The Redcafe Champions League Draft

[Cutch]

Yeah, was actually looking up to see if what I was saying was right and am shocked at the distinct lack of quality right wingers.

Come on though, surely you would take Cristiano ahead of Ozil? Spooky, Ronaldinho and Cristiano again for you?

Well yeah Cristiano aswell but theres so many places you can play him that we possibly wouldn't have him on the right. I didn't have Ronaldinho the last time, it was Best! Dan Nistelrooy you're thinking of

 

[antohan]

Of course, that was Dan, and we had this whole argument about Ronaldinho and Cristiano engaging in a tekkers contest and completely forgetting the point of a football match

Cristiano is the standout on a right flank, there are similar standard players for other positions but none out there. Figo is the closest you can get.

 

[Snow]

Not much of an issue, your assistant seems upset that I said I don't really like him at RB though?

This is a really pathetic post.

 

[Buchan]

Sorry for the wait, gents. I had a masterplan that's been thrown into disarray with my faux-pas regarding Ayala. I'll post my pick momentarily.

 

[Fergus' son]

Its like having Winterburn, Adams and Bould then having some random bloke at right back.

If its a choice between Dixon, or say G.Neville or Cafu, I'd still opt for the better defender in Neville, despite the lack of connection. Though it helps that Dixon is actually a RB and not a CB...

Would you rather say Hughes partner with Cantona or would you go for Shearer/Cantona hypothetically?

 

[NM]

Sorry for the wait, gents. I had a masterplan that's been thrown into disarray with my faux-pas regarding Ayala. I'll post my pick momentarily.

Happens to all of us mate.

 

[antohan]

If its a choice between Dixon, or say G.Neville or Cafu, I'd still opt for the better defender in Neville, despite the lack of connection. Though it helps that Dixon is actually a RB and not a CB...

You wouldn't ever dismantle that Arsenal back four. Bar Adams they weren't exceptional, but they were superb as a unit. Dixon ahead of Neville, no question. I would be tempted to say ahead of Cafú as well seeing as Graham wouldn't have known what to do with a player like Cafú. But nah, who am I kidding there? It's Cafu.

 

[Cutch]

If its a choice between Dixon, or say G.Neville or Cafu, I'd still opt for the better defender in Neville, despite the lack of connection. Though it helps that Dixon is actually a RB and not a CB...

Would you rather say Hughes partner with Cantona or would you go for Shearer/Cantona hypothetically?

Well i think particularly in defence its good to have the connection there, at least theres evidence rather than just assumptions that players can play together.

Theres many examples of players that are naturals in one position but play different positions out of necessity and with a lot of success. I'll remind you of a few at the end of this draft as some havn't been picked yet. Thuram was a decent example used earlier. He would have been a centrehalf for France but for Desailly and Blancs partnership there.

 

[Nighteyes]

Players of the cafu and Neville caliber aren't available anyway so Gallas made plenty of sense to finish of the backline

 

[Fergus' son]

You wouldn't ever dismantle that Arsenal back four. Bar Adams they weren't exceptional, but they were superb as a unit. Dixon ahead of Neville, no question. I would be tempted to say ahead of Cafú as well seeing as Graham wouldn't have known what to do with a player like Cafú. But nah, who am I kidding there? It's Cafu.

So you would dismantle it for the right player, there you go.

Anyway, the point was that not only is Gallas inferior to other options IMO, but also he'll cost votes as someone that's known as a cb playing RB.

Let's leave it from now on, people are awfully sensitive about their team. Rip into mine all you want, I wont give a feck.

 

[Buchan]

Alright, folks. Sorry for the delay. I am going for Eric Abidal. Left-sided centre-back who is also perfect for covering Lizarazu's forward runs. Pacy, strong in the air and in the tackle, and technically sound. Forming partnerships with fellow ex-France international Abidal and both ex-Barcelona clubmates Xavi and Busquets, he suits my formation and personnel very well.

 

[Buchan]

