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The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Thing is we all know what his record is but football is unforgiving. The minute a season is over you prepare for the next one.
SAF and his trusted players were experts at this. If anyone remembers the 07/08 season I think it was where we won away at Wigan 2-0 there's a scene where we celebrate winning the league but Giggs is telling the players that we go again next season.
SAF had it bad as well during the 05/06 season, we were knocked out by Benfica in group stages, Chelsea romped in the league and it was tough.
Mourinho needs to lift himself up. Get back out tomorrow morning and show the fans what he can do. The title isn't over yet. Yes 3/9 points is terrible but please don't lose it.
Not overly but it seems you are.
that would of KO'd him.Good post mate.. 100% this.
That's fine but who do the club hire?
Alright detective.
Enters the PL as a young, fashionable, handsome manager with purring quotes being the “Special One” leaves as an old man with wiry Hair, snarling at the press, shouting for “Respic, I won 3, give me respicc.” Will be a funny but slightly tragic story for us to look back on.
If Mourinho goes then Chris Smalling and Phil Jones will have outlasted 3 Manchester United managers as first choice CBs.
Suggests the problem may not be in the dugout.
Suggests the problem may not be in the dugout.
Truth is his legacy has been heavily tarnished due to his last two club stints. So imagine you’ve built an entire career and have revolutionised the league to an extent (when he first joined Chelsea, he really changed the playing field. I honestly think him joining Chelsea led us to win that 08 champions league), for it to all end with a tarnished reputation. It’s fecking rough.
He really can't help himself in these conferences, and they usually backfire on him. Let go of the past Jose
Loses 2 out of first 3 games of the season and most of you want Jose out?
Harsh.
The next manager is unlikely to last more than 2 seasons if it were left to fans, we'd have a new manager every season.
Moyes. LVG. Now Jose. Who next?
Harsh.
The next manager is unlikely to last more than 2 seasons if it were left to fans, we'd have a new manager every season.
Moyes. LVG. Now Jose. Who next?
You're in fine form tonight.
We need to stick with Jose. He still has fire in his belly. The players need to man up like the manager and fecking play better. It’s us against them mentality needs to be there. You cannot always blame the manager for everything!
Excellent perspective.
Listen up feckwits. You might learn something about the club's history.
Zidane will come and turn things quickly..
He’s been backed into a corner by an accountant.
Woodward should have had a sack thread first.
You don’t back the manager of a building project then not get him the materials that he’s requested.
Our defence is shite and the rest of the team is nervous because of it. We played Smalling and Jones who were getting flak from fans when SAF was in charge.
I think this is the end, by sack or walkout, but the majority of the blame should go on Woodward.
Woodward should have had a sack thread first.
You don’t back the manager of a building project then not get him the materials that he’s requested.
Our defence is shite and the rest of the team is nervous because of it. We played Smalling and Jones who were getting flak from fans when SAF was in charge.
I think this is the end, by sack or walkout, but the majority of the blame should go on Woodward.
Forget Fergie! It’s 2018 and Mourinho is no Fergie. He’s had the same play style since he first burst onto the scene with Porto. He isn’t changing over night for anybody.
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Frankly I'm just fed up of smug United fans on their horses belittling those of us who have negative opinions of the club, or want managers or players sacked/sold. We do it because we care about the club. Those berks who applaud a 3-0 loss care more about how they are perceived as supporters than they do about the plight of our club. I have no time for that attitude. I don't care if I'm called a moaner or any other name, I only care about what is best for Manchester United. I could see it months ago just as I can see it now; Jose is not good for Manchester United. We have a poor manager, we have poor players, and we have a poor team. Change is needed now, not in 6 months when everything has descended in to farce and turmoil. We need to be proactive not reactive. That's how things improve. Applauding this rubbish and patting each other on he back for being amazing fans isn't going to improve a damned thing.
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Yeah, sack Mourinho , new manager with half a working brain cell will want rid of Phil Jones, Smalling, Valencia, Darmian, Young & Rojo.
