The Reality Draft: Main Thread (Finals)

No wonder Francescoli could escape unscathed if ganged up like this. @VivaJanuzaj is furiously yelling obscenities in the touchline.

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Teams in Draw Order as below. 2 picks for this round. All the way down and back up.
The 8 hours rule starts ticking...

@antohan whenever you are ready


Teams for the Semi-finals:

01. antohan - (3. Gerrard) (7. Hierro) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara 10. Götze 11. Vieri 12. Abidal 13. Chilavert 14. Nedved 15. Baggio
02. MJJ / Theon - (4. Dalglish) (7. Sammer) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 8. Campbell 9. Totti 10. Ricardo Rodriguez 11. Peter Schmeichel 12. Elkjaer 13. Crespo 14. Passerella 15. Cafu
03. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) (3. Scholes) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam 8. Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva 11. Kahn 12. Sagnol 13. Sergi 14. T. Henry 15. Schweinsteiger
04. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) (1. Francescoli) 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba 11. Reuter 12. Van Der Sar 13. Trezeguet 14. Roy Keane 15. RvN


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Reinforcement Pool for SF - (Cannot pick Tevezobola players)

Annahnomoss - (3. Tardelli) 1. Cocu 2. Gentile 4. Amoros 5. Rossi 6. Gascoigne 8. Bossis 9. Littbarski 10. Sterling 11. D. Alves 12. Preud'homme 13. Simeone
Chesterlestreet - (7. Lahm) 1. Mascherano 4. Beckham 6. Júnior, 8. Buchwald 9. G. Neville 10. J. Rodriguez 11. Augenthaler 12. Rocheteau 13. Van Breukelen
Joga Bonito - (4. O Ardiles) 1. Keown 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby 8. Koeman 9. De Rossi 10. Juan Bernat 11. Sanchís, 12. Zenga 13. Rafael Gordillo
ctp - (6. Ribéry) 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 8. Carvalho 9. Kakà 10. Carvajal 11. Evra 12. Schumacher 13. Paulo Sousa
Skizzo - (7. Brehme) 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes 9. McGrain 10. Marquinhos 11. Michel 12. Fillol 13. Butragueño
Stobzilla - (8. Jugovic) 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 4. Balakov 6. Irwin 9. Pires 10. Strootman 11. Mauro Silva 12. Bezsonov 13. Southall
Aldo - (7. Rio) 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 6. Tresor 8. Camacho 9. Gerets 10. Neymar 11. Montero 12. Pfaff 13. Cantona
crappycraperson - (7. Cannavaro) 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer 6. Prohaska 8. Briegel 9. Ayala 10. Kroos 11. J. L. Ferreira 12. Dasaev 13. Hoodle
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Raees - (2. Makelele) 1. Morena 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack 7. Zanetti, (*8. Costacurta*) 9. Terry, 10. Pogba, 11. D. Villa 12. Belodedici, 13. Casillas 14. Scirea 15. E Davids
BorisDeLeFora - (7. Bergomi) 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann (*8. Lucio*) 9. Popescu 10. Koke 11. A. Cole 12. Donadoni 13. Cech 14. Kohler 15. Batistuta
Jayvin - (3. Iniesta) 1. Gallas (*2. Vieira*) 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars 7. Desailly 8. Blanc 9. Xabi Alonso 10. Hazard 11. Gianluigi Buffon 12. Boban 13. Mendieta 14. Figo 15. Deschamps
harms - (1. Puyol) 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp 6.Bonhof 7. Ruggeri 8. Willy Ortiz (*9. Stielike*) 10. Varane 11. Kaltz 12. Krankl 13. Zubizarreta 14. Neeskens 15. Kh Förster


The RiOFL players have returned back to the team having served their suspension and are now eligible for playing the next round.
 
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Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Teams in Draw Order as below. 2 picks for this round. All the way down and back up.
The 8 hours rule starts ticking...

