NM vs antohan in the first round with the winner to face Theon please.
The Redcafe Decades Draft Tournament
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He just talks so much shite at times its unbelievable, no idea why because he's a completely sound bloke 99% of the time.
Fair enough, you'll have likely seen him more than i have. Basically it gives me options. I can move them around depending on the opposition.
No it didn't, carry on though
I'm not going back to read that entire thread. there were 2-3 pages of discussion though on Pelé as striker or deeper and Netzer's (lack of) defensive contriibution.
It must have been one of the times you weren't around then.
I have the initial line up from that discussion right now on my screen from that thread. I would post it here but some of the players haven't been picked
In fact I will PM it you, because what you're saying is bollocks.
Yes I can understand your feeling of a strange pick, I agree but was afraid that Busquets would be gone quite fast if I did now take him, and he was one of few from the 80s I like having in the team. There is still this 12th pick and you should know from the last draft that I like having options
I know but if you make a pick this early it would likely be for someone destined to start, particularly when you need a starter from each decade at least. I do think he is one of the top picks from the 80s so can see why he wouldn't last longer, I just didn't think your side needed him at all. Maybe you should aim for another 80s chap behind the striker so you know when Busquets is on he isn't, and viceversa. There you go, dilemma sorted... but then you need two 30s players that can start... It's going to get messy the next few rounds
I know but if you make a pick this early it would likely be for someone destined to start, particularly when you need a starter from each decade at least. I do think he is one of the top picks from the 80s so can see why he wouldn't last longer, I just didn't think your side needed him at all. Maybe you should aim for another 80s chap behind the striker so you know when Busquets is on he isn't, and viceversa. There you go, dilemma sorted... but then you need two 30s players that can start... It's going to get messy the next few rounds
Yeah, I have a plan but let us say.. it´s not bulletproof.
Right.. well I went on search and typed in Netzer and the only post I have ever had which mentioned Netzer was this
antohan said: ↑
That's what I found utterly bizarre about the Netzer pick. Would need to drop KH to play him, so it necessarily implied Pelé was no more than a striker.
Weirdos.
Theon - I didn't pick him, I had no real involvement with either pick because I was busy. IIRC, Fergus advised NM to get Netzer.
So yeah, stop talking shit
Err.. Netzer is unpicked..
Antohan is the one who mentioned him. Look at the post I just quoted
Shite. Netzer, the hidden gem is unveiled.
Mate:
1) Seen the picture, that was not what originated the discussion as you hadn't picked XXX yet. It was that pick which people didn't get at all. IIRC you came back later and said you had had nothing to do with it.
2) Stop sending me PMs under the nadal convo, it's really weird and I have bad memories of that. I was playing werewolf and kept the 1 on my inbox for ages getting all giddy I had been trained as a priest, then opened to find "nadal" with some stuff from you on one of your players. Biggest turn off ever
Ok, over half way now, any thoughts on feelings on my side ?
As per usual I have gone with a sound defensive footing......
As per usual I have gone with a sound defensive footing......
I tried to advise NM about his team because I didn't like it the way he had it, anyway that discussion is long gone.
Was it really worth mentioning unpicked players to bring that up again Anto? Poor form.
Was it really worth mentioning unpicked players to bring that up again Anto? Poor form.
You should read the pages before that then, seems you weren't involved in the discussion but it was all about dropping KH to strengthen midfield with a lazy arse.
I never said it was YOUR idea but that you (i.e. NM/Theon, whoever was in charge or posting at the time) seemed to underrate him.
If he is a hidden gem you haven't done your research. Apologise for mentioning unpicked players though, didn't notice at all.
Antohan is the one who mentioned him. Look at the post I just quoted
No worries, just wrote that to avoid any further names being mentioned in the context of the discussion.
Lost your sarcasm detector, Anto?
I absolutely don't underrate Rummenigge, if anything I overrated him based on feedback - hence why I said that he was underrated in the draft. If you look in your tiers of greatness thread I argued that Rummenigge was underrated in it, so again this is just bollocks.
Maybe you are confusing me and NM but it was his team and not mine, all I did was offer him some advice but I had no input on Netzer. And I was the one who suggested that he pick Rummenigge, thought it was an absolute coup when he got him due to how highly I rate him
I didn't mention him to begin with.
