The Redcafe Decades Draft Tournament

Re : theon, yeah I think he would have played the semi setup again had it not been for the CL limit. And yea don't think there's a big issue with that one. It is interesting he went for Pirlo from the 70s when he could have picked someone whom Xavi would have been delighted to see alongside.
 
That was my other option Aldo, was split between the two which is why I was delayed a tad!

Pirlo is the better player though, and his long range passing is the best I have seen along with Scholes (even better than that other 70's player) which is perfect for the winger system

Plus he's one of my favourite players :)
 
Brwned said:
Welcome back old friend.

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Good one to steal the best striker of the 50's at 7th round. Was gambling for my 8th/9th pick.
 
I have two systems in mind.. Luckily have the personnel for both, but I'm still confused. Trying to pick for both formations...
 
NM said:
I have two systems in mind.. Luckily have the personnel for both, but I'm still confused. Trying to pick for both formations...
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^ tell me about it. Have to confess that at least one player was picked because he's 'too good to be left out'. Now having two minds about the system.
 
Isotope said:
THe bastard!!

The 60's has so many incredible footballers. Wonder why the Caf hasn't done it yet (based on Google search).
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It says nothing about 60s, it's called retro fantasy or something like that.

Here it is, 26 pages. Draft threads used to be shorter without me spamming them :lol:
 
Did KM get a PM? We'd better not miss out on Jayvin being awake!

Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro 7. A. Cole
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc 7. Kopa
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack 7. Hamrin
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets 7. Rivelino 8. Marzolini
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi 7. Essien 8. Vierchowod
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich 7. Cabrini 8. Del Piero
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit 7. Nedved 8. Zambrotta
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff 7. McGrath 8. Evra
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves 7. Terry 8. Lizarazu
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster 7. Junior 8. Luis Enrique
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme 7. Sanchez 8. Dzajic
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos 7. Tigana 8. Pirlo
 
Isotope said:
^ tell me about it. Have to confess that at least one player was picked because he's 'too good to be left out'. Now having two minds about the system.
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Everyone to a man told you Maradona + Iniesta + Baggio didn't make any sense. The problem wasn't the system but the absence of one.
 
:lol: It probably is a bit mental but I would love to see that side play
 
antohan said:
Everyone to a man told you Maradona + Iniesta + Baggio didn't make any sense. The problem wasn't the system but the absence of one.
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Maybe. But there's no fix winning system anyway. I can go with Iniesta-Baggio behind a striker, and Maradona at the cusp of midfield three. Or 4-3-1-2, with Iniesta in CM (as he is at Barca), Maradona in '1' and Baggio as one of the forwards.

Those 3 are exceptional dribblers with great visions, winners, and ultimate team players. WHy having those 3 are a hindrance?
 
Theon said:
:lol: It probably is a bit mental but I would love to see that side play
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:lol: Exactly. Before I picked Iniesta, I was contemplating between him and Gerd Muller. Watched clips of Iniesta, and heart decided to go for him even though the head said Muller.

It's the same with Baggio,


how can you say 'not fit the system' to these two players?
 
Isotope said:
Maybe. But there's no fix winning system anyway. I can go with Iniesta-Baggio behind a striker, and Maradona at the cusp of midfield three. Or 4-3-1-2, with Iniesta in CM (as he is at Barca), Maradona in '1' and Baggio as one of the forwards.

Those 3 are exceptional dribblers with great visions, winners, and ultimate team players. WHy having those 3 are a hindrance?
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It's overkill mate, the addition of many great players does not necessarily result in something as good as the simple sum of parts, let alone more than it. We've been through this before in the all-time draft. Some people defend, some people attack, some people create, some provide width, some do more than one of those. You need to cover all the bases and not have people overlapping doing too much of one thing unnecessarily and bugger all of another. Some of those things because they are necessary, others because they keep your play varied and less predictable, thus harder to defend against.