@antohan whenever you are ready


Teams for the Semi-finals:

01. antohan - (3. Gerrard) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 7. Hierro 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara 10. Götze 11. Vieri 12. Abidal 13. Chilavert 14. Nedved 15. Baggio
02. MJJ / Theon - (4. Dalglish) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 7. Sammer 8. Campbell 9. Totti 10. Ricardo Rodriguez 11. Peter Schmeichel 12. Elkjaer 13. Crespo 14. Passerella 15. Cafu
03. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva 11. Kahn 12. Sagnol 13. Sergi 14. T. Henry 15. Schweinsteiger
04. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba 11. Reuter 12. Van Der Sar 13. Trezeguet 14. Roy Keane 15. RvN


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Reinforcement Pool for SF - (Cannot pick Tevezobola players)

Annahnomoss - (3. Tardelli) 1. Cocu 2. Gentile 4. Amoros 5. Rossi 6. Gascoigne 8. Bossis 9. Littbarski 10. Sterling 11. D. Alves 12. Preud'homme 13. Simeone
Chesterlestreet - (7. Lahm) 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior, 8. Buchwald 9. G. Neville 10. J. Rodriguez 11. Augenthaler 12. Rocheteau 13. Van Breukelen
Joga Bonito - (4. O Ardiles) 1. Keown 2. Baggio 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby 7. Cafú 8. Koeman 9. De Rossi 10. Juan Bernat 11. Sanchís, 12. Zenga 13. Rafael Gordillo
ctp - (6. Ribéry) 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 8. Carvalho 9. Kakà 10. Carvajal 11. Evra 12. Schumacher 13. Paulo Sousa
Skizzo - (7. Brehme) 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes 9. McGrain 10. Marquinhos 11. Michel 12. Fillol 13. Butragueño
Stobzilla - (8. Jugovic) 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 4. Balakov 6. Irwin 7. Passarella 9. Pires 10. Strootman 11. Mauro Silva 12. Bezsonov 13. Southall
Aldo - (7. Rio) 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor 8. Camacho 9. Gerets 10. Neymar 11. Montero 12. Pfaff 13. Cantona
crappycraperson - (7. Cannavaro) 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer 6. Prohaska 8. Briegel 9. Ayala 10. Kroos 11. J. L. Ferreira 12. Dasaev 13. Hoodle
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Raees - (2. Makelele) 1. Morena 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack 7. Zanetti, (*8. Costacurta*) 9. Terry, 10. Pogba, 11. D. Villa 12. Belodedici, 13. Casillas 14. Scirea 15. E Davids
BorisDeLeFora - (7. Bergomi) 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann (*8. Lucio*) 9. Popescu 10. Koke 11. A. Cole 12. Donadoni 13. Cech 14. Kohler 15. Batistuta
Jayvin - (3. Iniesta) 1. Gallas (*2. Vieira*) 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars 7. Desailly 8. Blanc 9. Xabi Alonso 10. Hazard 11. Gianluigi Buffon 12. Boban 13. Mendieta 14. Figo 15. Deschamps
harms - (1. Puyol) 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp 6.Bonhof 7. Ruggeri 8. Willy Ortiz (*9. Stielike*) 10. Varane 11. Kaltz 12. Krankl 13. Zubizarreta 14. Neeskens 15. Kh Förster


The RiOFL players have returned back to the team having served their suspension and are now eligible for playing the next round.
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Maybe you should exclude injured players?

Teams for the Semi-finals:

01. antohan - (3. Gerrard) (7. Hierro) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara 10. Götze 11. Vieri 12. Abidal 13. Chilavert 14. Nedved 15. Baggio
02. MJJ / Theon - (4. Dalglish) (7. Sammer) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 8. Campbell 9. Totti 10. Ricardo Rodriguez 11. Peter Schmeichel 12. Elkjaer 13. Crespo 14. Passerella 15. Cafu
03. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) (3. Scholes) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam 8. Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva 11. Kahn 12. Sagnol 13. Sergi 14. T. Henry 15. Schweinsteiger
04. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) (1. Francescoli) 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba 11. Reuter 12. Van Der Sar 13. Trezeguet 14. Roy Keane 15. RvN
 
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Great draft EAP, it is a joy to watch from the sidelines and usually it gets extremely dull when the first matches and the last are a month apart with nonstop waiting for people not being on time etc.

This one has you clinched in even if you aren't participating just to follow how it unfolds. Great Hargriefs round, Theon/MJJ probably getting the short end of the stick here. But Scholes-Keane is always a winner in these drafts, Enzo is on a huge draft-boost and Hierro is great as he can be played in the midfield and at the back to equal effect.
 
Annahnomoss said:
Great draft EAP, it is a joy to watch from the sidelines and usually it gets extremely dull when the first matches and the last are a month apart with nonstop waiting for people not being on time etc.

This one has you clinched in even if you aren't participating just to follow how it unfolds. Great Hargriefs round, Theon/MJJ probably getting the short end of the stick here. But Scholes-Keane is always a winner in these drafts, Enzo is on a huge draft-boost and Hierro is great as he can be played in the midfield and at the back to equal effect.
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Thankfully the participation has been great and the matches generate lots of interesting discussions. Not just the peole in sidelines, but the managers themselves seem to be loving it, going by their reactions...

