Marquez needs the KO.
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Bradley takes it comfortably surely?
Yep, unless he can land a bomb like he did on Pac. Bradley running off all night but affective. Can see why he has such a low KO rate.
Bradley wins. The first time in ages that i've seen him look like the tricky, elusive and tough fighter who beat Witter and Alexander. Good performance by him, minewhille it looks like time has caught up with Marquez.
Marquez got one, split. Didn't think so myself but would love to see Bradley get knocked out in the future, seems a right knob IN the ring.
Just seen Reginald Kray's boxing record and it is quote impressive for the short career that he had. 7 fights with 7 wins, mostly by points. It is a shame he didn't keep it up.
Depending on the odds I'll be backing Provodnikov to win by KO/TKO. Anything better than 2/1 I'd take in a heartbeat, he is an absolute warrior. However, if it goes the distance then he doesn't stand a chance; it's in Alvarado's hometown and Alvarado will definitely land more scoring punches. I genuinely don't think Alvarado could stand that knocks that Bradley took off Provodnikov, if you watch that fight he had him in the 12th round and the scoring was very harsh. Bradley is certainly superior to Alvarado and he barely escaped that night, the only thing that worries me is the height and reach disadvantage. It promises to be one hell of a fight!
I'm still not convinced Alvarado can fight a defensively responsible 12 rounds which leads me to think that those are good odds. I might have been heavily influenced by the Rios fight but I just can't see him coming through without hitting the canvas if he fights anything like he did against in either of those fights.
I have my doubts as well, that's certainly what he needs to do and his reach advantage gives him that opportunity but I think in his hometown he will be too proud to do it. If it turns into a brawl then Alvarado is finished.
Yeah, I'll definitely be looking at those odds as the weekend gets closer, especially after not following through with my hunch on the Bradley fight.
The other thing to consider is the altitude, the venue is a mile above sea-level and presumably Alverado is accustomed to lower levels of Oxygen. On the other hand he is considerably older than Provnodikov so perhaps it will affect him more.
I managed to get 9/4 for Provodnikov to win by TKO/KO the other day, I can't wait for this fight tonight.
Provodnikov vs Alvarado about to kick off for anybody interested.
Provodnikov packs the hardest punch in the entire division, not only that but he proved his stamina at altitude tonight. In terms of what's next for him; I see no point in a rematch with Alverado. He tried to outbox Ruslan tonight and still couldn't avoid getting stung, if he exchanged in a brawl then it would be over even quicker. Make no mistake; this one wasn't even close. He is unlikely to fight Pacman because they are good friends so it seems that Marquez is the most likely eventuality. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see Bradley giving Ruslan a rematch, especially after he had to see three separate Neurologists after their last fight. In an ideal world I would love for him to eventually get a shot at Mayweather, perhaps after he wins his next fight. However, given Mayweather's proclivity for ducking big punchers in their prime I suspect that's just a pipe dream.
I would love to see that, but I cannot see Mayweather wanting to risk his '0' to fight someone like Provodnikov. I remember the night when Hatton had Mayweather on the ropes early on and made him wobble. That was the moment I thought Hatton could have won it but he lacked that killer instinct to follow up and put Mayweather to sleep, because he could have done, but for his reluctance. However, I have not seen Provodnikov fight, but I get the impression that this guy absolutely packs a punch like no other and when a boxer is hit, he stays hit. I guess that Mayweather will be calling for a drug test to be done on Provodnikov as he did with Pacquiao. In any case, if they were to fight, I would like to see Mayweather put on his arse, because if he does get hit (taking into account what I said about Hatton making him wobble earlier on in their encounter) I think he will stay down.
Indeed, and well done for calling the KO.
I have to take issue with this point, Mayweather has never ducked any big puncher of note. If anything he has actually relished fighting the type of fighter provodnikov is as he is a big puncher but he is pretty flat footed. He'd simply look at the fact that when Bradley stuck to boxing and not brawling he outclassed Provodnikov with ease, the reason Bradley looked so ragged at times was his ego telling him to stand toe to toe after the Pac fight. Mayweather (Cotto fight aside) has never had issues with wanting to stand toe to toe against big/solid punchers; he'll only do that when it suits him. He also just fought a big puncher in the shape of Canelo (who is a better fighter than Provodnikov) and he beat him with ease for the same reasons he'd beat provodnikov; in fact he'd make it look even easier.
Alvarado was fine when he actually stuck to boxing, the problem was he got gassed and couldn't out move Provodnikov all night (not a problem Floyd would have) but he was outpointing Provodnikov until he ran out of gas.
Indeed, and well done for calling the KO.
I have to take issue with this point, Mayweather has never ducked any big puncher of note. If anything he has actually relished fighting the type of fighter provodnikov is as he is a big puncher but he is pretty flat footed. He'd simply look at the fact that when Bradley stuck to boxing and not brawling he outclassed Provodnikov with ease, the reason Bradley looked so ragged at times was his ego telling him to stand toe to toe after the Pac fight. Mayweather (Cotto fight aside) has never had issues with wanting to stand toe to toe against big/solid punchers; he'll only do that when it suits him. He also just fought a big puncher in the shape of Canelo (who is a better fighter than Provodnikov) and he beat him with ease for the same reasons he'd beat provodnikov; in fact he'd make it look even easier.
Alvarado was fine when he actually stuck to boxing, the problem was he got gassed and couldn't out move Provodnikov all night (not a problem Floyd would have) but he was outpointing Provodnikov until he ran out of gas.
Cheers Bamsola, £300 profit on that. With the last three weeks giving me Klitschko, Bradley and now Ruslan I'm thinking of quitting my day job!
