Its just one of those things. The problem is that the top guys are so inactive that when a fight is delayed it means it annoyingly extends the time period of when we see them in the ring. If they actually fought 4/5/6 times a year then fair enough. But if you're fighting once every 6/7 months and the fight is cancelled then its frustrating.
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I think it's annoying because of all the delays and shit that we have had to deal with in the HW division. There was no need for the Ngannou fight for example.
The only other person Fury could fight in the HW division is Joshua and he was never going to do that before unifying the belts.
Could also say the same that there's no point Joshua fighting Ngannou himself. Wallin and then Ngannou just says that he's trying desperately to show Fury he's better than him, as Fury was poor against them both. If Joshua wants to show everyone he's serious, he should be going up against Zhang.
Joshua can’t afford another loss though and he knows it. He has to show people he’s serious….without getting knocked out cold by Zhang
Zhang would beat the robot imo has too much firepower.
when you spend your life as a duck, people don’t always believe you when you say you didn’t quack.
There isn't. Fury could have fought Usyk sooner. He didn't and did Ngannou instead. That's what annoys people. The merry go round.
I reckon this strategy is going to backfire. I think Fury’s on the decline and considering the abuse he’s put his body through that decline could be quite steep.
Usyk on the other hand is eating like a monk and doing handstands on his dick.
Just seems harsh in this instance where he’s sporting a ravine across his eye. Can’t do a thing with that until it fully heels otherwise we’ll have a Vlad face when his bout was called with
Sounds like he’d get grief for that too!
Rescheduled for 18th May.
Usyk camp have gotten right under Fury's skin
Just seems like Fury is a bit wound being portrayed as a ducker and this injury has just played into those people's hands who claim he is.
Obviously he is still a headcase though and playing up to the camera but he seems to have lost a lot of support lately due to his antics.
I rarely see anyone supporting Fury these days.
Sorry why is Sky Sports so pro Azeez?? Obvious knock down
How can he fight with a cut like that? Answer is he can't. Wise up.
What a dickhead. Show a bit of humility, it’s your fault the fight isn’t happening
There’s been rumours of him getting a pasting in camp. I’m 99% sure I had posts in this thread years ago saying that Tyson shouldn’t leave the Joshua fight too long. He’ll be the first out of the lot of decline due to his lifestyle.
No one watching Buatsi vs Azeez? I wasn't for a second buying their "beef" (Sky must think we're 2 year olds), but two very good fighters going head to head, and was a good fight.
Whittaker looking really impressive by the way
Whittaker looking really impressive by the way
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Exactly. There was obviously a bit of rust against Ngannou but let’s be honest, he looked awful. Not just ring rust, he looked slow and weak. If he doesn’t have the camp of his life he’ll get beaten up by Usyk
Sky are so shit at promoting their fights that I barely remember when these fights are on
Think Fury is done besides exhibitions. It seems like Francis and now sparring Opetaia has been a huge reality check.
But more than that, the low key promotion for the fight gives the impression that Fury's team knew he was unlikely to commit in the gym. It has seemed very half-hearted, like they were expecting this to happen.
Fury should just vacate his belt at this stage and let Usyk and Hrgovic get on with it.
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Sadly I reckon he’ll drag it out for as long as possible. And I’d be surprised if he turns the money down.
Hopefully the scorn that he’s attracted from the boxing community motivates him for one last big push and he has a real go at it
I'd like to see Whittaker keep the same energy when he steps up a level. He's fighting journeyman who have more losses on their records than wins, it just looks very childish and unneccesary. If he steps up to world level and keeps the showboating then fair play.
Conor Benn also has to be the most deluded fighter on the planet, he's talking about fighting Haney and it being easy work. He shouldn't even be in a discussion to fight Eubank Jr, never mind Haney, the only reason people are giving him hype or the time of day is because of his name and the subsequent drug ban that he's been vocal about. Since his ban came into place, he's fought two journeyman and hasn't put either of them away. He's the most overrated fighter in Britain - Eubank Sr said he should fight Harlem next and that would probably be the best fight for him to take.
I think he knows he's mediorce and he's trying to get a payday with his mouth and calling out the big names before he gets found out. I think he'd struggle at British level.