Theon said KH was underrated in the all-time draft and I said it may have been partly due to him being underrated by his managers to begin with. It was him resorting to his usual "you are talking shit" which started the digging up process.
As it turns out I'm not mad and those discussions took place.
I spotted it, just expected others to make the point seriously.
You DID talk shit, as I have never but anything rated Rummenigge extremely highly - hence why I told NM to pick him.Look at the fecking evidence I have posted, you came out with some shite about wanted to drop him for Netzer when I have never mentioned the name 'Netzer' on the forum before today.
Look at me underrating Rummenigge...
Theon, get this into your head: I was referring to you as in the joint management team, whoever was guilty of underrating or whatever I couldn't tell. The point was, if the management doesn't push through/sell that players strongly that doesn't help him not being underrated.
That's all. KH worked wonders in the 50s draft, although admittedly that was a low voter turnout one.
The point overall was Cutch has made a great pick and shouldn't worry about him.
Never mind.
NM picked Kalle on Theons advise, I had advised him differently (something to do with future picks and not liking Tardelli) and thus he got a little undecided, this made it seem like he wasn't sure of his Rummenigge pick and thus your 'his manager underrated him' comments. Theon didnt underate him, he thinks he rates him more than the cafe if anything. That should the last of this discussion.
Seedorf.
I think I can pick him but will someone check his date of birth? I'm snowed under at work abit here.
I think I can pick him but will someone check his date of birth? I'm snowed under at work abit here.
70's so your fine.
Yep he's from the 70s, you're fine.
Look at the fecking evidence I have posted, you came out with some shite about wanted to drop him for Netzer when I have never mentioned the name 'Netzer' on the forum before today.
Pathetic you are even attempted to act like you were right.
fecking hell, you are a broken record aren't you?
Spot the use of the plural. The YOU thereafter refers to the management of that team, whichever of you was behind the discussions as I kept no tally of when it was you or NM arguing.
NM seemed more willing to acknowledge what went wrong earlier in this thread:
But no, I'm the one talking shit.
Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos
Ashely Cole.
Sneaks into the 80s.
Sneaks into the 80s.
Get this into your fecking head - me and NM are different people, it was his team and I was only giving him advice on what to do. You've made two completely bollocks comments
1) I underrate Rummenigge, where? Post the comments from me that do that - here is a few from me saying your talking shite
2) I wanted to drop him for Netzer - I have never even mentioned the blokes name before you started lying today. My only comment about Netzer was this one
antohan said: ↑
That's what I found utterly bizarre about the Netzer pick. Would need to drop KH to play him, so it necessarily implied Pelé was no more than a striker.
Weirdos.
Theon - I didn't pick him, I had no real involvement with either pick because I was busy. IIRC, Fergus advised NM to get Netzer.
Theon, you have a problem with reading comprehension and automatically assuming anything is a personal attack on you.
I said countless times it could be you or NM, it was never my point that it was you specifically but the management of that team. I clarified it countless times in my posts from the moment you overreacted.
End of.
I said countless times it could be you or NM, it was never my point that it was you specifically but the management of that team. I clarified it countless times in my posts from the moment you overreacted.
End of.
Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro 7. A. Cole
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc 7. Kopa
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem 7. Seedorf
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro 7. A. Cole
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc 7. Kopa
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos
I bet half the managers had him down but kept trying to squeeze one more round out of him. Many players in that situation IMO.
The next few rounds will be absolute carnage in that sense.
Cole and Kopa two players I was considering last pick! good picks.
Anto just goes a bit nuts in the draft threads.. No need to even bring up old drafts, and mention unpicked players. And I would rather NOT play him all the way as I can't keep up with how much he posts. Anyway, I'm out of this. Keep this fun, and let's not turn this into a slanging match.
Would have liked to pick Cole later but there are too many teams out there needing left backs.
Was seriously tempted by Kopa myself. Out of interest, what would the reaction had been if I played him wide right like he did at Madrid?
Was seriously tempted by Kopa myself. Out of interest, what would the reaction had been if I played him wide right like he did at Madrid?