The Game: 1. Zidane 2. Seedorf 3. Shevchenko 4. Frank De Boer 5. Pires 6. Cocu 7. Ze Roberto
JakeC: 1. Messi 2. Cantona 3. Buffon 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Xabi Alonso 6. Puyol 7. Mascherano
kps88: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Kohler 3. Davids 4. Vieri 5. Riquelme 6. Costacurta 7. Cambiasso
Thisistheone: 1. Ronaldo 2. Desailly 3. Rui Costa 4. Blanc 5. Essien 6. Dani Alves 7. Rooney
Ralaks: 1. Keane 2. Del Piero 3. Effenberg 4. Beckham 5. Overmars 6. Ramos 7. Trezeguet
nahealai: 1. Xavi 2. Raúl 3. van Nistelrooy 4. Ballack 5. Busquets 6. Lizarazu 7. Irwin 8. Abidal
Stobzilla: 1. Henry 2. Stam 3. Totti 4. Gerrard 5. Veron 6. Mata 7. G. Neville 8. Mijatovic
Feeky: 1. Maldini 2. Scholes 3. Bergkamp 4. Deschamps 5. Ibrahimovic 6. Y. Touré 7. David Silva 8. Lúcio
akash02: 1. Romario 2. Cannavaro 3. Hagi 4. Guardiola 5. Lahm 6. McManaman 7. Petit 8. Chiellini
Gio: 1. Rivaldo 2. Nedved 3. Ferdinand 4. Zanetti 5. Fabregas 6. Zambrotta 7. Montero 8. Joaquin
Snow: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Kaka 3. Mendieta 4. Terry 5. Carvalho 6. A. Cole 7. Ozil 8. Gallas
Isotope: 1. Redondo 2. Ribery 3. Eto'o 4. Albertini 5. Campbell 6. Boban 7. Forlan 8. Angloma
EDogen: 1. Nesta 2. Giggs 3. Hierro 4. Van Persie 5. Enrique 6. Robben 7.Evra 8. Ferrara
Theon: 1. Iniesta 2. Pirlo 3. Cafu 4. Gattuso 5. De Rossi 6. Crespo 7. Aguero 8. Silva
Fergus'son: 1. Batistuta 2. Thuram 3. Ayala 4. Makelele 5. Schweinsteiger 6. Möller 7. Villa 8. Muller
BD/NM: 1. Vieira 2. Figo 3. Vidic 4. Drogba 5.Lampard 6. Popescu 7. Maicon 8. Gilberto


Ralaks is up now. I'll PM him there.​

 

[antohan]

Thisistheone:6. Dani Alves
Ralaks: 6. Ramos (RB?????)
nahealai: 7. Irwin
Stobzilla: 7. G. Neville
akash02: 5. Lahm
Gio: 4. Zanetti 6. Zambrotta
Snow: 8. Gallas
Isotope: 8. Angloma
Theon: 3. Cafu
Fergus'son: 2. Thuram
BD/NM: 7. Maicon

Lots of people still haven't picked one. There is indeed at least one obvious and arguably better option but none that I can think of who haven't won the CL.

If you look at the above Gallas in round 8 looks about right. Zambrotta and Angloma stand out as cracking picks.

 

[Buchan]

Indeed, the obvious right-back is, er, obvious.

 

[Thisistheone]

Alves is a good pick imo. Been the best right back for the last few years

 

[Snow]

There's only 5 right backs left on my radar and one of them would be considered better than Gallas at right back individually. Problem is he isn't proven with this defense as a unit and he's also won the CL.

 

[Ralaks]

Alright going with Gerard Pique, has won everything there is to win (including world cup and euro cup together with Ramos in defense (yeah Ramos played right back during the WC), plus he is bedding Shakira.

 

[Snow]

Alves is a good pick imo. Been the best right back for the last few years

For your team there's hardly anyone better since he's providing a lot of the width (at the moment at least).

 

[antohan]

Alves is a good pick imo. Been the best right back for the last few years

Not bad at all no, but non-CL Zambrotta in the same round is clearly better.

 

[Ralaks]

The Game: 1. Zidane 2. Seedorf 3. Shevchenko 4. Frank De Boer 5. Pires 6. Cocu 7. Ze Roberto
JakeC: 1. Messi 2. Cantona 3. Buffon 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Xabi Alonso 6. Puyol 7. Mascherano
kps88: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Kohler 3. Davids 4. Vieri 5. Riquelme 6. Costacurta 7. Cambiasso
Thisistheone: 1. Ronaldo 2. Desailly 3. Rui Costa 4. Blanc 5. Essien 6. Dani Alves 7. Rooney
Ralaks: 1. Keane 2. Del Piero 3. Effenberg 4. Beckham 5. Overmars 6. Ramos 7. Trezeguet 8. Pique
nahealai: 1. Xavi 2. Raúl 3. van Nistelrooy 4. Ballack 5. Busquets 6. Lizarazu 7. Irwin 8. Abidal
Stobzilla: 1. Henry 2. Stam 3. Totti 4. Gerrard 5. Veron 6. Mata 7. G. Neville 8. Mijatovic
Feeky: 1. Maldini 2. Scholes 3. Bergkamp 4. Deschamps 5. Ibrahimovic 6. Y. Touré 7. David Silva 8. Lúcio
akash02: 1. Romario 2. Cannavaro 3. Hagi 4. Guardiola 5. Lahm 6. McManaman 7. Petit 8. Chiellini
Gio: 1. Rivaldo 2. Nedved 3. Ferdinand 4. Zanetti 5. Fabregas 6. Zambrotta 7. Montero 8. Joaquin
Snow: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Kaka 3. Mendieta 4. Terry 5. Carvalho 6. A. Cole 7. Ozil 8. Gallas
Isotope: 1. Redondo 2. Ribery 3. Eto'o 4. Albertini 5. Campbell 6. Boban 7. Forlan 8. Angloma
EDogen: 1. Nesta 2. Giggs 3. Hierro 4. Van Persie 5. Enrique 6. Robben 7.Evra 8. Ferrara
Theon: 1. Iniesta 2. Pirlo 3. Cafu 4. Gattuso 5. De Rossi 6. Crespo 7. Aguero 8. Silva
Fergus'son: 1. Batistuta 2. Thuram 3. Ayala 4. Makelele 5. Schweinsteiger 6. Möller 7. Villa 8. Muller
BD/NM: 1. Vieira 2. Figo 3. Vidic 4. Drogba 5.Lampard 6. Popescu 7. Maicon 8. Gilberto