Let's put it in simple terms. Maradona is a better player than Giggs or Figo, yet given the choice of playing three Maradonas or Maradona with Giggs and Figo you would do the latter. Yes, I know three Maradona's sounds like pure jizz but it just wouldn't be better, it wouldn't, never in a million years. No, really, I know it's Maradonax3 but it really really wouldn't.
 
how can you say 'not fit the system' to these two players?
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I'm not saying they don't fit The System because there's no one true surefire one. I struggle to work out ANY system that could work with them three and get the best out of them. Good luck with that, but my advice would be to think about what you could do dropping one of those (Baggio IMO).

I have all sorts of issues with the 4-3-2-1 you suggested earlier, but agree it is the only way you could realistically fit them all. Doubt it would be very good/balanced though. I'm not making a point of knocking you, there's still time to pick half the squad to make things work. It would be much easier to just shut up and point out all the flaws once you are completely stuck at the end.
 
The last draft winner has Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, and Messi behind the striker. None are actual winger that main duty is hugging the line and provide crosses. They just there, but then loves to come inside. And I don't see why Iniesta, Maradona, and Baggio can't do what those formers do. All are exceptional dribblers, and love to roam anywhere.
 
The best central defender in the world right now. Thiago Silva.
 
Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro 7. A. Cole
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc 7. Kopa
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack 7. Hamrin 8. Thiago Silva
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets 7. Rivelino 8. Marzolini
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi 7. Essien 8. Vierchowod
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich 7. Cabrini 8. Del Piero
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit 7. Nedved 8. Zambrotta
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff 7. McGrath 8. Evra
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves 7. Terry 8. Lizarazu
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster 7. Junior 8. Luis Enrique
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme 7. Sanchez 8. Dzajic
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos 7. Tigana 8. Pirlo[/quote]
 
Need to get someone in from the 80's, so I pick Iker Casillas

Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro 7. A. Cole
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc 7. Kopa 8. Casillas
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack 7. Hamrin 8. T. Silva
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets 7. Rivelino 8. Marzolini
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi 7. Essien 8. Vierchowod
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich 7. Cabrini 8. Del Piero
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit 7. Nedved 8. Zambrotta
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff 7. McGrath 8. Evra
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves 7. Terry 8. Lizarazu
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster 7. Junior 8. Luis Enrique
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme 7. Sanchez 8. Dzajic
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos 7. Tigana 8. Pirlo
 
Isotope said:
The last draft winner has Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, and Messi behind the striker. None are actual winger that main duty is hugging the line and provide crosses. They just there, but then loves to come inside. And I don't see why Iniesta, Maradona, and Baggio can't do what those formers do. All are exceptional dribblers, and love to roam anywhere.
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No one is saying you must have line-hugging players, that team worked overall. You could see what each of the 11 players on the pitch was doing, how they were contributing to the team and had the right attributes to perform the roles assigned to them.

I'm not sure they were all in their favoured positions, but there's leeway there, we can't expect everyone on this to be fully familiar/specialised in the role and formation, it's almost impossible with a multi-decade team. The attribute to perform must be there though and players should complement each other well.

I would separate your issue there in three parts:

1. Both Iniesta and Maradona have a tendency to drift left. Not a biggie, particularly as Maradona will adapt and can/will roam wherever he wants.
2. Baggio doesn't offer you anything that Maradona doesn't already. Great player, but adds nothing you don't already have and they will likely end up getting in each others' way centrally. That's the biggie really.
3. The right/left footedness of all three also indicates they may end up getting in each others' ways unless you position them differently from where people are used to seeing them. I would ignore this as vote-wise it's a killer to start tinkering there.

You could theoretically consider have Baggio as some sort of false 9 with Iniesta and Maradona supporting. It would take a good sale and people would still find it hard to digest something so unfamiliar. It will follow that the players probably find it unfamiliar as well. Yes, great players who could conceivably wrap their heads around different roles than they are used to, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE IS A GREAT PLAYER ON THIS, you are unlikely to find major disparities skills-wise. However marginal you may consider familiarity and proven ability at a role it probably makes the whole difference between winnign and losing a game.