On the fight last night; Alvarado had three or four rounds where he managed to utilise his reach advantage and quicker footwork. I completely agree that part of his problem was that he was doing so much running that he ran out of gas. However, even when he mixed it up by fighting southpaw and relying on the jab he still got tagged once or twice a round and it was visible that, as early as the first round, whether this had been a boxing match or a fight he had no chance of going the distance.
On Mayweather, we could argue about this all day but having read as much as I can and looking at it logically I think he ducked Pacquiao and Margarito. He cares about his legacy in the sense that he wants to retire undefeated but he doesn't really care about what fight fans want to see, he'd rather make the easy money (and who can blame him). I wonder who his last few fights will be against, personally I'd wager that he'll continue to take no risks at all.
I certainly wouldn't say that Ruslan would beat Mayweather; he's the most skilled defensive fighter I've ever seen and could probably evade Ruslan all night. However, I think that he would pose a bigger threat than Canelo, who was far too green and foolishly tried to outbox Mayweather instead of playing to his strengths. We've already had a good preview of what a Provodnikov v Mayweather fight would look like; Bradley is the closest thing to him out there. He wanted to box him and keep him at range but the thing about Ruslan is that he doesn't mind leaving himself wide open in order to box at range, in my view Bradley was lucky to win that fight. Not only because he was saved by the bell and was seriously rocked in the early rounds and in the twelfth. But because of the knock-down that wasn't in the first round, I'm sure most people would agree that it was a 10-8 round.
Watched an interview with Ruslan after the fight where one journo told him he was the "baddest man on the planet" to which Ruslan responded: "I'm actually quite a kind person". Maybe I'm biased because he's my new favourite fighter in this wonderful weight class, Pacquiao's star is sadly fading (he will beat Rios no question though) and Ruslan is obviously less skillful but just like Pacman he gives fans what they want to see. The last two fights he has been involved with have been more entertaining than Mayweather's entire career to date!
That was a really entertaining fight.
Another good weekend ahead, although nothing as closely matched as last weekend. I'm not saying anything controversial by making Wilder, Brook and Hopkins all mortal locks to emerge victorious. Not much money to be made though; the treble is 1/4. Still it's 25% for a night's work so it's better than a kick in the balls.
Nobody else excited about the Brook fight?
What time is it expected to start?
Crap entrance song.
Great punch to win it. Impressive performance.
Expected a longer fight, but yep, great shot.
All over in the 4th. Needs a big fight next.
Why the feck would Brook fight Khan other than the fact he wants to hurt him. Surely he needs to be fighting a top 10 fighter.
The judge who scored it 116-111 Rose was on crack, agreed. Would like to say the amazing variance in the judge's scores surprised me, but we have all seen it over and over again. Rose seems to weak a puncher to ever make it really big.
I had Rose losing by 2 rounds, the judge that give it him by 5 or 6 rounds was a disgrace.
As for Kell Brook i'd love to see him fight a top level fighter now, Brook v Broner would be very interesting.
As for Kell Brook i'd love to see him fight a top level fighter now, Brook v Broner would be very interesting.
He has a passable jab, can defend himself and proved that he has a decent chin on Saturday. No way in hell he won that fight though!
This weekend we have Golovkin who is obviously a mortal lock, still he's a joy to watch even when there isn't really a contest. I'd be very interested to hear what people think about the undercard in NY and the fights going on in Hull. I see Coyle winning comfortably on points, he got caught by a terrific left hook from in the last fight in Hull but up until that point he had won almost every round against Derry Matthews, he really showcased his technical ability and stamina that night. Beyond that Afolabi seems very likely to overcome Janik in Madison Square Garden, I think it will go the distance. The Towers v Browne fight and the Abdu v Perez fight are hugely difficult to call, should be great to watch though!
Anyone see Ringside on Sky Sports 2?
Froch and Groves on it.
The absolute state of Groves. Sounded like a chav kid slagging someone outside an off licence.
Froch and Groves on it.
The absolute state of Groves. Sounded like a chav kid slagging someone outside an off licence.
Yeah, Froch was getting so angry his eyes were watering.
I quite like Groves to be honest, he may be a chav but he isn't completely thick. If you get a chance to see his rigside interview with that idiot DeGale on the couch you'll warm to him. Regarding the fight; Groves may be the better mover but this is a gigantic step up for him. You can still get 2/9 for the Froch victory, free money imo.
Having done a little more research I think I may put a little money on Perez in the Golovkin undercard; the more I see of Abdusalamov the less sophisticated I think he is. If Perez is in good condition I think his speed and superior technical ability will triumph over Abdu's raw power.
Having done a little more research I think I may put a little money on Perez in the Golovkin undercard; the more I see of Abdusalamov the less sophisticated I think he is. If Perez is in good condition I think his speed and superior technical ability will triumph over Abdu's raw power.
I saw an ad for it- Froch saying 'how can I be scared of a man with a glass jaw'. I guess it is going to be pay per view?
Are you certain that Froch is taking seriously enough though? How much have you put on it? I have about £100 in my Hills account, might check the odds now.
I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of Froch's preparation for this fight but he certainly doesn't have a reputation as someone who is unprofessional, quite the contrary. Frankly, I'd back Froch if he's 60% of the man that went toe to toe with Kessler. I suspect he has lost very little, if anything since that wonderful fight. Groves is a decent technical fighter but he doesn't have power to worry Froch and I strongly suspect he hasn't got the chin to stand up to the kind of serious abuse Froch can dish out. I stand to lose about £500 if Froch fails to win, I'll probably bet more if the odds drift.
Plus Groves mysteriously parted company with his long term (and highly rated) trainer a couple of weeks ago, hardly ideal preparation!