Love how people act like they don't care about this fight anymore.
The RedCafe Boxing Thread
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It could finally happen!!
Nick Halling and Jim Watt are truly awful commentators. In less than 3 minutes they've gone from caning Martin here for being too young and inexperienced to realising he's far ahead on the score cards and are now praising a "coming of age performance" and "maturity beyond his years".
The young lad has boxed a technical fight very well in part because he lacks the power to hurt his man. They've ignored it for 6 rounds and are finally acknowledging it on the back end of round 7.
The young lad has boxed a technical fight very well in part because he lacks the power to hurt his man. They've ignored it for 6 rounds and are finally acknowledging it on the back end of round 7.
What will happen to boxing after the Mayweather vs Pacquaio fight happens? I feel like that's the only reason boxing has managed to stay relevant for the last few years, it always involves those two names. Don't get me wrong there are great fighters out there still but are there any great fights apart from this one?
Firstly, I seriously doubt Mayweather will take the fight, it's too much of a risk and he is posturing (like he always has) in order to save face.
Great fights have historically been a rarity, I would say Kovalev v Adonis is potentially a great fight, at least that's a fight to unify the division. Golovkin should hit the real mainstream soon, once that happens and there's more money involved I can see big fights with him involved, perhaps Cotto. Klitschko v Wilder would be a massive fight, Klitschko v Fury would have a fantastic build up and would get me very interested. Provodnikov v Mathysse has been made, that has the potential to be another Gatti Ward, look out for that one.
GGG is a superstar in the making, agreed. Plus Canelo who has the potential to be the next big thing in the sport. Then there seems to be a big list of talented young fighters coming through in America from Thurman to Errol Spence (who apparently floored Mayweather in training) to the Charlo twins. America also has it's first heavyweight champ in years. Also the UK is exploding with young talent right now and we should see, if not a golden era but a lot of very good domestic fights.
Boxing is in good shape imo.
Boxing is in good shape but I think there are some big problems with the sport. Firstly it's suffering the same problem that the NFL is suffering from; people are very squeamish about violence and injuries so there have been many premature stoppages (not to mention some horrific judging). In addition, too much holding is being tolerating and turning fights into tedious encounters. The other big problem as I see it is Al Haymon and the fact that now more than ever, boxers can get away with avoiding credible challengers and are content with taking easy fights. Mayweather is the obvious example (two Maidana fights - seriously feck off) but there are plenty more who are just as bad. Adonis has continually ducked Kovalev, nobody wants to fight Rigondeaux and we have some of the least credible champions (and belts) in the history of the sport.
But yeah, Golovkin and Kovalev are fantastic, Manny is still very entertaining as well.
What happens after Floyd-Manny?
Canelo-GGG will have a legendary trilogy.
Man, there are so many great fights that can be made.
Canelo-GGG will have a legendary trilogy.
Man, there are so many great fights that can be made.
I don't. Pacman is past his prime, and will just be another name on Mayweather's unbeaten list. Floyd ducked him for many years, and will now win easy
And Floyd isn't past his prime? If Maidana can win rounds against him with his pressure, then Manny, who's a southpaw, has superior handspeed and throws at more awkward angles is sure to make it a competitive fight. I think the 2010 Floyd would have KO'd the 2010 Manny tbh.
I don't think Floyd would hurt Manny enough to KO him. It would be another boring points win. My point is that Pacman has regressed more than Money, and that we should have seen this in their prime!
If the fight were to happen this year, it'd almost certainly go the distance. Fair enough - Manny probably has regressed more. Still the best fight out there IMO, it'd be competitive.
Agree on that, but think it is an easier win for Money now, which is why he will take it.
It will still set records and be the fight of the year probably.
Might be old news, but seen a picture on Twitter of Floyd & Manny meeting to discuss the potential fight. Really hope this happens now. Negotiations appear to be going at snail's pace but at least there appears to be something happening!
Definitely a lot of problems with the sport. Another one is ridiculous PPV events. Every fight should be on tv without extra charges and the Cleverly-Bellew event was an absolute joke.
Still, it's looking positive overall and there's a lot of good fights coming up this year. Golovkin in a couple of weeks. Love watching him.