 

[Buchan]

The Game: 1. Zidane 2. Seedorf 3. Shevchenko 4. Frank De Boer 5. Pires 6. Cocu 7. Ze Roberto
JakeC: 1. Messi 2. Cantona 3. Buffon 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Xabi Alonso 6. Puyol 7. Mascherano
kps88: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Kohler 3. Davids 4. Vieri 5. Riquelme 6. Costacurta 7. Cambiasso
Thisistheone: 1. Ronaldo 2. Desailly 3. Rui Costa 4. Blanc 5. Essien 6. Dani Alves 7. Rooney
Ralaks: 1. Keane 2. Del Piero 3. Effenberg 4. Beckham 5. Overmars 6. Ramos 7. Trezeguet 8. Piqué
nahealai: 1. Xavi 2. Raúl 3. van Nistelrooy 4. Ballack 5. Busquets 6. Lizarazu 7. Irwin 8. Abidal
Stobzilla: 1. Henry 2. Stam 3. Totti 4. Gerrard 5. Veron 6. Mata 7. G. Neville 8. Mijatovic
Feeky: 1. Maldini 2. Scholes 3. Bergkamp 4. Deschamps 5. Ibrahimovic 6. Y. Touré 7. David Silva 8. Lúcio
akash02: 1. Romario 2. Cannavaro 3. Hagi 4. Guardiola 5. Lahm 6. McManaman 7. Petit 8. Chiellini
Gio: 1. Rivaldo 2. Nedved 3. Ferdinand 4. Zanetti 5. Fabregas 6. Zambrotta 7. Montero 8. Joaquin
Snow: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Kaka 3. Mendieta 4. Terry 5. Carvalho 6. A. Cole 7. Ozil 8. Gallas
Isotope: 1. Redondo 2. Ribery 3. Eto'o 4. Albertini 5. Campbell 6. Boban 7. Forlan 8. Angloma
EDogen: 1. Nesta 2. Giggs 3. Hierro 4. Van Persie 5. Enrique 6. Robben 7.Evra 8. Ferrara
Theon: 1. Iniesta 2. Pirlo 3. Cafu 4. Gattuso 5. De Rossi 6. Crespo 7. Aguero 8. Silva
Fergus'son: 1. Batistuta 2. Thuram 3. Ayala 4. Makelele 5. Schweinsteiger 6. Möller 7. Villa 8. Muller
BD/NM: 1. Vieira 2. Figo 3. Vidic 4. Drogba 5.Lampard 6. Popescu 7. Maicon 8. Gilberto

Tito's up.

 

[JakeC]

aaggghhh hurry up.

 

[Ralaks]

...
Ralaks: 6. Ramos (RB?????)

...

Lots of people still haven't picked one. There is indeed at least one obvious and arguably better option but none that I can think of who haven't won the CL.

If you look at the above Gallas in round 8 looks about right. Zambrotta and Angloma stand out as cracking picks.

Not really sure yet where I'll field him, for me he is equally good in both positions really, it kinda depends (obviously) on how the next rounds go, I've got a certain right back in mind I'd love but you never know in these drafts.

 

[Thisistheone]

For your team there's hardly anyone better since he's providing a lot of the width (at the moment at least).

Indeed. He solves a big problem for the side in that regard

Not bad at all no, but non-CL Zambrotta in the same round is clearly better.

Zambrotta got picked before I could get him but agree. Plus he can play on either side. Gio played a blinder there.

