The Modern / Current Players Draft

  1. Pat_Mustard: 1. Xavi 2. Villa 3. Dani Alves 4. Barzagli 5. Verratti 6. Laporte 7. Tevez 8. Kwadwo Asamoah 9. Deisler 10.Mandanda 11. Lars Bender
  2. Raees: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Hummels 3. Chiellini 4. De Jong 5. Gundogan 6. Isco 7. Carvajal 8. Park Ji Sung 9. Higuain 10. C Bravo 11. Marquinhos
  3. Physiocrat: 1. Robben 2. Fabregas 3. J. Boateng 4. Wilshere 5. Alba 6. Nani 7. Rafael 8. Berbatov 9. Vermalean 10. Igor Akinfeev 11. Gustavo
  4. MJJ: 1. Kaká 2. Torres 3. Essien 4. Matic 5. Pique 6. Neuer 7. Baines 8. Sokratis 9. Piszczek 10. Pjanic 11. Cassano
  5. Stobzilla: 1. Lahm 2. Alaba 3. Vidal 4. Rooney 5. Turan 6. Özil 7. Griezmann 8. Luiz 9. Bonucci 10. Valdes 11. Otamendi
  6. The Red Viper: 1. Iniesta 2. Terry 3. Neymar 4. Van Persie 5. Hargreaves 6. Marcelo 7. Cahill 8. Lichtsteiner 9. Ramsey 10. Sirigu 11. Cazorla
  7. Isotope: 1. Suárez 2. Eto'o 3. Mascherano 4. Pepe 5. Koke 6. Chivu 7. Marchisio 8. Sagna 9. Mata 10. Keylor Navas 11. Balzaretti
  8. Theon: 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Ibrahimovic 3. Sánchez 4. Sneijder 5. De Gea 6. Koscielny 7. Khedira 8. Robinho 9. Kolo 10. Kolarov
  9. BorisDeLedFora: 1. Vidic 2. Kompany 3. De Rossi 4. Cavani 5. Rakitic 6. Hamsik 7. Arbeloa 8. Vicente 9. Walcott 10. Ter Stegen
  10. Snow: 1. Hazard 2. Modric 3. Busquets 4. Azpilicueta 5. Adriano 6. Thiago 7.Srna 8. Garay 9. Badstuber 10. Lloris
  11. VivaJanuzaj: 1. Thiago Silva 2. Yaya Touré 3. Ivanovic 4. Pogba 5. Gotze 6. Alex Song 7. Clichy 8. Diego Costa 9. Pedro 10. Mertesacker
  12. NoPace: 1. Kroos 2. Reus 3. Ramos 4. Di María 5. Ledley King 6. Falcao 7. Casillas 8. Filipe Luis 9. T.Rosicky 10. Motta
  13. Barney: 1. Gerrard 2. Alonso 3. Martínez 4. Benatia 5. Zabaleta 6. Ricardo Rodriguez 7.Valencia 8. Benzema 9. Demichelis 10. Hart
  14. Skizzo: 1. Müller 2. Evra 3. Godín 4. D. Silva 5. Miranda 6. Sterling 7. Lewandowski 8. Matuidi 9. Juanfran 10. Handanovic
  15. crappycraperson: 1. Ribery 2. Agüero 3. Varane 4. Carrick 5. Vertonghen 6. Cech 7. Lavezzi 8. Coentrao 9. Joaquin 10. Moutinho
  16. NM: 1. Bale 2. Cole 3. Maicon 4. Cambiasso 5. James Rodriguez 6. Courtois 7. Subotic 8. Dante 9. Strootman 10. Mario Gomez
 
Cutch said:
Hummels and Chiellini are 2 of the best in the draft, and Marquinhos and Carvajal are good prospects. I think its a good defence with plenty of graft in midfield also.
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Well, yeah I guess they are 2 of the best in the draft, not too sure about them together as a complimentary couple though, you can't just stick two big names together and expect them to do well.
I'm a big fan of Carvajal and what he's doing in RM, so the little criticism I have for him will be saved for the matchday thread, but Marquinhos as the LB? How well has he really done there before? I always thought he's mostly a CB. For a 20 year old that hasn't got too much top opponent experience I wouldn't trust him against most RWs.
 
VivaJanuzaj said:
Well, yeah I guess they are 2 of the best in the draft, not too sure about them together as a complimentary couple though, you can't just stick two big names together and expect them to do well.
I'm a big fan of Carvajal and what he's doing in RM, so the little criticism I have for him will be saved for the matchday thread, but Marquinhos as the LB? How well has he really done there before? I always thought he's mostly a CB. For a 20 year old that hasn't got too much top opponent experience I wouldn't trust him against most RWs.
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Unless Chiellini will deputise at left back and it will be Marquinhos marshalled by Hummels giving Carvajal more license to go forwards.
 