They met up in Manny's hotel suite to discuss things. It's looking about 50/50 at the moment, if you're a realist. Still, 50/50 is the closest it's ever been and the latest rumour is HBO and Showtime have agreed on everything which is a big step in itself.
Did you see the video Mayweather leaked? Absolutely laughable. He secretly films the meeting in the hope of putting something out there to refute the suggestion he is ducking (and always has been). The best he can come up with in an hour long meeting is 15 seconds of him saying that they have to make the fight happen, well I'm convinced Floyd! How stupid does he think boxing fans are? It's as clear as day that he is posturing to save face, the fight will never happen.
Apparently the fight has to happen on May 2nd for Floyd, non negotiable, 'not enough time to make the fight' will be the excuse.
Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather agree £160m Las Vegas mega-fight
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...yweather-agree-160m-Las-Vegas-mega-fight.html
Finally it could be happening
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...yweather-agree-160m-Las-Vegas-mega-fight.html
Finally it could be happening
Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather agree £160m Las Vegas mega-fight
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...yweather-agree-160m-Las-Vegas-mega-fight.html
Finally it could be happening
Still more denial and nothing set in stone. The wait goes on.
Anyone know if the Golovkin fight is being shown in the UK & what time it will start?
Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather agree £160m Las Vegas mega-fight
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...yweather-agree-160m-Las-Vegas-mega-fight.html
Finally it could be happening
I will not believe it until the bell rings, Mayweather has been running for so long I wouldn't be surprised to see an "injury" followed by (another) retirement.
It's on Five in the UK, hopefully it will mean more people are aware of the most exciting boxer in the sport. I think the main event will start at about 21:30 - 22:00.
Cheers!
How has boxing go to the stage where the two best boxers in a division can avoid fighting each other? It's an absolute farce. Can you imagine Federer and Nadal never playing each other? Who's to blame?
I have no stake in either and I personally blame the boxing public for continuing to buy Mayweather's PPV's when he has shown no desire to give fans the fight they want to see. I don't think Mayweather is scared of getting hurt by Pacquiao, I do think he is scared of losing his "0" as his whole persona and draw is the fact that he is unbeaten in the pro game. He isn't an exciting fighter like Pacquiao so if he lost that record he would become far less of a draw. He primarily cares about his bank balance (fair enough) so all the while he has been able to get away with ducking Pacquiao he has taken advantage of the stupidity of boxing fans.
Pacquiao on the other hand, has no reason to avoid a fight with Mayweather - any allegations of performance enhancing drugs have been completely dismissed, Mayweather actually had to pay an out of court settlement for making such slanderous accusations. His fighting style and the way he has conducted himself throughout his career isn't consistent with someone who would ever shirk a challenge. This is the guy who has won world titles in 8 divisions against much bigger fighters like Margarito, De la Hoya and Cotto.
Oh my.....
Needs it's own thread this one surely?
a few years ago I've have been over the moon. Since Pacquiao went backwards I'm not as excited about seeing a straight forward points win for Mayweather
I'd really like this to be an ultimate battle with Manny coming off the victor. If it lives up to the hype then it shall be a great contest.
They should've fought 5 years ago, but I still expect it to be a great fight. Mayweather to win on points for me.
At least it's not as awfully late as say Tyson's two big fight monster fights.....ESPECIALLY the Lewis one. But yeah, big night at the pub for this one I reckon, don't care if it's a bit late, still plenty who claim Manny should be able to handle him.
It'll do wonders for the sport too.
It'll do wonders for the sport too.
Its too late for Manny. I dislike Floyd and his style, but I can't see past a boring points win for him.
This fight is absolutely win-win-win for Manny with the too late crowd, which is fair enough, but I think he'll be in the shape and have the best preparations for it in years. Floyd HAS to win by either KO or easy points(like easier than he made Saul look and ended up getting a draw from one judge) to win some doubters over.
They should've done, better late than never. It would have been a disappointment if they never actually fought during their careers at all. Both still in pretty good shape, can't see it being a dull affair.
Pony up people!
Who still pays for PPV? Everything's online.
Yeah right!
More people than ever according to the numbers actually.