A lot of stuff is just repeats, we're shit and that's it. There's only so many ways you can say it.
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You don’t need to take a second. It’s incredibly dull.
If there's no guest on they tend io be pretty boring/crap, the best shows tend to be the ones with folks from non-football related folks who are fans of football
I did think Keane was harsh on Bruno, but I do get his sentiment.
I wouldnt say he was being grumpy and saying stuff for clout, but he does come across as someone who is incredibly frustrated with the current crop of United players - which is probably most of us. He was just incredibly passionate in his response.
If I start talking about United, I get as angry and emotional as Keane did.
I wouldnt say he was being grumpy and saying stuff for clout, but he does come across as someone who is incredibly frustrated with the current crop of United players - which is probably most of us. He was just incredibly passionate in his response.
If I start talking about United, I get as angry and emotional as Keane did.
Keane's attack on Bruno was way out of order imho. He's actually becoming very very boring. Him having a proper go at Bruno was unexpected, but most of the things he comes out with are very predictable. Then you've got Ian Wright who's frightened to death of getting on the wrong side of him. Unfortunately lost my respect for Roy Keane. If they don't update the panel, get rid of Keane and Wright then the programme is going to die its own death.
I’m with Keane on this tbh.
Completely agree with Keane on this one. The way he got all red and worked up while making the argument makes it clear he's still a United fan at heart despite all his nonchalance.
How is a Bruno a fighter? How is constantly going down, looking for the ref, moaning and all round petulance fighting?
Keane the greatest captain in PL history would know a thing or two about what it takes to be a successful leader of men. How a bunch of united fans listen to his rant and stockholm syndrome themselves into defending Bruno is truly something. He is exactly what Keane says, an impostor. He doesn't lead anybody. Even when his fan club talk about his leadership they usually caveat it with off the pitch. Like Keane says talent is not enough, you need all the intangibles to lead at the highest level. Look at Adams, Bruce, Keane, Terry, Kompany, Vidic, VVD. Now compare Bruno to that lot. Even the refs treat him like a loser, they give more respect to Maguire. He's a decent player, talented for sure but he is also probably the worst captain we've ever had.
I’m with you on this. People thinking a captain that has led Man Utd to its worst position in decades shouldn’t be criticised is ridiculous.
This is a captain that has more poor games than good ones to boot. Him being one of the best of a bad bunch should not absolve him of anything. Our record since he’s been made captain is beyond poor and to say he has no part in that is nonsense.
The fact that the best player and the one who gives more than anyone else is the only one who’s being dug is a bit much to say the least.
Especially in the midst of the last two performances (albeit it took 70 mins to show up against Everton). Just smacks of pure disdain for Bruno. We all know what Gary thinks and he’s not ashamed to put it out their live on Sky too.
He’s not a perfect player by any means but you bet your arse if he was at city he’d be heralded by the same lot going to town on him. The relegation threads wouldn’t be so silly on here either.
Especially in the midst of the last two performances (albeit it took 70 mins to show up against Everton). Just smacks of pure disdain for Bruno. We all know what Gary thinks and he’s not ashamed to put it out their live on Sky too.
He’s not a perfect player by any means but you bet your arse if he was at city he’d be heralded by the same lot going to town on him. The relegation threads wouldn’t be so silly on here either.
Another key thing Keane mentions is responsibility. It's part of all the great players, they take it personally. They can't stand losing and they can't tolerate it if other players are fecking up or bringing the team down. If the Bruno fan club is honest they will recognize that Bruno doesn't really take losses to heart and he is pretty much friendly with all the players even the ones not giving a 100% like Rashford and Sancho. The guy cares more about his stats and fantasy points than winning football. He cares more about being buddy buddy with the other players than actually setting the high standards needed at a winning club and that's why Keane called him an impostor. Because he knows the difference between pretending to be a leader and real leadership. This is not to put all the problems we have as a club on one player but it's about having an honest conversation about the limitations of the captain we currently have. I do wonder if all these stat lovers in the Bruno fan club would have said Gerrard was a better player than Keane or Scholes because he had better G/A or would they actually value the intangibles the two United legends had that Slippy G lacked.