 

[Fergus' son]

Thisistheone:6. Dani Alves
Ralaks: 6. Ramos (RB?????)
nahealai: 7. Irwin
Stobzilla: 7. G. Neville
akash02: 5. Lahm
Gio: 4. Zanetti 6. Zambrotta
Snow: 8. Gallas
Isotope: 8. Angloma
Theon: 3. Cafu
Fergus'son: 2. Thuram
BD/NM: 7. Maicon

Lots of people still haven't picked one. There is indeed at least one obvious and arguably better option but none that I can think of who haven't won the CL.

If you look at the above Gallas in round 8 looks about right. Zambrotta and Angloma stand out as cracking picks.

Angloma was a great pick, seriously hadn't even thought about him until Iso picked!

 

[Feeky Magee]

Fergus'son has this rigged, he's made his late-rounders in a slightly bigger font so they stand out.

 

[Thisistheone]

Taking Paulo Sousa

 

[JakeC]

Alright going with Gerard Pique, has won everything there is to win (including world cup and euro cup together with Ramos in defense (yeah Ramos played right back during the WC), plus he is bedding Shakira.

You cnut!!!

 

[antohan]

aaggghhh hurry up.

 

[Fergus' son]

Ah, was hoping I might get him in the 12th round!

Sousa that is.

 

[JakeC]

There's only 5 right backs left on my radar and one of them would be considered better than Gallas at right back individually. Problem is he isn't proven with this defense as a unit and he's also won the CL.

Stop giving clues ffs.

 

[Stobzilla]

You cnut!!!

I know that feeling.

 

[Snow]

Forgot that there are 12 rounds :/

 

[Buchan]

The Game: 1. Zidane 2. Seedorf 3. Shevchenko 4. Frank De Boer 5. Pires 6. Cocu 7. Ze Roberto
JakeC: 1. Messi 2. Cantona 3. Buffon 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Xabi Alonso 6. Puyol 7. Mascherano
kps88: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Kohler 3. Davids 4. Vieri 5. Riquelme 6. Costacurta 7. Cambiasso
Thisistheone: 1. Ronaldo 2. Desailly 3. Rui Costa 4. Blanc 5. Essien 6. Dani Alves 7. Rooney 8. Paulo Sousa
Ralaks: 1. Keane 2. Del Piero 3. Effenberg 4. Beckham 5. Overmars 6. Ramos 7. Trezeguet 8. Piqué
nahealai: 1. Xavi 2. Raúl 3. van Nistelrooy 4. Ballack 5. Busquets 6. Lizarazu 7. Irwin 8. Abidal
Stobzilla: 1. Henry 2. Stam 3. Totti 4. Gerrard 5. Veron 6. Mata 7. G. Neville 8. Mijatovic
Feeky: 1. Maldini 2. Scholes 3. Bergkamp 4. Deschamps 5. Ibrahimovic 6. Y. Touré 7. David Silva 8. Lúcio
akash02: 1. Romario 2. Cannavaro 3. Hagi 4. Guardiola 5. Lahm 6. McManaman 7. Petit 8. Chiellini
Gio: 1. Rivaldo 2. Nedved 3. Ferdinand 4. Zanetti 5. Fabregas 6. Zambrotta 7. Montero 8. Joaquin
Snow: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Kaka 3. Mendieta 4. Terry 5. Carvalho 6. A. Cole 7. Ozil 8. Gallas
Isotope: 1. Redondo 2. Ribery 3. Eto'o 4. Albertini 5. Campbell 6. Boban 7. Forlan 8. Angloma
EDogen: 1. Nesta 2. Giggs 3. Hierro 4. Van Persie 5. Enrique 6. Robben 7.Evra 8. Ferrara
Theon: 1. Iniesta 2. Pirlo 3. Cafu 4. Gattuso 5. De Rossi 6. Crespo 7. Aguero 8. Silva
Fergus'son: 1. Batistuta 2. Thuram 3. Ayala 4. Makelele 5. Schweinsteiger 6. Möller 7. Villa 8. Muller
BD/NM: 1. Vieira 2. Figo 3. Vidic 4. Drogba 5.Lampard 6. Popescu 7. Maicon 8. Gilberto

Kps is up.

 

[antohan]

Taking Paulo Sousa

I really like him, but I now officially have no idea where you are going with this draft.

 

[antohan]

Stop giving clues ffs.

Don't worry Jake, he is not a kps kind of player.

 

[JakeC]

If KPS does what I think he's going to do, I'm going to have a stroke.

 

[Snow]

Stop giving clues ffs.

You worried you won't get him? Checking out the CL winners I would have thought was standard procedure. My apologies.

 

[antohan]

You cnut!!!

You didn't know Pique was bedding Shakira?

 

[Thisistheone]

I really like him, but I now officially have no idea where you are going with this draft.

Good. Keeping my cards close and all that.