The Reality Draft: Main Thread (Finals)

VivaJanuzaj said:
:confused: I could've swore he was a lefty! This is like an epiphany to me :lol:
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Germany actually has a history of rightfooted leftbacks since the 70's :lol:. Breitner, Briegel, Brehme, Lahm. Brehme turned into the perfect two footed player, so it didn't really matter and Breitner and Lahm moved to the right side later in their career, Breitner in midfield and Lahm in defense, but they were all basically make-shift leftbacks, because we sucked at finding quality left footed fullbacks. Schnellinger was the last one, and even today the most promising leftback in Germany is probably Durm, who's again rightfooted.
 
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Balu said:
Germany actually has a history of rightfooted leftbacks since the 70's :lol:. Breitner, Briegel, Brehme, Lahm. Brehme turned into the perfect two footed player, so it didn't really matter and Breitner and Lahm moved to the right side later in their career, Breitner in midfield and Lahm in defense, but they were all basically make-shift leftbacks, because we sucked at finding quality left footed fullbacks. Schnellinger was the last one, and even today the most promising leftback in Germany is probably Durm, who's again rightfooted.
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How highly do you rate Schnellinger, out of interest? I've usually seen him rated among the highest echelons of defenders in the history of the game and possibly the best left sided German defender. Do you agree?

I've not seen much of him. Do remember watching the European Cup semi final of 1969 and George Best gave him a nice run around. :p
 
Balu said:
Makes no sense to me, Breitnigge was always right sided and Seedorf played his best football as a left sided box to box midfielder, why would you want to swap them?
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Sorry, what I meant to say was "great team Viva, everyone is in their correct position and that Breitnigge combo will be awesome".

Is it too late to delete my post? :nervous:
 
Aldo said:
How highly do you rate Schnellinger, out of interest? I've usually seen him rated among the highest echelons of defenders in the history of the game and possibly the best left sided German defender. Do you agree?

I've not seen much of him. Do remember watching the European Cup semi final of 1969 and George Best gave him a nice run around. :p
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I probably haven't seen more from him during his peak years than you have. He is highly rated and from what I've read and seen, he'd be my left sided centerback in an alltime German team if I chose a back five (I probably wouldn't though). Something like 'Brehme Schnellinger Beckenbauer Kohler Lahm' with Breitner and Matthäus in midfield. I thought he was still excellent in '70 as a sweeper for Germany, but from what my grandfather told me, he was already past his best and a totally different beast in the early to mid 60's. It's a bit difficult to judge him from the available footage of the World Cup in '62, which was probably his standout year.
 
Jayvin said:
Sorry, what I meant to say was "great team Viva, everyone is in their correct position and that Breitnigge combo will be awesome".

Is it too late to delete my post? :nervous:
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Yes, it's too late. @antohan 's wrath will rain down on you and Viva for the suggestion to move Breitner to the left when Rummenigge is on the right, nothing you can do about it other than posting

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Balu said:
I probably haven't seen more from him during his peak years than you have. He is highly rated and from what I've read and seen, he'd be my left sided centerback in an alltime German team if I chose a back five (I probably wouldn't though). Something like 'Brehme Schnellinger Beckenbauer Kohler Lahm' with Breitner and Matthäus in midfield. I thought he was still excellent in '70 as a sweeper for Germany, but from what my grandfather told me, he was already past his best and a totally different beast in the early to mid 60's. It's a bit difficult to judge him from the available footage of the World Cup in '62, which was probably his standout year.
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Your all time eleven wouldn't include Sammer?
 
Annahnomoss said:
Your all time eleven wouldn't include Sammer?
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Nope, definitely not. Feel sorry for him, but with Beckenbauer in defense and Matthäus and Breitner in midfield, Sammer ends up on the bench.
 
Balu said:
Nope, definitely not. Feel sorry for him, but with Beckenbauer in defense and Matthäus and Breitner in midfield, Sammer ends up on the bench.
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Finish the entire all-time eleven for Germany! Would be interesting.
 
Aldo said:
Nice pick. If I am not wrong, Croatia never lost a game when Boban scored.
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Oh woooow! That accounts for about 9 games, against shit teams. Seriously, you can do better when finding praise for Boban.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
The 2 exception to this will be posters like Pat_Mustard and Brwned who rarely participate in drafts of recent times and ex-managers like yourself and rpitroda who just are not in this draft. I was thinking of compiling a list with these 2 buckets of posters together to give them the bonus vote, but I just took too much work...and I think the resulting list will cause more controversy as it clearly tries to push scan voters out. So just stuck with bonus for playing managers this draft for simplicity sake.
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Good call, crappy nailed it with the apartheid reference.
 
Annahnomoss said:
Do you rate Netzer that highly or it more for balance of the team?
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My favourite rival player ever and the key player in the best German nationalteam ever. He's also such a loveable character. Individually you could argue against, use another typical German, but he's easily our best attacking midfielder ever and the Breitner - Netzer combination in midfield was probably as good for Real as Breitnigge was for Bayern, so yeah, I really rate him that highly.

ctp said:
He certainly makes sense for the balance of the team, but it's nothing short of blasphemy to leave Walter out.
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He made my alltime German World Cup team though. I think that's actually fair.
 
