The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%
  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%
  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%

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I honestly can't believe how someone can keep fecking it up in his 3rd season. I defended him, believing that we won't go through the same thing. But now it's happening to us, and I hate that I'm having to go through the feeling of being excited about our manager being sacked.
 
People surely cant want him to stay? there's nothing left.

No style, no defence, no attack, no midfield....no basic gameplan, there's not a single positive.
 
If I was Woodward I’d have walked out at 2-0 telling Evra I’ve got work to do.
 
We can't keep sacking managers.

We did after Busby and eventually got the right man in Fergie. It happens at many other clubs until they eventually get the right man in charge (subject to getting player recruitment right etc). You should never hold on to a manager just for the sake of being renowned as more loyal to managers than other clubs.
 
Mourinho has managed to turn Manchester United into mid table garbage. He has spent the first months of the season bemoaning our lack of transfer activity and alienating himself with just about every body at the club, at what fecking stage does Woodward come to his senses and turf this idiot out of the club?There are no more arguments left to make for a should he shouldn't he stay, results and performances speak for themselves.

Great username.
 
Mourinho fired shots at a number of people in his BT interview. As always it was all implied, but the centre backs, his scouts and Martial all got targeted.

He essentially conceded that he only picked Martial over Sanchez as the fans were calling for it (and that the implication was that it wasn’t going to be the solution).
 
His time is probably up, yeah. However, the point scoring in here is not very classy.

The point scoring by the ‘Mourinho in’ crowd is the worst thing I’ve ever seen on here. Bar maybe a few posters, no one has anything against him personally but they’re fed up and see he’s actively hurting the club. The people that want him gone want him gone for the good of the club and to try move us in a positive direction. How anyone can watch our directionless tactics and mismatch lineups and think it’s anything but shambolic is beyond me.

The ‘Mourihno in’ crowd have zero arguments and are regurgitateing the same fallices time-and-again. They won’t back down because they’ve backed their man, insulted numerous posters and took the holier-than-thou stance so they stubbornly and arrogantly stick to their opinions. It’s not working everyone can see it. So why anyone still believes he can stop the rot and turn it around, is just mental to me. He’s a huge, huge part of the rot. But yeah petty internet point scoring is keeping his staunch defenders talking rubbish and taking the moral high ground.
 
For the Love of God, can someone please provide me with links to the performances of Pogba's which demonstrate that he's the best, better than all the rest, better than De Bruyne, Silva, Modric, Kroos, Ozil etc? When are people gonna realise that both he AND Jose need to do one? "Treating Pogba like trash?" Why? Because he doesn't reward him for turning in dross performances? Pogba's had about half a dozen really good games in over two years, at best, yet according to some NONE of this is his responsibility? The Poba diehards are embarrassing. He's all hype. Get rid of the pair of them.

You underestimate just how good he is.

If prime Iniesta was under this clown, he would suffer too. Yes Pogba is the best midfielder since Iniesta.

He's better than any of those players you listed plus Rakitic, Busqets, Coutinho, Verratti, Koke, Kovacic, Fabregas and anyone else you can think.

He's a legendary player and deserves to win at club level now after leading his nation to a WC.
 
What is the point in persisting with him?. It’s inevitable that He will be sacked in the summer, other than saving money in terms of compensation by sacking him now I can’t see any other benefit.
 
The same thing happened at Chelsea, the players often showed enough to win the odd game, although lost most of them until Jose was sacked. Those same players, the ones Jose blamed for everything, proved themselves far superior the following season under a new manager. Is it a coincidence that they suddenly began performing for a new manager under new tactics?

I don't see the similarity. I think that Chelsea team was very different. Mentally more resilient for one. With that run of 3 wins and Spurs I think it was designed by Mourinho and his coaching staff. Not that I disagree about some players turning on and off, which is inexcusable.

When you lot finally get your new manager we'll still have the problems of being an atrociously badly run club that has stockpiled players that aren't good enough, paying them wages that far exceed their abilities and acquired them by paying way over the top for them. A new manager may identify 3-4 players to buy and we'll pay 200% market value for them and give them a wage packet that makes them think they've gotten away with the perfect crime.

I don't think this club will go back to the top until the inbred subhumans sell up.
 
Not wanting him to be sacked makes no fecking sense at this point. I mean what's the problem ? Do we need to battle for relegation for that ?

Apparently, it's 'taboo' to sack your manager in September.

The date in question is literally the only reasoning the Jose In crowd can come up with. Ridiculous to be honest.
 
The point scoring by the ‘Mourinho in’ crowd is the worst thing I’ve ever seen on here. Bar maybe a few posters, no one has anything against him personally but they’re fed up and see he’s actively hurting the club. The people that want him gone want him gone for the good of the club and to try move us in a positive direction. How anyone can watch our directionless tactics and mismatch lineups and think it’s anything but shambolic is beyond me.

The ‘Mourihno in’ crowd have zero arguments and are regurgitateing the same fallices time-and-again. They won’t back down because they’ve backed their man, insulted numerous posters, took the holier-than-thou stance so they stubbornly and arrogant stick to their opinions. It’s not working everyone can see it. So why anyone still believes he can stop the rot and turn it around, is just mental to me. He’s a huge, huge part of the rot. But yeah petty internet point scoring is keeping his staunch defenders talking rubbish and taking the moral high ground.

I can only speak for myself, but I have no problems with holding up my hands and say that it's clear it's not going to work out with Mourinho here. We can go back and forth all day, but the point scoring has been just as bad on both sides.
 