As said, there's some reasonable leeway that needs to be considered. You can't expect an old player to be familiar at all with the diamond, but if the skillset is right then there's an argument for allowing for that. What you are doing is beyond "allowance" and more along the lines of completely making random stuff up unnecessarily.

Will drop it here as you seem quite set anyway and it's not meant as an attack on your team, just food for thought. I just prefer saying these things now than halfway through a game when there's bugger all you can do about it.
 
I'm off, and will leave my picks to Aldo.

Thanks for that post, Anto. Yeah, I'm pretty much set with one formation I have in mind. You might questioning where Baggio will be, but it's only one player, and he'll still in the attacking area. I don't see why Henry, (2 of your countryman strikers), and others could work on the wing forward position, but you see Baggio (similar type, but much superior player) there as a sin and would be a "completely making random stuff up unnecessarily". It seems bizarre.
 
Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro 7. A. Cole 8. Ribery
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc 7. Kopa 8. Casillas
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack 7. Hamrin 8. T. Silva
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets 7. Rivelino 8. Marzolini
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi 7. Essien 8. Vierchowod
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich 7. Cabrini 8. Del Piero
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit 7. Nedved 8. Zambrotta
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff 7. McGrath 8. Evra
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves 7. Terry 8. Lizarazu
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster 7. Junior 8. Luis Enrique
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme 7. Sanchez 8. Dzajic
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos 7. Tigana 8. Pirlo​
 
I agree with antohan re: Baggio, personally. He's completed wasted in the team and you'd be much better off with a proper striker. I wouldn't call Henry and him similar players at all. He's closer to Henry's partner in crime at Arsenal.
 
Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé​
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge​
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri​
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf 8. Vasovic​
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro 7. A. Cole 8. Ribery​
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc 7. Kopa 8. Casillas​
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack 7. Hamrin 8. T. Silva​
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets 7. Rivelino 8. Marzolini​
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi 7. Essien 8. Vierchowod​
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich 7. Cabrini 8. Del Piero​
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit 7. Nedved 8. Zambrotta​
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff 7. McGrath 8. Evra​
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves 7. Terry 8. Lizarazu​
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster 7. Junior 8. Luis Enrique​
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme 7. Sanchez 8. Dzajic​
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos 7. Tigana 8. Pirlo​
 
Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé​
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge​
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri 8. Shilton​
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf 8. Vasovic​
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro 7. A. Cole 8. Ribery​
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc 7. Kopa 8. Casillas​
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack 7. Hamrin 8. T. Silva​
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets 7. Rivelino 8. Marzolini​
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi 7. Essien 8. Vierchowod​
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich 7. Cabrini 8. Del Piero​
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit 7. Nedved 8. Zambrotta​
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff 7. McGrath 8. Evra​
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves 7. Terry 8. Lizarazu​
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster 7. Junior 8. Luis Enrique​
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme 7. Sanchez 8. Dzajic​
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos 7. Tigana 8. Pirlo​
 
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Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé​
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge 8. Alba​
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri 8. Shilton​
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf 8. Vasovic​
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro 7. A. Cole 8. Ribery​
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc 7. Kopa 8. Casillas​
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack 7. Hamrin 8. T. Silva​
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets 7. Rivelino 8. Marzolini​
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi 7. Essien 8. Vierchowod​
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich 7. Cabrini 8. Del Piero​
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit 7. Nedved 8. Zambrotta​
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff 7. McGrath 8. Evra​
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves 7. Terry 8. Lizarazu​
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster 7. Junior 8. Luis Enrique​
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme 7. Sanchez 8. Dzajic​
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos 7. Tigana 8. Pirlo​
 
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