01. Annahnomoss - (3. Tardelli) 1. Cocu 2. Gentile 4. Amoros 5. Rossi 6. Gascoigne 7. Scirea 8. Bossis 9. Littbarski 10. Sterling 11. D. Alves

02. Chesterlestreet - (7. Lahm) 1. Mascherano 2. Nedved 3. Neeskens 4. Beckham 5. Henry 6. Júnior, 8. Buchwald 9. G. Neville 10. J. Rodriguez 11. Augenthaler

03. Joga Bonito - (4. O Ardiles) 1. Keown 2. Baggio 3. Figo 5. Weah 6. Søren Lerby 7. Cafú 8. Koeman 9. De Rossi 10. Juan Bernat 11. Sanchís

04. Raees - (2. Makelele) 1. Morena 3. Socrates 4. Conti 5. Stoichkov 6. Ballack 7. Zanetti, 8. Costacurta 9. Terry, 10. Pogba, 11. D. Villa

05. antohan - (3. Gerrard) 1. Ljungberg 2. Boniek 4. Effenberg 5. Raul 6. Luis Enrique 7. Hierro 8. T. Silva 9. Ferrara 10. Götze 11. Vieri

06. BorisDeLeFora - (7. Bergomi) 1. Zambrotta 2. Tigana 3. Robson 4. Cerezo 5. Del Piero 6. Klinsmann 8. Lucio 9. Popescu 10. Koke 11. A. Cole

07. ctp - (6. Ribéry) 1. Brolin 2. Lato 3. Xavi 4. Guardiola 5. Shevchenko 7. Kohler 8. Carvalho 9. Kakà 10. Carvajal 11. Evra

08. Skizzo - (7. Brehme) 1. Solskjaer 2. Cabrini 3. Schuster 4. K. Förster 5. Hugo Sanchez 6. Barnes 8. Deschamps 9. McGrain 10. Marquinhos 11. Michel

09. MJJ (Theon) - (4. Dalglish) 1. Di Livio 2. Souness 3. Bochini 5. Rivaldo 6. McGrath 7. Sammer 8. Campbell 9. Totti 10. Ricardo Rodriguez 11. Peter Schmeichel 12. Elkjaer

10. Jayvin - (3. Iniesta) 1. Gallas 2. Vieira 4. Lizarazu 5. Romario 6. Overmars 7. Desailly 8. Blanc 9. Xabi Alonso 10. Hazard 11. Gianluigi Buffon 12. Boban

11. Stobzilla - (8. Jugovic) 1. Camoranesi 2. Hansen 3. Davids 4. Balakov 5. Batistuta 6. Irwin 7. Passarella 9. Pires 10. Strootman 11. Mauro Silva 12. Bezsonov

12. Aldo - (7. Rio) 1. Senna 2. Hagi 3. Pirlo 4. Schweinsteiger 5. RvN 6. Tresor 8. Camacho 9. Gerets 10. Neymar 11. Montero 12. Pfaff

13. The Red Viper - (5. Simonsen) 1. Prosinečki 2. Robben 3. Scholes 4. Vidic 6. Eto'o 7. Stam 8. Rui Costa 9. Dunga 10. Rafael Da Silva 11. Kahn 12. Sagnol

14. VivaJanuzaj - (7. Nesta) 1. Francescoli 2. Seedorf 3. Breitner 4. Vierchowod 5. Rummenigge 6. Savicevic 8. Verón 9. Adams 10. Alaba 11. Reuter 12. Van der Sar

15. harms - (1. Puyol) 2. Blokhin 3. Falcao 4. Roberto Carlos 5. Bergkamp 6.Bonhof 7. Ruggeri 8. Willy Ortiz 9. Stielike 10. Varane 11. Kaltz 12. Krankl

16. crappycraperson - (7. Cannavaro) 1. Nadal 2. M. Kempes 3. Roy Keane 4. Jan Ceulemans 5. Shearer 6. Prohaska 8. Briegel 9. Ayala 10. Kroos 11. J. L. Ferreira 12. Dasaev

@Skizzo
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Nope. Subbing then creates rules on when they can be subbed. Would putting them in team sheet and subbing out within 5 mins be OK? Too many variations.
Lets's just say the 5 drafted players (3DoFI, 1 Youth and 1 Legacy) will play the first game full time.
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:mad: @MJJ I was planning a cheeky sub after 5 minutes just to :lol: at the meltdown as I argued the guy had already "played" in the first game.

Spoilsport.
 
antohan said:
Satisfy my soul.

Not a bad option to have Krankl at the end of Kaltz' crosses if you need a goal.
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Thought so too

I had an idea of building a team with Krankl and Prohaska in it, but the latter was picked before I made up my mind :(
 
antohan said:
:mad: @MJJ I was planning a cheeky sub after 5 minutes just to :lol: at the meltdown as I argued the guy had already "played" in the first game.

Spoilsport.
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:lol: I wanted to do the same but didn't wanna waste a pick so figured I asked.

@edgar yup, Campbell will tuck inside and totti will play like an inside forward.

if I change it mid Match do I lose the bonus points ?
 
MJJ said:
:lol: I wanted to do the same but didn't wanna waste a pick so figured I asked.

@edgar yup, Campbell will tuck inside and totti will play like an inside forward.

if I change it mid Match do I lose the bonus points ?
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I would guess if you changed then you would lose the points....Otherwise everyone would start with it.
 
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