It's honestly laughable at this point, just look at Chelsea and all the players they are shifting literally half their squad, what they are doing this summer would take United 10 years to do. Funny thing is that some of the players they are selling are even worse then what we're trying to get rid of, we're not even asking for ridiculous fees either for some of the players.
The perennial struggle to sell
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People say we can only concentrate on one transfer at a time...imagine if that also applies to transfers out.
We'd take half a decade to actually being able to build a squad that the manager is satisfied with.
It the wages that are the problem. Why should any player Utd think is surplus to requirements move and take a paycut?
People lambast de gea on 375k but Martial is on 250k and gave us 6 goals this season. Who is going to buy him? Who would match his wages?
That would be an amazing deal
How that guy has survived for so long at this club is beyond me.
Its things like this that makes me think we have bad people running our transfers. 0 minutes for City, 0 minutes in the PL yet he is going for nearly 20m. We would be happy getting this price for Dean Henderson.
We have lost every single youth prospect for nothing or close to nothing. Tuanzebe just left for free, the perfect time to sell him was when he was putting up MOTM performance against Mbappe.
We have lost every single youth prospect for nothing or close to nothing. Tuanzebe just left for free, the perfect time to sell him was when he was putting up MOTM performance against Mbappe.
I have a lot of respect for United doing the admirable thing of giving youth a chance to make it to the first team, but in the case for Tuanzebe, he became injured when he was 2nd/3rd choice ahead of Lindelof for a brief period...until he became injured again and lost out on everything.
£19m AND a buy back clause? feck me. Why on earth are we so shit compared to them at selling?!
In totally unrelated news, Etihad are purchasing a sponsorship for the inside of Burnley's socks for £18m
To be fair Trafford is very highly rated and he’s done very well in the championship. They could probably gotten more by loaning him to a PL team for a year. We sold Guehi for a similar amount after a great loan in the championship and now he is in the England squad and has top 6 clubs sniffing around him.
Bolton are in League One mate - he has no appearances above the 3rd division in his career. Definitely a stretch to compare it to Guehi in my opinion.
Ah sorry my bad. You’re right. He is definitely highly rated in youth circles though and it’s no surprise Kompany likes him.
Yeah that all makes sense, but personally wouldn't say it makes £19m worth of sense!
This.
How are there no Saudi teams looking at our players. Its fecking sus how many Chelsea players and other being bought by them. United are supposedly have a large fanbase on that side of the world. Surely someone will buy a fred or even McTominay.
Realistically only super exceptional talents or lucky ones make it all the way to the first team - eg Mason and Rashford. Greenwood was doing crazy things in the under teams, he was destined to make it. Rashford got a lucky with injuries and never looked back.
It is incredibly sus, although there is definitely a trend of a lot of these notable first movers being Muslim: Mahrez, Kante, Benzema, Koulibaly, Ziyech etc.
Unfortunately I can’t think of any Muslim players in our ranks?
I do wonder if this is part of the strategy for Saudi. Convince Muslim players to come over as the first-movers, normalising the transition so that others feel less guilty selling out. Fair play if so.
We should be more keen to let first team players go and sell quicker those talented youngsters who are not in the picture of the next 3 years of first team squad planning.
Martial is and Saudi League should be all over him.
According to wiki he is catholic. One potential I thought was Bailly, primed for a £10m bid from Saudi
Amad for £100m???
Statement signing
We so need the new owner to come in and dump the entire board
Because this is blatant cooking of the books.
It’s not a true figure.
It’s city!
My biggest issue isn't that we get small bags of peanuts for our younger players... most of the time we just overhype them. Look back over the years and think about all those "promising youngsters" we've sold. Can you think of anyone that was a huge success elsewhere and that we should've gotten so much more money for when we sold them? Only one I can think of is Paul Poobag, but we didn't sell him...
What's so infuriating is that we seem unable to sell the fringe players/squad players from the first team. Even the newspapers doesn't seem interested in making up stories about other teams being interested in them. Maguire to Spurs, McT to Newcastle, Henderson to Nottingham and Fred to Fulham are the only ones I can remember reading. But the rumours don't seem to get traction, so us getting rid of them doesn't feel likely... Henderson to Nottingham seems like the most possible one
What's so infuriating is that we seem unable to sell the fringe players/squad players from the first team. Even the newspapers doesn't seem interested in making up stories about other teams being interested in them. Maguire to Spurs, McT to Newcastle, Henderson to Nottingham and Fred to Fulham are the only ones I can remember reading. But the rumours don't seem to get traction, so us getting rid of them doesn't feel likely... Henderson to Nottingham seems like the most possible one
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I realise that there is a read only thread about Mason Greenwood. But it is not that informative, maybe because there is little to inform of.
