Wouldnt surprise me. I think that happens a lot, pretty much everytime we get linked with anyone the pound signs are lighting up the agents eyes!
The perennial struggle to sell
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Wouldnt surprise me. I think that happens a lot, pretty much everytime we get linked with anyone the pound signs are lighting up the agents eyes!
I know, drives me mad
For the last few months of the season he's been coached properly. The coaching was shit for the last 6 years.
Yeah has been a definite improvement
It was. Stupid games we were playing with the Beckham transfer. We wanted to get rid, but at the same time we wanted to sell him to Barca despite him only wanting Madrid. I was a bit annoyed we were playing those games with an academy player who had done so much for the club (I know Beckham didn’t behave like an angel either in his last year and around the transfer, but still).
Kenyon as he was moving to Chelsea probably was also happy to negotiate a lowish fee.
We should have negotiated in good manner from the beginning, should have told Madrid they can have him for 40-45 mil.
Classic caf exaggeration based on nonsense. Lindelof has been a decent but largely average player for his in his time. A perfect squad player and always has been.
Maybe Martial, Fred, Mctominay and Maguire need another chance as well. They'll turn into the players we hoped for because of better coaching.
Typical of many fans to overstate a player's ability. With time people tend to forget how poor a player was, I've seen it before on Welbeck, Rafael, Hernandez etc.
I guess your comments are factual.
Lindelof is a great third (or better still fourth) choice centre back. He's dependable, doesn't rock the boat, is available when called upon, and is on reasonable wages.
The same cannot be said for Martial or Maguire, who are on huge salaries, and Martial is not usually available. Fred is too inconsistent - excellent one game, terrible the next. Mctominay is OK, but central midfield is so crucial to a successful side, and unlike defence where you try to keep your first choice pairing together as much as possible, midfield may be mixed up to play different tactics, and you really need four or five elite players there, whereas we have Casemiro, Bruno and 60 minutes of Eriksen per game. This means that these three players are exhausted, and we are very predictable, and will pretty much always play those three if they are available.
Because we give players especially the failing ones too much time. If a player performs poorly for us but we sell within a couple of years of signing, they aren't too far removed from their good form before joining us. This means they still have a reputation and demand. We saw this as we got got decent value out of Lukaku, Memphis, Dan James and Di Maria.
Once you keep the player too long, the idea of their good form is a distant memory. Players like Donny, Martial, Lingard, Bailly, Tuanzebe should have been cut much earlier and we'd have gotten decent value. McT would've been in this group too but his Scotland performances are giving us leverage.
Sancho and Maguire fall into this category now, we need to cut losses asap. Another bad season from both and their transfer value will be so low that we'll almost be forced to keep them.
Once you keep the player too long, the idea of their good form is a distant memory. Players like Donny, Martial, Lingard, Bailly, Tuanzebe should have been cut much earlier and we'd have gotten decent value. McT would've been in this group too but his Scotland performances are giving us leverage.
Sancho and Maguire fall into this category now, we need to cut losses asap. Another bad season from both and their transfer value will be so low that we'll almost be forced to keep them.
So absolutely nobody wants this Maguero guy? Ffs
We are a disgrace really.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-sales-transfer-news-30321686
Not a hope of us challenging for anything much, the way things are going. The two bidders should rock up at the vampires' homes in Florida and tell them to sing the feckin contract with one of them. Otherwise we look set for another struggle to make top four
Not a hope of us challenging for anything much, the way things are going. The two bidders should rock up at the vampires' homes in Florida and tell them to sing the feckin contract with one of them. Otherwise we look set for another struggle to make top four
People always say City pay their players off the table, but I noticed (the official) they tend to pay new players with lower wage (exception: Grealish and Haaland), then increase their wage once they have established themselves. Gundogan (and Bernardo Silva) seemed they one who wasn't appreciated enough.
KdB 150k/w ( 2015) -> 175k/w (2017) -> 350k/w (2018) -> 400k/w (2020)
Cancelo 80k/w (2019) -> 300k/w (2022)
Rodri 121k/w (2019) -> 220k/w (2022)
Stones 100k/w (2016) -> 250k/w (2021)
Zinchenko 20k/w (2016) sold 2022
Jesus 75k/w (2017) -> 90k/w (2018) sold (2022)
Laporte 65k/w (2018) -> 120k/w (2019)
Ederson 65k/w (2018) -> 100k/w (2022)
Alvarez 50k/w (2022)
Sane was 90k/w when sold to Bayern and F. Torres 46k/w when sold to Barcelona.
