Gimme 10 folks
The Modern / Current Players Draft
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Everyone has their own favourites and there are no standouts like Cutch and NM in the last draft. Discussions are going to be really interesting (and heated) as there is going to be quite a chasm in how many rate the quality a contentious individual and inevitably, the peak argument will rear its ugly head again. At least the players are all recent, so voters will have a fair bit of firsthand knowledge to make up their mind from.
One of my unobvious favorites remains unpickedAnd he is better than a lot of already picked players. He barely makes the ages criteria though, maybe some just assumed that he didn't.
Why? I don't see any weakness in T.Silva-Mertsesacker, not on the ground and not aerially, and Ivanovic's role will change between opponents. Ivanovic is an amazing attack RB, like you can see in nowadays' Chelsea, Ivanovic gets as high up the pitch as Alves does, it all depends on how the opposition's team is set up
With pedro and gotze both preferring to cut in, I think your team would have benefited more having a more attacking RB who will contribute more in offense than defense. Having a dedicated DM who can drop in to cover will make up for any fallacies on that side.
Not that ivanovic is a bad fullback, just that he is more defensive orientated.
I get your way of thought, but with Clichy given the freedom to bombard that other wing I prefer more balance and having a smart strict player like Ivanovic who can choose his times of attack and be the third man in defense instead of that DM(freeing Song when he's not roaming), than a RB like Dani Alves who would have made me need a water carrier. But I appreciate the criticism mate
That is a good point, hadnt considered that it will allow song to play his natural game as well.
Lichsteiner is very good defensively though. Its just that Juve play five at the back and they need someone to run up and down the flank consistenly as a RWB due to which he plays in a very attacking role but he has done very well for them as well as before in Lazio in a four man set-up whenever they've employed it. Currently he has, slowed down a bit due to his age which has affected his defensive game as he isn't able to track back as well as he used to but since we are considering his prime, I don't think his defense would be an issue. Marcelo point, I agree but he has improved his defense since Jose took over at Madrid and isn't a liability he used to be defensively pre-2010.
Hargreaves isn't obviously a Busquets or Cambiasso but I think he was still a good passer for a player in his position. I don't need him to create for me. He just needs to win the ball back and give it to Ramsey/Iniesta/Cazorla to start and orchestrate the attacks.
That's a shame really, because Hargreaves isn't the type of midfielder you want "just to win the ball back and give it to a midfielder". Hargreaves is no Busquets of Cambiasso but he's more of a Carrick imo, he can get passes forward really well but he definitely shouldn't be deployed as a water carrier. That's a bad use of him.
- Pat_Mustard: 1. Xavi 2. Villa 3. Dani Alves 4. Barzagli 5. Verratti 6. Laporte 7. Tevez 8. Kwadwo Asamoah 9. Deisler 10.Mandanda 11. Lars Bender
- Raees: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Hummels 3. Chiellini 4. De Jong 5. Gundogan 6. Isco 7. Carvajal 8. Park Ji Sung 9. Higuain 10. C Bravo 11. Marquinhos
- Physiocrat: 1. Robben 2. Fabregas 3. J. Boateng 4. Wilshere 5. Alba 6. Nani 7. Rafael 8. Berbatov 9. Vermalean 10. Igor Akinfeev 11. Gustavo
- MJJ: 1. Kaká 2. Torres 3. Essien 4. Matic 5. Pique 6. Neuer 7. Baines 8. Sokratis 9. Piszczek 10. Pjanic 11. Cassano
- Stobzilla: 1. Lahm 2. Alaba 3. Vidal 4. Rooney 5. Turan 6. Özil 7. Griezmann 8. Luiz 9. Bonucci 10. Valdes 11. Otamendi
- The Red Viper: 1. Iniesta 2. Terry 3. Neymar 4. Van Persie 5. Hargreaves 6. Marcelo 7. Cahill 8. Lichtsteiner 9. Ramsey 10. Sirigu 11. Cazorla
- Isotope: 1. Suárez 2. Eto'o 3. Mascherano 4. Pepe 5. Koke 6. Chivu 7. Marchisio 8. Sagna 9. Mata 10. Keylor Navas 11. Balzaretti
- Theon: 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Ibrahimovic 3. Sánchez 4. Sneijder 5. De Gea 6. Koscielny 7. Khedira 8. Robinho 9. Kolo 10. Kolarov 11. Coleman
- BorisDeLedFora: 1. Vidic 2. Kompany 3. De Rossi 4. Cavani 5. Rakitic 6. Hamsik 7. Arbeloa 8. Vicente 9. Walcott 10. Ter Stegen 11. Richards
- Snow: 1. Hazard 2. Modric 3. Busquets 4. Azpilicueta 5. Adriano 6. Thiago 7.Srna 8. Garay 9. Badstuber 10. Lloris 11. Cuadrado
- VivaJanuzaj: 1. Thiago Silva 2. Yaya Touré 3. Ivanovic 4. Pogba 5. Gotze 6. Alex Song 7. Clichy 8. Diego Costa 9. Pedro 10. Mertesacker 11. Begović
- NoPace: 1. Kroos 2. Reus 3. Ramos 4. Di María 5. Ledley King 6. Falcao 7. Casillas 8. Filipe Luis 9. T.Rosicky 10. Motta 11. Debuchy
- Barney: 1. Gerrard 2. Alonso 3. Martínez 4. Benatia 5. Zabaleta 6. Ricardo Rodriguez 7.Valencia 8. Benzema 9. Demichelis 10. Hart 11. Podolski
- Skizzo: 1. Müller 2. Evra 3. Godín 4. D. Silva 5. Miranda 6. Sterling 7. Lewandowski 8. Matuidi 9. Juanfran 10. Handanovic 11. Lassana Diarra
- crappycraperson: 1. Ribery 2. Agüero 3. Varane 4. Carrick 5. Vertonghen 6. Cech 7. Lavezzi 8. Coentrao 9. Joaquin 10. Moutinho 11. Oscar
- NM: 1. Bale 2. Cole 3. Maicon 4. Cambiasso 5. James Rodriguez 6. Courtois 7. Subotic 8. Dante 9. Strootman 10. Mario Gomez 11.
