Get a grip
I responded in the exact same manner as you - "You will walk through his midfield etc etc"
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Get a grip
I responded in the exact same manner as you - "You will walk through his midfield etc etc"
That's my main dilemma here really. Add to that the fact no one will rate Joya much and I'm up the creek.
Surely you can see Xavi-Tigana would get run over by Stob, can't you? I'm not underrating them, they simply aren't up to the job all by themselves.
It depends who else is picked, without seeing the final teams its hard to say. You've said to me many times that having lots of players in the middle doesn't mean you will dominate, so its certainly not a sure thing.
No more sure than Messi getting the better of Hierro, his agility and dribbling will be too much for him IMO. Hierro was a great player but there are plenty more people who I would call better 'defenders' than him, so you should consider Baresi to counter that I think - Messi is the clear danger point.
Seemed like Joya worked because you explained how well he and Eusebio could work together, removing Eusebio and leaving Joya might be problematic?
It certainly removes some of the familiar/compatible partnership element. The low cross assists or the ones that result from rebounds from his shots would be fine for Ronaldo but he is not a player you would place a high ball to.
I still really like the balance between Joya and Garrincha as he is more the direct, inicisive and tactically disciplined player I need to balance Garrincha's fantasy. I've mentioned before I would only upgrade Joya for Best or Cristiano, maybe Ronnie (a left wing Jairzinho would be better IMO). Now Best may be available (unlikely) but it presents the same issue as Facchetti in that I don't have a 40s opening.
Takes me back to not taking Zanetti in the draft preferring Carlos Alberto's passing array, which seems to have turned out to be irrelevant
Yes we are a pair of cnuts. Cutch has got a banging team though, he'll take some stopping once he irons out the weak links.I share the sentiment, I absolutely hate playing you! Cutch was the last team I wanted though, makes my picking a complete nightmare as instead of taking some risks or looking at improvement areas I need to question players who are perfectly fine in their roles.
I frankly have no idea how I will play this. I'll probably go with some real kamikaze shit just for the sake of it
Taking Ronaldo for Eusebio seems daft to me. I've not seen Ronaldo provide a great vote burst, honestly. He lost a couple of times in the CL draft and now in this draft. He gets treated as a top striker no doubt but still gets underrated and doesn't gets rated the phenomenal player he was, something Messi is rated like. Plus Eusebio is not someone who will lose you any votes IMO. Plenty know him. You have one of the most ultimate vote winners in Garrincha already.
I know exactly what I would do in his place and it would make it a fecking nightmare. Not looking forward to it at all!
I don't need Eusebio not to lose me votes, I need him to win the votes a player of his quality deserves. He won't though. If he is not going to win votes I may as well get Ronaldo and play Eusebio behind him but I doubt most are even remotely aware of Eusebio's style to actually rate that.
Christ, I would rather we had gone blind now
Eusebio is pretty much in the same league as Ronaldo so it would be a silly decision IMO, I guess it might get you more votes but dont think it would be many because everyone knows how great Eusebio was
Yep you'd get slaughtered for the apparent "midfield loss". I personally really don't think it will be a difference of more than a couple of votes. He couldn't win with Xavi, Iniesta and Pirlo feeding him.
The question really is if people know how complete a player he was. One of the options would be him behind Ronaldo. That front four would scream goals but how many know Eusebio occasionally started in midfield? That includes a European Cup final, no less.
If someone can convince people that...
While arguing against the simplicity of Messi upfront? Good luck with that.
Yeah it's a tall order and it's not just Messi, that front 4 is scary.
Yeah, good luck.
Yeah, good luck.
Yeah it's a tall order and it's not just Messi, that front 4 is scary.
Yeah, good luck.
I've already signed up to WW to fill in the spare time I'll have
There's only one Ronaldo. The good one.
Theon you better change that list before someone snaps up Corbatta.
It's not Theon's fault, I forgot to change that in the OP. Sorry.
Just edited, I meant to use the Mourinho phrase.
I should probably wait for Theon to finish his elucubrations before bumming Ronaldo too much though I may yet get a midfielder instead.
I should probably wait for Theon to finish his elucubrations before bumming Ronaldo too much though I may yet get a midfielder instead.
Theon you better change that list before someone snaps up Corbatta.
Busted!
He was perfect as my Garrincha upgrade!!!!!Someone must be really having a ball interacting with Theon right now. I demand all conversations are copied on here later for our enjoyment.
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I reckon it is TITO, he did say he had Theon's pick when I asked him to make the draw.It was Best but he is now facing Stob, which changes everything.
Anto's just trying to get people feeling a bit more positive about Eusébio - crafty bastard. No way he's taking him out for Ronaldo. He didn't get a whole lot of mention in the game in fairness. I'll bite and agree with the rest that it's madness to get rid of the Portuguese king. He's a big plus for me and the wingmen are setting him up all day long.
Theon Gravejoy's melting down
Melting down, melting down
Theon Gravejoy's melting down
He's such a hopeless muppet
Melting down, melting down
Theon Gravejoy's melting down
He's such a hopeless muppet
Irrepressible just didn't have a good ring to it
Behind Ronaldo the striker though, what says you Brwned? I said from the off he wasn't an upgrade as a striker. It would be quite a tasty counter-attacking setup.
Not hearing much of an opinion about Eusebio deeper, which indicates it wouldn't work.
Maybe Theon is right and I should go Baresi if I need to move one of Hierro or Desailly to midfield. I'd rather Lothar in midfield though.
fecking hell, I'm pretty clear on what Brwned could pick but Theon is like a Russian Roulette.
Maybe Theon is right and I should go Baresi if I need to move one of Hierro or Desailly to midfield. I'd rather Lothar in midfield though.
fecking hell, I'm pretty clear on what Brwned could pick but Theon is like a Russian Roulette.
How many rounds are in this next draft ?
2
Schuster and Hierro spraying passes to Ronaldo, Eusébio, Joya and Garrincha? It's a creative use of your pick for sure, I could see the setup playing out nicely indeed. Would mean Stam coming in at centre back presumably. Haven't had a look at your other options but it'd be a big plus for me to see such a clearly defined setup. Pure devastation.
I don't think Baresi's necessary myself.
Two picks. Then after the next game two picks but starting from the top. After that winning semifinalists take one player directly from the beaten semifinalist.
It's Campbell, not Stam, but yups, that's the rough idea. I would have to soak but, frankly, I'm bound to be defending deep against Messi anyway. It would indeed be pure devastation on the break.
At present he has Suurbier-Ayala-Nesta-Alba and likely Mauro Silva staying deep. He will upgrade that a bit, no doubt, but even if his fullbacks stayed pegged back he would be in for a ride alright.
It's a bit of a shame not to come out with it as surprise factor but I've had bad experiences with surprises before!!!!!
I'm stuck.