecturer type in a way that only Hugh Grant could carry off. He invites two Mormon LDS door to door evangelists into his creepy old house and bad stuff happens. The first half is really good. Hugh chews the furniture and the tension slowly ratchets up to an almost unbearable pitch. Then it all gets a little bit silly and the pay off doesn’t quite deliver. Still good fun though. Watch it if you’re a fan of the genre. Or of Hugh Grant.

6/10

We enjoyed it but like you say it gets a bit silly second half of the film. The whole Hugh Grant lecture scene when he played the music and ranted about board games was full of suspense as you didn't know where he was going to go with it.

7/10
 
Heretic

Another A24 joint. Are they basically making all the movies now? Hugh Grant carries this film. Plays a stuffily polite yet extremely sinister retired university lecturer type in a way that only Hugh Grant could carry off. He invites two Mormon LDS door to door evangelists into his creepy old house and bad stuff happens. The first half is really good. Hugh chews the furniture and the tension slowly ratchets up to an almost unbearable pitch. Then it all gets a little bit silly and the pay off doesn’t quite deliver. Still good fun though. Watch it if you’re a fan of the genre. Or of Hugh Grant.

6/10

I saw this in the cinema a few weeks back and I'd consider my reaction to be similarish to yours. Excellent first half followed by an ok-to-decent second. Hugh Grant was so damn watchable throughout. Would like to see him take on more roles like that.

I do wonder how I'd rate it the second time around. I don't think the second half is awful by any means, but the opening to middle section is great and a couple of levels above it, by comparison.
 
Just from last year we have stuff like Past Lives, Monster, About Dry Grasses and All of us Strangers (there's a lot more). These are excellent films, not just good or very good.
I haven't seen any of those but I do watch quite a few recommended in this thread and it is rare that I'm not disappointed sadly.
Isn't this sort of the issue? You mention Adele, Taylor Swift and Ed Sheeran, all things you'd find on the charts. If the argument is that there's not a lot of great music on the charts (as it was, for example, in the 70s) then you'd have a point (even though at times there's still great music in there). Beyond that it just doesn't seem like you put in any effort whatsoever to find anything good.
I avoid chart music as it is terrible. Which as you say as part of the problem. Why develop talent when you can clone the same old shit that got streamed last year? I do like some new music from time to time but I can't remember the last time I really enjoyed some new band - not well enough to think about listening to a whole album.
 
The point about films getting worse, or not as good as in past decades, is lazy revisionism.

All of us strangers
Love lies bleeding
Megalopolis
Dune 2

The Substance
Challengers
Civil War
Poor Things
The zone of interest
Kinds of kindness
Wild Robot

I've not yet seen The Brutalist, Conclave or Nosferatu.

I think Past Lives was released in 2023, though I only saw it this year and thought it was great.

I'd agree on the three bold movies. The others definitely show preference differences. I thought some of those were overhyped and did nothing for me (The Substance, Poor Things, Zone of Interest). I have zero interest in trying to watch a few others as I usually don't enjoy romantic/fantasy or biopics (All of Us Strangers, The Brutalist). Then there are ones like Challengers, Civil War, Kinds of Kindness, and Strange Darling (although I had some problems with this one) that I did enjoy for what they were but I wouldn't rate them in the same tier as Emilia Pérez at all. Those ones might fill out of the bottom half of a yearly top 10 but would not get on a any list beyond 2024. For me, Love Lies Bleeding, Emilia Pérez, and (depending on my mood and how I want to define "best") Magalopolis would be contenders for best movies of the 2020s so far. Dune 1+2 are my favorite action movies and blockbuster since 2010 I think, far better for me than some other overhyped movies.

I do want to see Conclave, The End, and Nickel Boys (although I'm sure the novel is better).
 
Last edited:
Just watched and enjoyed Civil War. A 2024 film set in the near future when the US has just 2 states. And one of them Western Front WF is attacking DC in order to kill the President.

Four press reporters want to get to DC to photograph the war and eventually the killing of the President.

It is a highly thought provoking and interesting film. Especially with respect to the recent goings on.
 
I personally feel 2024 has been a step down from 2023 for movies (though, I'm counting All of us Strangers, The Zone of Interest and Poor Things as 2023 movies). As I am in Sweden there's quite a few movies that usually comes out in the first few months of the next year so there's still time to improve on that. Civil War and Dune Part 2 are the best ones for me, with Love Lies Bleeding, Furiousa and I Saw the TV Glow as other notable films. I think only Dune 2 would make it into the top 10 of the decade as of yet, but rather on the lower side of such list. Nothing on the level of a Drive My Car or Aftersun for sure.