VivaJanuzaj said:
Very good looking midfield and attack, although you'd surely want someone different than Cazorla to provide that RW width with Neymar at the other hand. Cazorla's tendency will always be going through the middle or even from the left. Hargreaves-Ramsey-Iniesta is really good though. I'm not a big fan of the Terry-Cahill combo as Cahill gets slowly pushed out of the Chelsea formation nowadays by the young CB(not mentioning names) so Jose doesn't think they coordinate perfectly together. Lichsteiner and Marcelo aren't too fancy, they'll provide well in attack but I wouldn't be confident with them defensively.
Overall, it's still one of my favorite teams here. Well done.
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Cheers.

I don't think its possible to build a perfect central defense in this draft. The only chance is to have one is to have a central defense pairing Thiago Silva - Terry/Vidic. Rest of the pairings all have would have some sort of weakness as the pool of top CBs in modern era ain't much. Cahill isn't great or anything but he is a reliable defender and both him and Terry have done well together. And, Jose hasn't really pushed him out. Its just that he has used Zouma in a couple of games in between otherwise he went with Cahill and Terry against PSG and then against Spurs yesterday in the final.

As for Cazorla, I have him playing in the role he did at Villareal. The role David Silva plays for Manchester City, where he drifts inside and gets involved in the build-up play. I don't think a winger who stretche sthe defense is needed for me. Especially with Neymar on the left flank and Van Persie running the channels. Both will love to get fed by the through-balls from Iniesta and Cazorla. Also, I have Lichtsteiner down that flank to provide the width when needed.
 
Stobzilla said:
Unless Chiellini will deputise at left back and it will be Marquinhos marshalled by Hummels giving Carvajal more license to go forwards.
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But Chellini isn't one of the best in the draft in LB position (so it's pointless so label him that way if he won't be used as a CB). Even if Chiellini-Marquinos-Hummels-Carvajal certainly looks better than Marquinos-Chiellini-H-C
 
The Red Viper said:
Cheers.

I don't think its possible to build a perfect central defense in this draft. The only chance is to have one is to have a central defense pairing Thiago Silva - Terry/Vidic. Rest of the pairings all have would have some sort of weakness as the pool of top CBs in modern era ain't much. Cahill isn't great or anything but he is a reliable defender and both him and Terry have done well together. And, Jose hasn't really pushed him out. Its just that he has used Zouma in a couple of games in between otherwise he went with Cahill and Terry against PSG and then against Spurs yesterday in the final.

As for Cazorla, I have him playing in the role he did at Villareal. The role David Silva plays for Manchester City, where he drifts inside and gets involved in the build-up play. I don't think a winger who stretche sthe defense is needed for me. Especially with Neymar on the left flank and Van Persie running the channels. Both will love to get fed by the through-balls from Iniesta and Cazorla. Also, I have Lichtsteiner down that flank to provide the width when needed.
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Not sure I agree with you re Cahill-(names), but lets stop that for now.
As for Cazorla, yeah I guess he could do that inside forward role although don't forget he's right footed unlike Silva who is left footed. Plus, I'm not sure allowing Lichesteiner so much freedom going forward is such a good idea with Marcelo bombing down that other flank. You'd be an easy target for counter attacks with Terry-Cahill-Hargreaves staying behind.
 
The only way that backline should line up is Chiellini - Hummels - Marquinhos - Carvajal.

Or you could play a back five with Park as left wingback.
 
ctp said:
The only way that back line should line up is Chiellini - Hummels - Marquinhos - Carvajal.
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So basically it's take your best defender, shift him to his not best position in order to allow a young unproven CB with a huge price tag to play instead of taking a proper LB, and keep your "2 of the best CBs in the draft" together.
 
VivaJanuzaj said:
So basically it's take your best defender, shift him to his not best position in order to allow a young unproven CB with a huge price tag to play instead of taking a proper LB, and keep your "2 of the best CBs in the draft" together.
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No. You're playing your best defender in his proper position (Hummels as LCB), using Marquinhos on the right side of defence where he belongs, Carvajal as a great right back. You make all that happen by moving Chiellini to left back, where he performed well in the past, even though it's not his best position. It might have been better to pick a proper left back and play a central defence of Hummels - Chiellini, but I don't think there were any remaining who are as good as Marquinhos is at centre back.