But with the club transfer budget set at circa £100m and well over half spent, and the No1 priority being a striker, what is the Caf view on Mason Greenwood.
For what it is worth, I would say that he should resume his career with United and hopefully give us the goals we desperately need.
But I can understand others who might be against that.
But with the club transfer budget set at circa £100m and well over half spent, and the No1 priority being a striker, what is the Caf view on Mason Greenwood.
For what it is worth, I would say that he should resume his career with United and hopefully give us the goals we desperately need.
But I can understand others who might be against that.
Nope. Loan him and sell when he does ok.
Would rather play Harry Maguire up front than have that back in the squad
For what it's worth, I would say that the club will very likely be thinking along the same lines.
One issue that I’ve noticed is that we reward young players far too readily.
- Brandon Williams is on £65k a week.
- Garnacho is on £50k and in discussions over a new deal.
- Greenwood £75k.
- Malacia £75k
- Antony £200k
- Sancho £350k
- Rashford £200k and negotiating his fourth contract with the club at the age of 25
We should be enforcing salary caps like other teams do.We can’t get rid of these players when they flop, which is always a gamble with younger players. Once they near the end of a contract, we have to increase wages even further and it spirals out of control like the de gea wage situation.
This tactic hasn’t been working for a long time. I’m all for buying and developing young talent, I think it’s something we should do more of. Butwe have to change the culture of the club because every agent and club know that they can rinse us
- Brandon Williams is on £65k a week.
- Garnacho is on £50k and in discussions over a new deal.
- Greenwood £75k.
- Malacia £75k
- Antony £200k
- Sancho £350k
- Rashford £200k and negotiating his fourth contract with the club at the age of 25
We should be enforcing salary caps like other teams do.We can’t get rid of these players when they flop, which is always a gamble with younger players. Once they near the end of a contract, we have to increase wages even further and it spirals out of control like the de gea wage situation.
This tactic hasn’t been working for a long time. I’m all for buying and developing young talent, I think it’s something we should do more of. Butwe have to change the culture of the club because every agent and club know that they can rinse us
the problem is we haven’t got a lot to offer players other than cash. why would you join united if you had no affiliation to them otherwise? the stadium is just one of many, rather than the best in the country, as it was 20 years ago. the training complex is inferior to most of the other teams now. we can offer players large contracts and marketing exposure. it’s the only thing we’ve got.
I get that, and we’d probably have to sacrifice a few seasons to get it right which is obviously very difficult to do. Bit we can offer them playing time like other clubs do? European football? Bonuses based on performance? Allure of a rich history and huge fan base?
We still have pull because we are still one of the biggest clubs in the world. We don’t have to pay exorbitant wages to compete, other teams don’t.
When I hear this, apart from the obvious questions about his mentality/maturity, there is a huge question of what he looks like after more than 18 months not playing football. That’s huge. Anyone who thinks he’s gonna come in and hit the ground running needs to give their head a wobble.
I think a loan is the best thing for him, out of the fire line and good for United to gauge his level
This problem can be solved easily, have the mentality of small club. Agree to the clubs transfer fee then offer the players a salary increase of 25-30%, not double or triple their wages with reasonable bonuses like XI appearence, winning league and cups. I don't know how transfer works, I assume if the players services is no longer needed. The club would inform the player and the agent. The agent would then try to find a club for their player. I think the players are so well paid that the agent advise them to stick around and collect their fat pay cheque. The agent will then try to secure a more just before the contract expires.
Yes of course I understand that. But given his age and proper training he should be in a position for EtH to be able to gauge his progress.
And I can also understand those who say no way.
But needs must. We have an asset and we have a need.
Anyway. Just my view.
No one can convince me they're not cheating. No way they actually get those fees for those players.
Exactly! They are cheats and should not be used as an example by anyone.
High wages is the biggest problem
Need to get him to visit Lourdes and take a dip in the water....