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The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Nope.
Nah. He’s the one.
No, he would not be here.
If they sack Jose now, it will cost a large sum of money.
If they sack him when CL qualification for next year is impossible, then it's cheaper.
The board are waiting till CL qualification for next year is impossible. As soon as this happens, Jose will most likely be given his marching orders. If the next manager prefers to start in the Summer, then Jose will stay till then.
It would appear that some fans on this forum still have not learned the way our board function. It's all about money. If you can save £15M and get crap results on the pitch, they'll take that option.
I am not against this entirely as long as they have lined up the right person to take over in the summer - I am not at all convinced that will be the case though.
The maddest thing is, I have no doubt that his few defenders he has left on here will be out to defend him again if we beat Cardiff.
Won't make a difference. We just got completely humiliated by our biggest rivals and have done nothing
Yep. Humiliated is a good description. Personally I felt embarrassed. They were light years ahead of us and not just because we were so inept.
My thoughts are:
Does Jose know what is wrong - yes
Is resolving the problem now beyond him - yes
Are we really likely to finish in the top 4 - no
Will the club be able to find a proper replacement who is likely to resolve this problem - wish I was confident about that.
Any hope of the PSG job will be out the window when they see how bad we are in the flesh
Thought so. It's going to take a while to purge ourselves from his stench.Didn't he know about already at the eve of that Newcastle game? Or was he so naive enough to believe that Jose deserves more time?
This guy once said that he would never sack wenger.
I do agree with supporting your manager idea. To feel the support of the fans gives you more confidence to do your job. But, there comes a time where the benifit of the club is more than of the manager. Right now the manager is doing more damage than good to the club. In the end we are United fans not Mourinho or Van Gal fans. The club always comes first
By "He was at it" I am gethering he means the constant sniping about not getting what he wanted in the transfer market and the constant undermining of the players?
Honestly I know everyone says it makes you a bad fan but I don't want us to beat Cardiff.
My rationale is since we aren't gegetti 4th who gives a shit were we come. Also I am not interested in Jose job being constantly saved by beating the worst teams in the league.
I can't do it anymore. Made the decision to not attend anynany games under Jose too but that is more a personal thing about not wasting money. Will still begrudgingly watch from home.
My rationale is since we aren't gegetti 4th who gives a shit were we come. Also I am not interested in Jose job being constantly saved by beating the worst teams in the league.
I can't do it anymore. Made the decision to not attend anynany games under Jose too but that is more a personal thing about not wasting money. Will still begrudgingly watch from home.
It's the fact that we played like minnows and still got beat handily. I've seen us get thrashed by Liverpool or City before, but the only time we actively looked like a small time club were under Moyes and Mourinho.
Well, Moyes started "okay", but got worse. We were tumbling down the league and were in 7th when he was sacked.
Jose is rising up (and now holding position in) the league.
For me Moyes was the absolute worst. Anyone who argues otherwise doesn't know much about football.
LVG was also worse in his final season, as we would struggle to even get a shot on goal. 0-0 was actually quite normal, under LVG.
We finished 5th and Jose still has a chance to do better than that (bear in mind that this season still has most of it to run).
In saying all of the above, I don't think that there is any doubt that Jose has taken us as far as he can and another manager now needs to have his turn (before he too, is sacked in 2-3 years).
Bring on the mighty Cardiff, if we can beat them, all will be well!
We can lose the next 3-4 games and Jose still won't get the sack.
Every match people say, "I want us to lose, so Jose is sacked"...and when we lose, he still remains.
People need to wise up.
SAF didn’t want to get rid of Pogba. He was offered a contract and turned it down. I thought everyone knew this by now?!
You guys can repeat it as much as you want, it won't make it true.
Fergie didn't get rid of Pogba.
He wanted Pogba to remain as he recognised he'd become a great player.
Thank you, next.
Yeah I get you but would be hard to see him survive a loss to Cardiff. Either way I just want him gone asap. That comeback versus Newcastle haunts me thinking he might have already been gone. We had the chance to save our season back then.
Ed is spinless though sadly.
Exactly.
This top red nonsense will get us nowhere.
No other big club would stand for this. Not Bayern, Real or even Barca.
Heck.. Not even Liverpool.
fecking hell, this Myth never dies.
At the current rate Liverpool will finish 42 points ahead of us with a goal difference 67 higher than us. City will be 40 points ahead of us with a goal difference advantage over us of 85.
When the NYSE opens
Ferguson gave Pogba a contract to stay.
It was Paul who chose to leave.
Sir Alex himself confirmed this. Stop lying
If it's gonna happen it's surely gonna be today or tomorrow
We aren’t that lucky, he’ll be here till March
Already would've happened by now. Clubs usually break this kind of news first before training.
Lads, deep down you all know he’s here until CL qualification is mathematically impossible. Foolish to think anything else.
It's not a nice accusation but I think that they are being dishonest, I don't know if it's on purpose or not but when Keane compares City's and Liverpool's spending, when he pretends that Mourinho hasn't been backed he is just lying. Mourinho has been backed but when you compare the signings that Guardiola made for the first XI most have been successful, same thing with Klopp. The issue with Mourinho is that his signings have mainly added nothing, Pogba is the only player that has contributed to a relatively high standard and even then we can all say a bad thing or two about him.
It's easy to say that Mourinho should be backed and his signings should be moved on, but you need to find someone willing to take them off your hands and if you don't get your money back you are spending a shameful amount of money that you don't even have.
That is why I won't be bothered by United until he leaves, unfortunately I'll be rooting for City so pool wont win the league
Unfortunately a good Caf myth never dies.
Pogba refusing to sign for SAF, the greatest manager of his era and not trust his development with him and our club at that time is probably an early indication that the guy is hard to handle. I'm pretty sure SAF would have had a fair few run ins with him if he had stayed and he was trying to decide for himself our approach to games and his role in the team.
I now accept that it is time for a change. There is no signs of any improvement and nothing he has tried has had any affect.
However, what I find so frustrating is that Jose Mourinho not only is a top manager but he has had great success at every other club.
He will be successful I am sure at whatever club he next leads.
The current situation at OT has now gone beyond his ability to fix so yes it is time to change. Deep down I believe he knows this as he seemed very relaxed during yesterday's post match press conference.
Mate that is rubbish. He wanted game time, was told he wasn't going to get it and left for Juventus. At Juventus, he became an instant starter and furthered his career tremendously. If you begrudge a young player for wanting game time and then proving he deserved it then you have a problem.
Pogba justified his move by going to Juventus. He did the same thing as Sancho at city so does that make him a hard to handle player? Cause he didn't want to sit on the bench knowing he had the quality to play? Jose is the only manager to have a problem with Pogba.
The rest seem to think he is a model professional and a great leader.
I think he is of the same mind as me where sacking Mourinho isn't going to be the decision that sees Manchester United challenge again, until the wider problems in the club are addressed.
It's been corrected so many times, still same nonsense is posted so many times.
In this thread especially, facts don't really seem to matter.
Looking at our fixtures in February/March, thats when he will be sacked. I guessed right after the City game mid March and that could well be true.
Can already hear Mourinho's excuses about PSG having invested heavily in players when they knock us out
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