Meh, give me United Hour any day.
Some absolute drivel right there. I see the entire "He makes faces and waves his hand" crowd is here.
If Bruno is the impostor at the club, you could as well shut down the club, as the rest of the team are worse than him.
Without Bruno this season we'd be relegated. It's not his fault the club has been completely mismanaged with most of the major purchases made since his arrival either currently injured and/or simply not good enough to push the club forward in a meaningful way on the pitch.
Unless Bruno himself signed off on wasting loads of money on VdB, Ronaldo, Sancho, Antony, Casemiro, Mount, Varane (great player, but not here and couldn't stay fit while he was), Malacia, Hojlund, Onana, etc. I don't know how the state of the club falls on him. Spending that much money over an extended period of time with virtually none of it contributing positively for you on the pitch is why the club is fecking 14th, not because Bruno isn't a good captain since he makes weird faces and gesticulates wildly.
Unless Bruno himself signed off on wasting loads of money on VdB, Ronaldo, Sancho, Antony, Casemiro, Mount, Varane (great player, but not here and couldn't stay fit while he was), Malacia, Hojlund, Onana, etc. I don't know how the state of the club falls on him. Spending that much money over an extended period of time with virtually none of it contributing positively for you on the pitch is why the club is fecking 14th, not because Bruno isn't a good captain since he makes weird faces and gesticulates wildly.
Fecking hell!
People are insane. In this very shitty period of Utd's history, he's been a consistent positive and his captaincy, on and off the pitch, has been admirable.
But but but, he waves his hands and makes funny faces.
And United captains are not supposed to make funny faces, it is known.
But, worse captain in Utd history, because he... Tries to get fouls?
Young says hi.
I can't imagine how mentally draining it must be to keep going knowing how fecking shit most of his teammates are. Properly properly shit.
Bruno could be playing for so many better teams with much better players but he's here giving 100% every game. The criticism he gets on here from idiots is infuriating. Yes he has bad games, he's not perfect and he can be a bit whiny. But fecking hell if we had 2 or 3 more players as good as Bruno and that worked as hard as he does we'd be in a lot better shape.
When did we even last score a goal where he wasn't involved?
Don't know how people can be arshed constantly listening to the same shite slagging us off every week. We get that we're not as good as we used to be.
Even when we show some character (Keane's favourite buzz word) to salvage a point against Everton he still has a go at us. Beating Ipswich last night with 10 men he'd have been similarly unimpressed with because it's Ipswich and we're Manchester United. Beating City or Arsenal we probably got them on a bad day or defended too much not playing the United way, celebrating a point against Liverpool would have been seen as embarrassing etc etc.
We can't win as we'll never be as good as when Keane and Neville were players. This constant negativity in the media from our ex players isn't helping anyone.
Even when we show some character (Keane's favourite buzz word) to salvage a point against Everton he still has a go at us. Beating Ipswich last night with 10 men he'd have been similarly unimpressed with because it's Ipswich and we're Manchester United. Beating City or Arsenal we probably got them on a bad day or defended too much not playing the United way, celebrating a point against Liverpool would have been seen as embarrassing etc etc.
We can't win as we'll never be as good as when Keane and Neville were players. This constant negativity in the media from our ex players isn't helping anyone.
He’s factually been our most consistently dangerous , productive attacking player the entire time he’s been here. We would not of won anything or qualified for CL if he wasn’t here since he joined.
Hes never injured or fake injured (my feelings are hurt so my body is hurt). He seldom goes more than 2-3 games without a goal or assist. Would have astronomical assist figures if we had a goal scorer or experienced forward players not just out of the youth stable.