Source: Sportac.
KdB 150k/w ( 2015) -> 175k/w (2017) -> 350k/w (2018) -> 400k/w (2020)
Cancelo 80k/w (2019) -> 300k/w (2022)
Rodri 121k/w (2019) -> 220k/w (2022)
Stones 100k/w (2016) -> 250k/w (2021)
Zinchenko 20k/w (2016) sold 2022
Jesus 75k/w (2017) -> 90k/w (2018) sold (2022)
Laporte 65k/w (2018) -> 120k/w (2019)
Ederson 65k/w (2018) -> 100k/w (2022)
Alvarez 50k/w (2022)
Sane was 90k/w when sold to Bayern and F. Torres 46k/w when sold to Barcelona.
Source: Sportac.
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What is our record sale? Beckham?
Ronaldo?
This is a long list and Man Utd's DOF needs to work day and night in transfer window to finish his work.
I thought we terminated his contract
£80m to Madrid..
Are we even trying to sell? Not a single rumour about any player. Even SUN and DM are in dark 
I'd just take out an ad with that exact list on the back of every single menu, in every single restaurant in Saudi Arabia.
That's just absolutely embarrassing, a department that clearly are incompetent and unable to do the job that they are employed to do.
Chelsea have already sold 7 senior player this window alone, and raked in £200m..!
We have instructions of 'sell to buy' and a long list of players to go, it will be very interesting to see how we fare.
The bulk of the sales is Mount, Havertz and Kovacic though. I'm pretty sure you could get a decent fee too if you sold starters like Rashford, Shaw and Bruno.
But its still 7 sales this window alone. United have managed 7 in three years.
I remember during Covid, even then Chelsea shifted more than 10 players.
Its just karma for shouting that we are the biggest club in the world all the time when we are not.
Good point.
Also it’s hard to tell if we’re crap at selling as the previous regime seemed to want to stockpile players on contracts. For example we should have sold Tuanzebe instead we kept and now he’s released on a free. It’s not like we’ve been actively selling before now
You didn't have a squad of 33 players though, plus more returning from loan. A firesale like this isn't something good or something to be applauded. Yes I'm happy we're getting good fees for these players, and I'm happy we're trimming the squad but we're in this position because of the unprecedented scale of spending the previous two windows.
7 players - 3 starters, 3 very opportunistic sales to Saudi and then Loftus-Cheek who were getting a pretty small modest fee for considering how useful he's been for us.
Yeah we probably have been better at selling than United over the years but I do think how good we are at it is massively overstated on this site.
If not for the Saudis you may have struggled to shift those 3 for any kind of money
I think we would have been fine finding buyers for Mendy and Ziyech, considering we're selling them for £15M and £8M respectively and their wages aren't obscenely high either. Koulibaly though for sure.
Did Kanté not end up going there?
Whats worse is that in those 3 years we have had a sell to buy policy at the start of the window
He did but his contract had expired so he went there as a free agent.
Ah ok makes sense
We really are a shit show, one day it will surely end and we’ll operate like professionals.
A full sale can’t come soon enough and hopefully then some heads will roll.
A full sale can’t come soon enough and hopefully then some heads will roll.
What do you think could be done except offering players out extremely cheaply? Wait, Eric Bailly for 2m? Sounds like we are doing that.
Laird gone next
This is not just now this is based on years of poor buys and incredible wages offered. Yes it’s not an easy job to sell our players but they made their bed and now they have to sleep in it.
We are in a huge amount of debt which has just continued to grow year on year, so it’s all unfortunately coming to a head now with how financially fecked we are. January was a clear indicator that the this summer we’d be looking down the back of the sofa for some extra money.
A new owner with a lot of money is the only thing getting us out of this mess otherwise this will just continue to be the norm.
Yep you're right. Thing is, we can't get out of the bad sellers rut until we're regularly successful and so people want our castoffs and we no longer have to overpay to attract players.