I should have constructed that better. Obviously, he had more to his game than that but my point was, I don't need him to be a Busquets or Alonso. At the same time, when pressed, he had the ability to shrug off the challenges and give it to the attacking players instead of passing it back. He wasn't really a Gattuso or Makelele in that regards either. That is why I said even though he wasn't a Busquets or Alonso or Cambiasso in terms of metronome ability, he still was a good passer, especially for a player in his position.
I'm assuming my pick will come up before I get back.
@Joga Bonito has my last pick....anyone else gonna be around I can pass it on to? Just in case.
@Joga Bonito has my last pick....anyone else gonna be around I can pass it on to? Just in case.
Does @Edgar Allan Pillow has NM's pick?
You can PM me. I will be online for the next couple of hours!
PM on the way...cheers!
I'll be here too.
United players are so under-rated, it's a shame. There is a player who could match and beat any of the players playing against him who have already been picked, his nationality is no issue too.In his role, he is better than others with fancy names and reputations who withered in battles with him on the biggest stage
Are you sure he's post 80? If so, then I'm really clueless about who you are referring to.
ok maybe i might over-stated the case for him, but I do consider that at his peak he was much more effective and courageous than his highly-rated (on the caf) partner
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Nope. After last pick fiasco, he refuses to even reply to my pm.
Think I need to look for a new job.
He's certainly inclined to come inside, but he expertly played the very same inside-right role at Villarreal for many years. I see him complementing his full-back, the central midfield effort and Neymar's individuality on the other flank.
Thoughts with you, bhai!
When are we having a strike in front of NM's house?
With Neymar on the other hand I'd personally would've preferred a more classic winger to provide width there. The full backs are out being asked for too much in this team, I'll save the big explanation for whoever he'll encounter in the matchday thread but if both full backs will be creating the width here(as Neymar & Cazorla won't), Terry-Cahill-Hargreaves will be the players left behind, and I'd have good money that these trio will suffer from a good counter attacking team.
So it's one of two things - either it's a mistake playing Hargreaves as the more defensive midfielder, get a water carrier instead and allow Lichsteiner and Marcelo the freedom to bomb forward at will. The other option is that it's a mistake taking Cazorla, as you could've had a more proper winger there, letting Lichsteiner choose more carefully when to burst forward and that way not leaving your defense hanging on the hopes of a slowish trio at the back.
I just don't get the idea of having two very offensive full backs with not enough protection from midfield.
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People are either going to murder or love the way I am setting up. There will be no middle ground.
You are indian? Always thought you were german!
I'll pick in an hour. Omw to work just woke up. @edgar_allan_pillow scout some lws please
I have to admit I'm really uncertain of how you'll shape up.
My guess? Something crazy like this:
Valdes
David Luiz ---- Bonucci ---- Otamendi
----------------------------------------------------- Alaba
Lahm Vidal
Turan Ozil Griezmann
Rooney
With a 3 men + Alaba defensive line, Alaba as the LWB given freedom, Lahm as the RDM with Vidal in midfield and the front 4 pretty much explains itself.
Could be brilliant actually, will require many arrows which is always a plus
Something like this?I have to admit I'm really uncertain of how you'll shape up.
My guess? Something crazy like this:
Valdes
David Luiz ---- Bonucci ---- Otamendi
----------------------------------------------------- Alaba
Lahm Vidal
Turan Ozil Griezmann
Rooney
With a 3 men + Alaba defensive line, Alaba as the LWB given freedom, Lahm as the RDM with Vidal in midfield and the front 4 pretty much explains itself.
Could be brilliant actually, will require many arrows which is always a plus
@Stobzilla
Maybe I went too far with the crazy
I rate him pretty highly too but his peak was too short unfortunately.
On Stob's team, surely Lahm at RB and Luiz as DM.
Yeah probably but that's not crazy at all so where's the fun?
I'm not too fond of Bonucci in a 2 men defense, for me he was always the main reason Juve played that 3 men defense. Bonucci had a year(or more) that he was Juve's best long passer(by percentage) and their most efficient blocker of long shots. Bonucci was never the best tackler, but he dives really good to save shots and can start attacks from deep, with 4 at the back(and two of them offensive full backs) I wouldn't trust Bonucci as much, he won't be as good creating nor will he be good defending imo.
What's with the suspense? Show them your formation, @Stobzilla!
That's fantastic.
Colour me intrigued
Yeah. I'm Indian.
Not too different than what I thought, same basic idea with different positions that makes it look more semantic. Could've been be very interesting team to watch in reality.
the only problem I see with it is re Bonucci as I explained earlier, most RW would enjoy the 1on1 with him.