By some of the Moronic logic, Bryan Robson must of been a terrible captain since things were so bad during his time in mid to late 80s.
Absolute dumbassess here. I’d be a Keane fan in general but he’s talking pony on this. He wouldn’t hang around a club so dysfunctional , sure he refused to goto a World Cup cause of the Mickey Mouse setup of fai, do people think he’d hang around to fight for the glazers or INEOs? He’d be gone a season after joining.
I think United captain role has been a lightening rod for players to get dogs abuse. And while I don’t think Bruno is the kind of captain I’d always want, I think he’s done it really well to be fair. He can take the pressure and the abuse which is more then most the lightweight modern footballers can take.
Keane’s response to the Maddison thing was great
I’d nearly be happy for Bruno to goto a decent club with a chance of winning things cause he really doesn’t deserve the abuse he’s getting here.
Keane would've jumped ship if United were in a similar spot when he was here ,without question.
Look I love Keane for what he did for us and his on pitch personality.
But he was far from perfect as a captain. We could fill pages with uncaptain like behaviour.
When Bruno has his manager getting him out of a police cell we'll know it's bad. When Bruno strops that his pre season villa isn't good enough and stays separately to the rest of the players we'll know it's bad.
So on and so on.
Roy Keane was arrested and spent a night in the cells a few days before the FA Cup final in 1999.
Is that captain like? Is that showing good character ?
Again, I think Keane was one of the greatest players we've ever had but let's not act like he was the perfect captain. I think towards the end of his time here he was a negative presence in the dressing room, it's not a surprise the other players seemed to relax and improve after Fergie essentially sacked him.
Is that captain like? Is that showing good character ?
Again, I think Keane was one of the greatest players we've ever had but let's not act like he was the perfect captain. I think towards the end of his time here he was a negative presence in the dressing room, it's not a surprise the other players seemed to relax and improve after Fergie essentially sacked him.
I wish Roy Keane would get some therapy and make peace with himself. His zealous proclamation that he is not a United fan and doesn't have a special connection with the club seems at odds with a) being the central figure of United's away kit release last year, presumably pocketing a fair wedge for his time and b) spending 95% of his time on telly getting worked up about United. It must be strange being Roy Keane at times.
Gary says he can understand keeping Ten hag in the summer because "no United fan wanted him sacked then"
What planet does he live on? Or is he just desperate not to criticize INEOS. He is at least critical of the decision to close the canteen.
What planet does he live on? Or is he just desperate not to criticize INEOS. He is at least critical of the decision to close the canteen.
About time we saw a return to form from Roy. That's the real passionate bloke not the pundit.
Pashun!
Since INEOS have come on board his critical direction has somewhat changed to constant squad bashing.
It would've been interesting listening to his views regarding the clubs recent redundancies. I imagine , him being a Manchester lad, would be upset that potentially hundreds of locals and north based people have now been made jobless.
Now I get the criticism levelled at the squad but, from a guy who was constantly looking at the bigger picture and being utterly critical of Glazer ownership, its amazing how quiet he's been of late regarding Ineo's and Sir Ratcliffe.
And Keane, well. He comes across as a angry simpleton half the time.
He sounded like a wet wipe
You can tell him
Nah I also love the guyYou can tell him
I'm sure he would have been happy to but didnt seem like clubs were lining up to get him out of Manchester.
I’m with wrighty. We would be in the relegation zone without Bruno’s contributions. Our many issues are not down to him, even though he can be frustrating in his play at times. Roy was damn near frothing at the mouth going off on Bruno. Poor form from him.
Bruno is one guy amongst others. Are they expecting him to win games on his own ?
Its a team sport.
Its a team sport.
Can be entertaining when it's the right sort of reminiscing about the good old days.
When it's just the constant current lot = crap with bad attitidues, old lot = brilliant in all ways it is truly tedious, and we get it.
When it's just the constant current lot = crap with bad attitidues, old lot = brilliant in all ways it is truly tedious, and we get it.