You are probably popping the champagne right now.:)

I have had a difficult time understanding why you and others have been so outraged over Mourinhos antics. Now, I have to admit that it's possible it has had a negative impact on our football, and that you were right.

I think you have made some good points regarding Mourinho btw, it's just unfortunate that you felt the need to insult so many fans in your famous thread. But some have a bigger need for attention than others, I understand that.
You did get lambasted for it though so I hope you learned your lesson. At least you did manage to show of your writing skills.

I am actually on the verge of joining the out camp right now, but that might still change when the emotions stabilise again. One more loss and I'm definitely out though. If he does get fired tomorrow, I won't have anything against it. It's not like I'm oblivious to the problems we've had, I just have more patience. You are welcome to exaggerate about how I will continue to back Mourinho no matter what but that's far from the truth, and I genuinely hope that no one is that biased to do that.

That is a reasonable post and I know I will never have to write such a post ever again - we may have more managers who fail, but I don't think we'll ever see such a manipulative toxic manager ever again.
 
That’s ridiculous. You’re also conveniently forget about Kevin’s arrogance for instance.

ANYWAY, it’s time to move on. Mourinho should go - not that I think the next guy will do better - but he it’s probably time to try something else.
@Kevin is very arrogant, yes, but he gets plenty of abuse so I get why he likes to rub it in when he's right, which he was again. It's not like he insults anyone either, which, let's be honest, you did to me and others when we questioned Mourinho's management.

Still, we both want the same thing so I'm not trying to rub it in. I'd have preferred José to have been a success believe it or not. Hopefully our next manager brings happier times and we can celebrate future success together because I don't wanna argue with you.
 
There’s no turnaround from here. Things are broken and sadly I can’t see how they can be fixed. I’ve back Jose all the way but I can’t see the situation being salvaged. He will need to go and if I see no reason to hang about if that’s the case.
 
Mourinho fired shots at a number of people in his BT interview. As always it was all implied, but the centre backs, his scouts and Martial all got targeted.

He essentially conceded that he only picked Martial over Sanchez as the fans were calling for it (and that the implication was that it wasn’t going to be the solution).

Wow, he's literally David Moyes now if so.
 
Genuine question to those who still support him. What is the logic behind it ?How do you see him turning things out around properly (not for a few games here and there) ?
 
Ferdinand says it is "difficult to say" it is the end for Mourinho. It's not. IT IS THE END FOR MOURINHO.
 
Today will go down as a brilliant day for our football club eventually.

It has been clear for some time that Mourinho isn't the right man. I think today has only confirmed that view. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go.

For too long the spectre of Mourinho has hung over this football club. When Moyes and LVG were here there were hundreds of pages asking for him to be employed. There were constant arguments between two sets of fans.

No more. We now have proof. He was a poor appointment, he will go and we will rebuild.

We still have some class players. Martial, Rashford, Pogba and De Gea are still young. We are a massively rich club.

We have to get behind the new manager. Every fan knows there is no quick fix any more. We will rebuild and we will win that premier league trophy and it will be so fecking good.

We've lost today, but the fan base is ready to be United once more. Focus on that day because it isn't long to wait now.

Agree. We dealt with the poor approach because we got the results but without those its a fairly uninspiring mess.

Needs a new approach.everyone knows it.

Unfortunately history shows there's no chance we'll get this change for a long time m
Van gaal survived three abysmal dec defeats in a row and only went when top 4 was finally not going to be achieved.
Moyes same deal.

We have full on third season syndrome.
Falling out with key players. A toxic mess.and the board vetoing signings.
Why didnt they get ridin the summer if they wouldn't back him?
 
="Bastian, post: 23121910, member: 97858"]I don't see the similarity. I think that Chelsea team was very different. Mentally more resilient for one. With that run of 3 wins and Spurs I think it was designed by Mourinho and his coaching staff. Not that I disagree about some players turning on and off, which is inexcusable.

When you lot finally get your new manager we'll still have the problems of being an atrociously badly run club that has stockpiled players that aren't good enough, paying them wages that far exceed their abilities and acquired them by paying way over the top for them. A new manager may identify 3-4 players to buy and we'll pay 200% market value for them and give them a wage packet that makes them think they've gotten away with the perfect crime.

I don't think this club will go back to the top until the inbred subhumans sell up.

The similarity between Jose's third season with Chelsea and his current season with United is glaringly obvious, so much so that I'm shocked you do not see it.

I laughed at people when they suggested the same thing would happen with United, I couldn't for the life of me imagine us suffering the same fate, but it has happened. They were right. People need to be honest and admit it.
 
Yes, Scholesy, there is something drastically wrong. His name is Mourinho. He is poison right now.
 
Get SAF to do the Heynckes for the rest of the season :D
Nevermind his recent hemorrhage, more of this football would be even worse for his health!
 
Rio confirming there is a civil war in a dressing room. Believes the board have a decision to make.
 
I can only speak for myself, but I have no problems with holding up my hands and say that it's clear it's not going to work out with Mourinho here. We can go back and forth all day, but the point scoring has been just as bad on both sides.

Maybe it has but I find the ‘in’ crowd extremely patronising with little actual arguments to back up what they’re repeating on a daily basis.

I was wrong hands up from me. I wanted him and thought he would bring us back to the top table. I supported him right up until this season but enough is enough. I won’t blindly stick to my original assertions and I have formed my opioion that I want him out based on everything that is happening. Are some people being belligerent and so purposely obtuse, that they won’t open their eyes and see the shit we are in?
 
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