The Redcafe Decades Draft Tournament


Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos
 
Claudio Gentille
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Claude Makélélé
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Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos
 
I have been thinking about my last pick of Busquets and this is one idea I have so far but not sure what I will do from now on.

What do people think of this?

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Arguably Germanys greatest player post Beckenbeur, and Breitners partner in crime (forming Breitnigge). Balon D'Or winner 2 years in a row in 1980 and 1981, Karl Heinz Rummenigge




Heres the 2 on hearing they've been re-united



Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos
 
The last 8 or so picks have all been awesome, Forster, Cannavaro and Gentile are all top class CB's and Paceme picked a cracker in Van Hanegem
 
Rummenigge is quality but he was a bit underrated in the AllTime one IMO when we had him

Also not seeing exactly how he is fitting into that side with Messi, Rivera and Stoichkov - looks like a Messi on the right wing job which isnt ideal
 
EDogen said:
I have been thinking about my last pick of Busquets and this is one idea I have so far but not sure what I will do from now on.

What do people think of this?

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This is what I thought you were going for when I called it strange. Defensively you already had enough in your locker with the other two and now you are very reliant on two wingers you don't actually have. I would have left that pick until a later round myself, but I guess with Ronaldo up top you can afford to experiment.
 
Cutch said:
Arguably Germanys greatest player post Beckenbeur, and Breitners partner in crime (forming Breitnigge). Balon D'Or winner 2 years in a row in 1980 and 1981, Karl Heinz Rummenigge

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Awesome pick. I bet Stob is quite jealous having gone more "defence first" this time around.
 
Theon said:
Rummenigge is quality but he was a bit underrated in the AllTime one IMO when we had him

Also not seeing exactly how he is fitting into that side with Messi, Rivera and Stoichkov - looks like a Messi on the right wing job which isnt ideal
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It's perfect, Stoichkov left, Messi central and Rummenigge right, all capable swapping positions too. Rivera playmaking from a little deeper.
 
Fergus' son said:
It's perfect, Stoichkov left, Messi central and Rummenigge right, all capable swapping positions too. Rivera playmaking from a little deeper.
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Rivera was an attacking midfielder so you've missed him out there.

If you were doing it like that I think it would be Stoichkov left, Rivera in AM, Rummenigge right and Messi up front
 
Theon said:
Rummenigge is quality but he was a bit underrated in the AllTime one IMO when we had him

Also not seeing exactly how he is fitting into that side with Messi, Rivera and Stoichkov - looks like a Messi on the right wing job which isnt ideal
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Either

Stoitchkov ----Rummenigge---Messi

or whats probably more likely

Rummenigge---Messi---Stoitchkov


I like interchangeable forwards. Messi is going to roam so wanted to have players that are flexible and Stoitchkov and Rummenigge can really play anywhere across the front line. Both are technically strong aswell to help the link up. Rummenigge gives me something a bit different to the other 2 should i need it, can play as a more old fashioned centre forward. Rivera will play deeper.
 
Theon said:
Rummenigge is quality but he was a bit underrated in the AllTime one IMO when we had him
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Not least by yourselves. You kept wanting to play Pelé up front in a 4-4-2 because Rummenigge wouldn't be enough IIRC. This with wide men better suited to playing further up the pitch. You really had no idea about the personnel you had at your disposal, just seemed to have picked players who had done well in previous drafts and then completely misused them.

Cutch can play Rummenigge CF or RF subject to what the oppo has to offer at LB. A weak left back and it would be Messi there all day long.
 
antohan said:
Not least by yourselves. You kept wanting to play Pelé up front in a 4-4-2 because Rummenigge wouldn't be enough IIRC. This with wide men better suited to playing further up the pitch. You really had no idea about the personnel you had at your disposal, just seemed to have picked players who had done well in previous drafts and then completely misused them.

Cutch can play Rummenigge CF or RF subject to what the oppo has to offer at LB. A weak left back and it would be Messi there all day long.
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You don't have talk some shit Antohan, that never happened.
 
Theon said:
Rivera was an attacking midfielder so you've missed him out there.

If you were doing it like that I think it would be Stoichkov left, Rivera in AM, Rummenigge right and Messi up front
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Fergus got it spot on there. Rivera would be pulling the strings deeper relative to the three upfront, not an AM positioned as a support striker.
 
Theon said:
Rivera was an attacking midfielder so you've missed him out there.

If you were doing it like that I think it would be Stoichkov left, Rivera in AM, Rummenigge right and Messi up front
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That's pretty much what I said, Riveras a fantastic playmaker IMO, wouldn't pigeon hole him as purely an offensive mid or support striker.
 