Doesn't even make any sense.
Walks out crying like a child asking for respect.
The type of shit he ended up doing at Chelsea and had other teams fans dying for him to stay.
Someone not obsessed with being solid/setting up structure or whatever.
You seem to making this same silly argument that we couldn’t possibly have hired three crap/wrong managers in a row and my argument is, why not? Why couldn’t we have done that?
People hoping for him to be sacked now are going to be disappointed I feel. He will get until the end of the season.
3 matches is not the sample I'm looking at.
270 minutes of football is what I'm looking at.
The signs from those 270 minutes are all so uniformly negative that I'm confident in my judgement that Mourinho is a lame duck.
If this were simply a string of unlucky results, I'd be right beind the manager. Instead, what I'm seeing is total disarry and a gameplan that isn't being adhered to in any cohesive way. For manager who's been in the hotseat for over two years, that's almost impossible to come back from. If he stays, he won't be able to do anything more than paper over the cracks.
It's fair enough if Mourninho wanted new players. I can see why he would. But that means he believes the squad currently at his disposal is not the right formula for his management style.
Again, it's fair enough that styles sometimes clash.
But it's also fair enough that United should want a head coach who can get a winning formula out of the current squad. It's time to make the change.
And I'm saying all this as a heretofore unwavering supporter of Jose at Old Trafford. Up til now, I've accepted every bump in the road because transitions usually are bumpy. But what I'm seeing at the moment isn't just a bumpy road ahead. It's Mourinho taking us in reverse back down the same bumpy road we were supposed to have crossed.
270 minutes of football is what I'm looking at.
The signs from those 270 minutes are all so uniformly negative that I'm confident in my judgement that Mourinho is a lame duck.
If this were simply a string of unlucky results, I'd be right beind the manager. Instead, what I'm seeing is total disarry and a gameplan that isn't being adhered to in any cohesive way. For manager who's been in the hotseat for over two years, that's almost impossible to come back from. If he stays, he won't be able to do anything more than paper over the cracks.
It's fair enough if Mourninho wanted new players. I can see why he would. But that means he believes the squad currently at his disposal is not the right formula for his management style.
Again, it's fair enough that styles sometimes clash.
But it's also fair enough that United should want a head coach who can get a winning formula out of the current squad. It's time to make the change.
And I'm saying all this as a heretofore unwavering supporter of Jose at Old Trafford. Up til now, I've accepted every bump in the road because transitions usually are bumpy. But what I'm seeing at the moment isn't just a bumpy road ahead. It's Mourinho taking us in reverse back down the same bumpy road we were supposed to have crossed.
It’s as simple as we need to do a prevention job to prevent us from spiralling into an abyss that could take years to get out of and it doesn’t just begin and end with Jose being fired from his role.
Ed Woodward is an amazing person to work on commercial deals and bring lots of money into the club but he’s fecking clueless on the football side of things and shouldn’t be in both roles, bring in a Sporting Director/D.O.F to run that side of things without any involvement from Ed AT ALL.
Jose needs to be removed from his role now as he’s very much at the start of a full blown meltdown and the impact it could have on us post Jose is potentially HUGE so remove him now and prevent the long term rot setting in, he’s lost the players completely and there’s a definite disconnect between him and his own bosses too.
There’s no tactics, no first choice 11, no cohesion, no style, no plan and no leadership on the pitch or from the sidelines. Tonight’s team selection and formation screamed of a manager saying “sack me and pay me as I don’t give a feck, you didn’t give me what I wanted in the summer so I’ve had enough” and Jose is clever so once we implode if they don’t sack him he’ll put it on the board not back him to save his own reputation or if they do sack him he’ll get £12 million and again just blame the board anyway so he doesn’t lose either way.
Ed Woodward is an amazing person to work on commercial deals and bring lots of money into the club but he’s fecking clueless on the football side of things and shouldn’t be in both roles, bring in a Sporting Director/D.O.F to run that side of things without any involvement from Ed AT ALL.