Theon said:
Feck sake
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antohan said:
feck me sideways, that's straight into the spine. Ouch!
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The Red Viper said:
feck this shit.
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Theon said:
I don't like Keane in that role at all.
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Jokes aside, I fully agree with you. He can be a slightly more defensive box-to-box out of three, but the pivot's role is not for him
 
harms said:
Jokes aside, I fully agree with you. He can be a slightly more defensive box-to-box out of three, but the pivot's role is not for him
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Aye, it's just a waste

This is fecking brutal by the way, losing Sammer has ripped the heart out of the side. He's so difficult to replace.
 
@harms @Theon I'm just clarifying, Keane won't be a holding midfielder, he'll still have the explosive runs forward but the idea is to have 3 complete box to box midfielders, and have all three use their incredible shared work rate to press and run all over the pitch. The thing about Keano here is only a simple matter of He's the one I rate best defensively among that trio, so he'll be instructed to hold a little back and pick more carefully when to burst forward. Moreover, think about it like that, he wasn't too limited in going forward when partnered only with Scholes right? Why should he be limited when he has both Breitner and Seedorf to be defensively aware as well?
 
VivaJanuzaj said:
@harms @Theon I'm just clarifying, Keane won't be a holding midfielder, he'll still have the explosive runs forward but the idea is to have 3 complete box to box midfielders, and have all three use their incredible shared work rate to press and run all over the pitch. The thing about Keano here is only a simple matter of He's the one I rate best defensively among that trio, so he'll be instructed to hold a little back and pick more carefully when to burst forward. Moreover, think about it like that, he wasn't too limited in going forward when partnered only with Scholes right? Why should he be limited when he has both Breitner and Seedorf to be defensively aware as well?
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To be fair Keane-Scholes wasn't the best partnership defensive-wise, more of a gung-ho one. It's coming back again and again to our discussion about 3 box-to-box on the pitch, which is a very complicated issue. I would prefer a pure DM even if it means benching Seedorf (:(), but you know better, of course.
 
Gio said:
Thought you'd go for him. Anto shafted you a wee bit with Neeskens.
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It was a tough decision and it isn't the most pragmatic or defensive of moves, but how can you turn down Romario.

Actually wouldn't have took Neeskens anyway. There are a couple of great midfielders here, none of them for that Sammer role mind.
 
harms said:
To be fair Keane-Scholes wasn't the best partnership defensive-wise, more of a gung-ho one. It's coming back again and again to our discussion about 3 box-to-box on the pitch, which is a very complicated issue. I would prefer a pure DM even if it means benching Seedorf (:(), but you know better, of course.
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Nah it has nothing to do with knowing better, it's just a question of ideas and opinions. I think Breitner-Seedorf offer Keane a bit more freedom in choosing the time to push forward. If he doesn't, he'll have someone who will do it instead of him and you can definitely trust him to do the defensive role, and if he does pushes forward you'll have either of Breitner/Seedorf who both have tremendous defensive abilities and awareness to cover for him. imo you can't ask for more balance in your midfield, doesn't lake work rate, creativity is fine with the added part from two of Enzo/Savicevic/Rummenigge, defensive awareness is top notch. The complete package.
Maybe if I qualify to the finals I'll change Seedorf and Keane and bring on a more defensive midfielder, maybe go for Sammer or Davids or someone in that defensive calibre, but that will be just a tactical change, I think my current midfield is as balanced as it comes.
Worst case scenario, I end up against a team like anto which has a classic #10 like Baggio there. Well, its definitely not the best thing for my team but I'm sure Keane had his fair share of games where SAF instructed him to be a little more defensive minded and keep a guy out of the game, Keane could definitely do that. It might not take his best qualities into the entire match but it does the business.. It's pretty much like we talked about Scirea as the CB, if he has the right attributes for being a top notch defender, he'll be a top notch defender even if you limit his attacking.
 
Theon said:
It was a tough decision and it isn't the most pragmatic or defensive of moves, but how can you turn down Romario.

Actually wouldn't have took Neeskens anyway. There are a couple of great midfielders here, none of them for that Sammer role mind.
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I know! I have to say I was tempted, just for kicks. Was one of five in my shortlist for this upgrade round, but with Vieri, Raúl and Baggio I'm pretty sorted.

I wouldn't be too confident about those midfielders, TRV definitely needs one and it's a no-brainer who he will pick. Viva is harder to predict, you may get lucky. Or not.
 
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