Yep that’s what I meant. So it shows what a good chin he has. Fury would have used the same tactics.
Wilder vs Ruiz would be more interesting.
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Yep that’s what I meant. So it shows what a good chin he has. Fury would have used the same tactics.
Wilder vs Ruiz would be more interesting.
Ruiz needs to fight at about 250ish imo. Carrying around all the extra weight cost him tonight.
No, I would just watch highlights somewhere if even that. AJ fought a smart fight and boxed well but there was zero entertainment.
AJ v Fury is the fight that I want to see, I might even pay for that, Manchester v London I'd always want the Manc to win though especially because he's a red. I also like his story of coming back form depression and drug addiction.
Bloody awful fight. Right result at least.
I’m willing to bet anyone saying this was boring or that AJ was a coward has never actually boxed
Impressive adjustments for only 6 months - didn't realise AJ had a backfoot game on him.
Ruiz looked so poor - if he fights Fury i'd put my house on a points victory. His defence is leaky so he'd only have a puncher's chance against Wilder.
Ruiz looked so poor - if he fights Fury i'd put my house on a points victory. His defence is leaky so he'd only have a puncher's chance against Wilder.
Ortiz is a better boxer than Ruiz, at least in terms of volume and variety, so it may be an interesting fight if that's what they want to do.
I totally agree. I was embarrassed for how out of condition he was.
I think they both support United actually. I’m sure I read that somewhere.
I'd like to see Whyte/AJ again. Both have improved massively since the first time and I think Whyte deserves a title shot. Dillian did rock AJ in first fight as well it'd be a tough one but isn't many other options.
Although I like AJ I've still got a soft spot for the Gypsy King though.
He should beat AJ really he's a better boxer. Sure I'm in minority but I wouldn't mind seeing Ruiz Wilder think it'd be a good match up.
Ruiz is going to have to work his way up to meet Wilder.
Yes. That’s also how I saw it. Eliminate any chance of a proper fight, which is kinda the point of boxing and such sports! AJs sole motivation was to avoid getting KO’d. Cowardly in my book.
And the fact will always remain: AJ got KO’d by Luiz but couldn’t return the honour.
I totally agree. I was saying it when it was uncool to do so.
should have just walked into punches really shouldn't he? That would have shown the world!AJ boxed smart, people might not like it, but its just as justified way to win as a KO.
Wilder would be stupid to fight him. Any top fighter would be because he's a hard bastard with a lightning in his hands if you let him get in range.
You are never going to look good fighting him if you want to win so why bother?
He outboxed him. Comprehensively. I’m far more impressed that AJ can Fight that type of fight.....I know he can slug but tonight called for something different.
There's a reason Ruiz has only lost twice, no ones going to be queuing up to fight him still.
AJ has already proven he can knock Ruiz down, so the expectation is he was going to actually knock him out this time to prove the first flight was a fluke....like Lennox Lewis did after he got KO'd by Hassem Rahman....
Fight 1:
Six Months later...
This is the sort of reaction I expect to see out of a world class heavyweight, which AJ clearly is, but I wish he would show it.
Looks like it might be Usyk next for AJ
Lewis was in a different class from any of the current HW for one thing. For another, his loss to rahman was down to overconfidence and getting caught with the perfect punch, same as AJ vs Ruiz, but with the big difference that Rahman had nothing that could trouble Lennox, while Ruiz clearly has the tools to trouble AJ. I would say Ruiz is a better fighter than Rahman in fact
And AJ scored a flash KD in the first fight, Ruiz wasn't really hurt
And AJ scored a flash KD in the first fight, Ruiz wasn't really hurt
Will be interesting if they have a rematch. Ruiz extra weight may have cost him some of the mobility needed to keep tabs on AJ but AJ was moving and jabbing more anyway.
Also on the commentary they said it was a large boxing ring of 22 feet, don't know the size of the Square Garden one on the night but it did look big tonight with two large heavyweights, gives AJ even more room if true.
Also on the commentary they said it was a large boxing ring of 22 feet, don't know the size of the Square Garden one on the night but it did look big tonight with two large heavyweights, gives AJ even more room if true.
Ruiz did get complacent then and ate too much, how disappointing
Ruiz got paid and that was enough for him.
Fat and rich. Good for him.
Fat and rich. Good for him.
Joshua is a Watford fan.
It's boxing, not fighting. AJ fought smart and thoroughly outboxed his opponent. People criticizing any of these guys for being "cowardly" from the sidelines is hilarious.
Poor fight glad i didn't pay for it . Ruiz was a disgrace as expected he has obviously done nothing but eat and celebrate since he won the first fight ala Buster douglas after he beat Tyson .
AJ did what he had to win which was very little to be honest just pile up the points using his reach and not get caught .
I read somewhere Fury and Wilder have nothing to worry about after watching this and would have to agree . Fury may not be holding a belt but right now he is the best in the world
AJ did what he had to win which was very little to be honest just pile up the points using his reach and not get caught .
I read somewhere Fury and Wilder have nothing to worry about after watching this and would have to agree . Fury may not be holding a belt but right now he is the best in the world
Ruiz has never been knocked out. Joshua already tried to do it once at his heaviest ever weight and failed. If he'd tried again, it would have been the height of stupidity.
This was like a boss-fight in a video game. Sometimes you just have to switch up your tactics against an enemy with a particular superpower. The result is not always going to be pretty.
Ruiz won the first fight on a puncher's chance. He could have done the same thing today if AJ had given him a window. He didn't. That's what you have to do in the heavyweight division sometimes.
This was like a boss-fight in a video game. Sometimes you just have to switch up your tactics against an enemy with a particular superpower. The result is not always going to be pretty.
Ruiz won the first fight on a puncher's chance. He could have done the same thing today if AJ had given him a window. He didn't. That's what you have to do in the heavyweight division sometimes.
Super disappointed by the lack of Homer Simpson/Drederick Tatum meems tonight. Is 2019 really so wild that we’ve all just accepted that heavyweight boxing now is watching a super athlete beat a fat lad on points?
Literally spent the whole evening marvelling at the lengths everyone around me was going to to act like this wasn’t low key ridiculous.
Literally spent the whole evening marvelling at the lengths everyone around me was going to to act like this wasn’t low key ridiculous.
Wilder has a garbage resume. He’s got one decent name on his record and he was bailed out by the judges in that fight. Not sure where you’re getting the idea that he only fights top guys?
Yep, he earnt £10 million from the fight alone last night. He's set for life. He doesn't have the professionalism or discipline to keep any championship belts. Having said that, he'll probably be seen as a gatekeeper in the HW division and get a few more decent fights. Would love to see him against someone like Whyte or Wilder.
How can you agree with it if you didn't even watch it?
The irony being Ruiz Jr now has more quality names on his resume than Wilder having fought AJ twice and Parker previously.
Wilder has a garbage resume. He’s got one decent name on his record and he was bailed out by the judges in that fight. Not sure where you’re getting the idea that he only fights top guys?
Yeah. More than a stone heavier I heard.
He can give and take a shot and he's durable.
Imagine what a good strength and conditioning coach could do for his career.
Ruiz let himself down nobody else. Straight after the fight "I put on too much weight" goes to show he didn't take it seriously and he will probably have no motivation to ever get close to the belts again with his attitude. Can't say I blame him though he is now set for life fair play to him