Jose needs to be removed from his role now as he’s very much at the start of a full blown meltdown and the impact it could have on us post Jose is potentially HUGE so remove him now and prevent the long term rot setting in, he’s lost the players completely and there’s a definite disconnect between him and his own bosses too.
There’s no tactics, no first choice 11, no cohesion, no style, no plan and no leadership on the pitch or from the sidelines. Tonight’s team selection and formation screamed of a manager saying “sack me and pay me as I don’t give a feck, you didn’t give me what I wanted in the summer so I’ve had enough” and Jose is clever so once we implode if they don’t sack him he’ll put it on the board not back him to save his own reputation or if they do sack him he’ll get £12 million and again just blame the board anyway so he doesn’t lose either way.
I voted Mourinho out, but The Glazers, i fecking hate them, they should be out before him.
Football’s moved on. Utterly pointless to compare football to 25 years ago. Rose tinted specs.
Spot on, there's no magic wand here. We've got to be realistic, no one is going to come in at this moment and improve us.
I voted out but I really want him to turn it around. It just seems the damage has been done and he can’t get a tune out of his players.
I couldn’t tell you if the players are tired or don’t want to play for him. All I can tell you is a new manager should get a better tune out of the players
I couldn’t tell you if the players are tired or don’t want to play for him. All I can tell you is a new manager should get a better tune out of the players
The fans should be sticking by this manager. Times are tough but he can turn this around.
Poor Jose having to make do with the materials he’s already spent 300 mill on... I’d love to see the reaction to posts like this off managers who have to scrimp and scrape at smaller clubs in the league.
at some point people will have to stop with this glazers thing man, mourinho has been backed with £400M and the team still lacks basic competence
New manager with half a brain will make them look like decent players again
Jardim, Poch, Zidane? We could get any of them if we really tried. We're Manchester United. They're not Klopp or Pep but better than what we have now.
Smalling and Bailly seem to be the only option.
Being honest though this is completely Jose's fault. He's spent big money on two CBs already. He had 2 chances to sign that consistent starter you speak of and fluffed it both times. How many chances should he get? What happened to the Jose who knew how to sign defenders? How did signing Lindelof ever make sense? Seriously? I could tell within 10 minutes of his first game that he wasn't up to it here. What was Jose thinking?
100% right
I agree with this. People saying Lindelof for 30 million etc is why Mou should go....when Utd come calling that is peanuts for a defender now. You have to spend massively to get the right players and some will stick and some simply won't – it's never guaranteed. A lot of Fergie's transfers didn't work out either, but he got the backing to spend (what was then) another four or five million on someone else. These days it's like the manager can't get one or two transfers wrong before the board are all over it.
He spent about £30 million on Bailly and Lindelof and they’re crap.
Lukaku can get away with bullying defences of lower teams, but he doesn’t have the quality to cut it against the top teams.
Never thought Mourinho was a United manager. Too fond of parking the bus, which is not the United way.
Lukaku can get away with bullying defences of lower teams, but he doesn’t have the quality to cut it against the top teams.
Never thought Mourinho was a United manager. Too fond of parking the bus, which is not the United way.
Amen to that, brother. The more you care, the more you feel hurt.
He may as well have stared into the camera and say “I dare you to sack me”. He won’t walk. He’d be stupid to pass up that ridiculous severance payment he’d get.
After seeing how Klopp got a lot more out of King Brennys Liverpool setup, it’s possible that all it takes is just a new guy in there to turn stuff around. It may not reap immediate benefits but it will further down the line. There’s plenty of other examples out there to support it. I wont believe that this collection of players can play so disjointed with each other.
After seeing how Klopp got a lot more out of King Brennys Liverpool setup, it’s possible that all it takes is just a new guy in there to turn stuff around. It may not reap immediate benefits but it will further down the line. There’s plenty of other examples out there to support it. I wont believe that this collection of players can play so disjointed with each other.
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