Conor Benn also has to be the most deluded fighter on the planet, he's talking about fighting Haney and it being easy work. He shouldn't even be in a discussion to fight Eubank Jr, never mind Haney, the only reason people are giving him hype or the time of day is because of his name and the subsequent drug ban that he's been vocal about. Since his ban came into place, he's fought two journeyman and hasn't put either of them away. He's the most overrated fighter in Britain - Eubank Sr said he should fight Harlem next and that would probably be the best fight for him to take.
I think he knows he's mediorce and he's trying to get a payday with his mouth and calling out the big names before he gets found out. I think he'd struggle at British level.
I’m sick of listening to Eddie Hearn trying to push the Eubank Jnr fight; he’s acting like it’s the biggest British fight of all time but I haven’t spoken to anyone who’s remotely arsed about it. Benn looks tiny even at 150 never mind 160.
I liked the look of Khalil Coe on the undercard.
I liked the look of Khalil Coe on the undercard.
Benn was looking pretty good before the ban tbf but then you have that shadow hanging over him and not knowing if we was juiced up at all during that period.
"Tyson. Hi, my brother. Don't be afraid. I will not leave you alone."
Usyk has that unsettling politeness of a Bond villain, must be driving Fury mad.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/68216146
Usyk has that unsettling politeness of a Bond villain, must be driving Fury mad.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/68216146
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Who is Jnr fighting?
Nah it’s great to see for me. Love the style and flair. Think it’s unfair to be critical of him for doing it differently and I will continue to watch him move through the gears.
I think he’s a top talent and the showboating adds to his persona. Too many drab characters in the sport.
I don’t think he has anything planned; just to be clear, I meant I’m sick of Hearn banging on about him potentially fighting Connor Benn.
I'm presuming they're still looking to fight Janibek if not, which to be honest I'd rather see - this fight feels very forced at this stage and they should probably both crack on with trying to win world titles in their respective weight classes instead.
Absolutely, they’ve made it an embarrassment. Used to love boxing but it’s a farce now. Everyone avoids each other. The worst thing that happened in boxing was the introduction of different belts for the same weights. How can you have four different world champions at the same weight is beyond me.
Yep I agree. The UFC is set up much better that way where their is a clear no1 - and then ranked contenders looking to get to the top of the pile. Even when there is a unification in boxing, the winner has to basically vacate two of the belts before his next fight or he can fight an easy mandated fights because someone has managed to make themselves no.1 or no.2 in the rankings despite being 10-15th best in the division.
As well as the belts, it’s the different promoter linked TV companies too. It’s near impossible to fight 4-6 times a year at any sort of decent level now.
They’ll tell you different, but no one seems to fight for glory nowadays; it’s just about maximising earnings, which I sort of get but just own it if that’s the case rather than accusing each other if ducking. They are all at it in some capacity.
They’ll tell you different, but no one seems to fight for glory nowadays; it’s just about maximising earnings, which I sort of get but just own it if that’s the case rather than accusing each other if ducking. They are all at it in some capacity.
Is it time yet: how’s going to go?
As an armchair fan I think it’s the worst match up for Ngannou, Olympic pedigree boxer who is slightly taller and, crucially, has real stopping power. Given the fall of AJ’s stock, he can’t afford to lose so I expect it to go the distance, be a bit dull and be quite a comfortable points win for him.
Not watched this yet but just to say that Rummy’s Corner who has done this does brilliant boxing videos.
Just saw an ad for the Joshua fight and can't believe it's pay per view. Seriously, who'd pay £20 for it?
This isn't boxing but people consume it the same way Marvel comic book shite isn't cinema but people go watch it in droves. Look at the YouTube boxing scene, it has made ridiculous money and they are not boxers. It's a disaster for the sport IMO. Prats like Eddie Hearn think it's great but imagine coming up and learning your trade and seeing Mark Goldbridge decide one day to fight True Geordie for many times more than you could ever hope to get.
I get it's entertainment at the end of the day but it's also sport. Call it something else. It is not and never will be true boxing.
AJ vs Ngannou isn't boxing ? Of course its boxing.