Cutch said:
Either

Stoitchkov ----Rummenigge---Messi

or whats probably more likely

Rummenigge---Messi---Stoitchkov


I like interchangeable forwards. Messi is going to roam so wanted to have players that are flexible and Stoitchkov and Rummenigge can really play anywhere across the front line. Both are technically strong aswell to help the link up. Rummenigge gives me something a bit different to the other 2 should i need it, can play as a more old fashioned centre forward. Rivera will play deeper.
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First one seems more likely to me, why would you put Hristo and Kalle on their opposite sides?
 
Fergus' son said:
Riveras a fantastic playmaker IMO...
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Of course he is, when did I say otherwise?

Basically I would have preferred to see Messi in this system with a more natural winger than Rummenigge who I wouldn't stick out there.

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Stoichkov------------ Right winger
 
When Rummenigge won those awards, he was as second striker, or behind 2 forwards with Germany. Can't see him as CF. But I can see it could work with Messi the false 9, though.
 
Theon said:
Of course he is, when did I say otherwise?

Basically I would have preferred to see Messi in this system with a more natural winger than Rummenigge who I wouldn't stick out there.

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Stoichkov------------ Right winger
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Rummenigge won the ballon dor off the back of a season where he played mainly as a right forward, he's a great option there, better than any rw that Messi has ever played with before and just as suited. Probably needs an appropriate right back now though.

Rivera is ideal in the set up IMO.
 
Where would be the best place to play Sammer? As part of a midfield 3 with Scholes or Socrates? Or as a more conventional centre-back?
 
VP said:
Where would be the best place to play Sammer? As part of a midfield 3 with Scholes or Socrates? Or as a more conventional centre-back?
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Either is fine as far as I'm concerned. Depends on what you can get for the remaining positions.
 
Isotope : 1. Maradona 2. Moore 3. Iniesta 4. Baggio 5. Krol 6. Gentille 7. Makélélé
Cutch : 1. Messi 2. Breitner 3. Nesta 4. Rivera 5. Stoitchkov 6. Gregg 7. Rummenigge
Stobzilla : 1. Pele 2. Rivaldo 3. Keane 4. Lahm 5. Batistuta 6. Forster 7. Ruggeri
paceme : 1. Cruyff 2. Van Basten 3. Koeman. 4. Cerezo 5. De Boer 6. Van Hanegem
kps88 : 1. Platini 2. Neeskens 3. Kohler 4. Vogts 5. Vieira 6. Cannavaro
Jayvin : 1. Best 2. Robson 3. Giggs 4. Cafu 5. Law 6. Blanc
KM : 1. Beckenbauer, 2. Schnellinger 3. Laudrup 4. Romario 5. Stam 6. Ballack
EDogen : 1. Ronaldo, 2. Maldini 3. Falcão 4. Thuram 5. Tardelli 6. Busquets
Gio : 1. Baresi 2. Charles 3. Facchetti 4. Davids 5. Boniek 6. Hagi
Fergus' son : 1. Matthaus 2. Scirea 3. Redondo 4. Zanetti 5. Eto'o 6. Burgnich
AldoRaine18 : 1. Rijkaard 2. Zico 3. Muller 4. Vidic 5. Hansen 6. Gullit
VP : 1. C Ronaldo 2. Gento 3. Scholes 4. Socrates 5. Sammer 6. Zoff
NM : 1. Zidane 2. Figueroa 3. Luis Suarez 4. Souness 5. Henry 6. Alves
antohan : 1. Garrincha 2. Eusebio 3. Desailly 4. Carlos Alberto 5. Hierro 6. Schuster
Brwned : 1. Edwards 2. Charlton 3. Figo 4. Ferdinand 5. Bergomi 6. Brehme
Theon : 1. Ronaldinho 2. Xavi 3. Passarella 4. Jairzinho 5. Banks 6. R. Carlos
 
antohan said:
This is what I thought you were going for when I called it strange. Defensively you already had enough in your locker with the other two and now you are very reliant on two wingers you don't actually have. I would have left that pick until a later round myself, but I guess with Ronaldo up top you can afford to experiment.
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Yes I can understand your feeling of a strange pick, I agree but was afraid that Busquets would be gone quite fast if I did now take him, and he was one of few from the 80s I like having in the team. There is still this 12th pick and you should know from the last draft that I like having options :) I may end up with another formation and maybe even mr Sergio on the bench in the end, all depending on what happens. I have had thoughts of 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 and even 4-1-2-1-2.
 
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