And like I said, the other solution, where they're all used correctly, is a back five of Park - Chiellini - Hummels - Marquinhos - Carvajal
 
Bravo
Marquinhos - Hummels - Chiellini
Carvajal - Gündogan - de Jong - Park
Isco - Ronaldinho
Higuain
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This looks pretty tasty, I have to say.
 
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ctp said:
No. You're playing your best defender in his proper position (Hummels as LCB), using Marquinhos on the right side of defence where he belongs, Carvajal as a great right back. You make all that happen by moving Chiellini to left back, where he performed well in the past, even though it's not his best position. It might have been better to pick a proper left back and play a central defence of Hummels - Chiellini, but I don't think there were any remaining who are as good as Marquinhos is at centre back.

And like I said, the other solution, where they're all used correctly, is a back five of Park - Chiellini - Hummels - Marquinhos - Carvajal
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Can't seem to agree there mate, Chiellini at his prime is above Hummels imo, and his best position was always LCB. How much have you really seen of Marquinhos to assume he's no better than any other LB unpicked?
 
You have the option of picking a left back/left wing back in the next round too, if you choose to go to a 3-5-2.
 
Getting closer for me to get my usual draft moan in about a certain Everton player not be picked.
 
Seamus Coleman

I was caught between two players there and tempted to go very attacking.
 
VivaJanuzaj said:
Can't seem to agree there mate, Chiellini at his prime is above Hummels imo, and his best position was always LCB. How much have you really seen of Marquinhos to assume he's no better than any other LB unpicked?
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I haven't watched a whole lot of Marquinhos to be honest, maybe a dozen games of PSG, but he's always looked good when I did, both at centre back and right back. Chiellini is a bit better at defending than Hummels, but for me, his superior playmaking from the back more than makes up for it and he'd get priority in his best position. There's actually a left back I missed, but he's a Spaniard and thus not eligible for this team.
 
Theon said:
Seamus Coleman

I was caught between two players there and tempted to go very attacking.
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You have quite an ultra-aggressive, attacking lineup right there. It could actually work in your favour, to be fair.
 
ctp said:
I don't think there were any remaining who are as good as Marquinhos is at centre back.
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Not sure if this is true (arguable statement at least) and, secondly, it's the wrong equation. It shouldn't be LB of the same level as Marquinhos is CB, because there is also Chiellini, who is much better as LCB than he is as LB.
 
I think there has been a few centre backs who have been overlooked despite being without doubt better out and out defenders than some of
Stobzilla said:
Especially when he taught everything a man who went in the first round everything he knew.
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Exactly ;)
 
ctp said:
Bravo
Marquinhos - Hummels - Chiellini
Carvajal - Gündogan - de Jong - Park
Isco - Ronaldinho
Higuain
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This looks pretty tasty, I have to say.
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Could also just go asymmetrical. Chiellini as Abidal going forward rarely and Carvajal as Alves bombing forward constantly.
 
BigDunc9 said:
I think there has been a few centre backs who have been overlooked despite being without doubt better out and out defenders than some of
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One in particular really surprises me. Could be a good choice for someone with a weak 2nd center back who wants to have the option of switching that spot depending on which style of striker they are matched up against in the first round.

12th round in general should be interesting. Lots of possible tactical revisions even if most picks won't matter.
 
  1. Pat_Mustard: 1. Xavi 2. Villa 3. Dani Alves 4. Barzagli 5. Verratti 6. Laporte 7. Tevez 8. Kwadwo Asamoah 9. Deisler 10.Mandanda 11. Lars Bender
  2. Raees: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Hummels 3. Chiellini 4. De Jong 5. Gundogan 6. Isco 7. Carvajal 8. Park Ji Sung 9. Higuain 10. C Bravo 11. Marquinhos
  3. Physiocrat: 1. Robben 2. Fabregas 3. J. Boateng 4. Wilshere 5. Alba 6. Nani 7. Rafael 8. Berbatov 9. Vermalean 10. Igor Akinfeev 11. Gustavo
  4. MJJ: 1. Kaká 2. Torres 3. Essien 4. Matic 5. Pique 6. Neuer 7. Baines 8. Sokratis 9. Piszczek 10. Pjanic 11. Cassano
  5. Stobzilla: 1. Lahm 2. Alaba 3. Vidal 4. Rooney 5. Turan 6. Özil 7. Griezmann 8. Luiz 9. Bonucci 10. Valdes 11. Otamendi
  6. The Red Viper: 1. Iniesta 2. Terry 3. Neymar 4. Van Persie 5. Hargreaves 6. Marcelo 7. Cahill 8. Lichtsteiner 9. Ramsey 10. Sirigu 11. Cazorla
  7. Isotope: 1. Suárez 2. Eto'o 3. Mascherano 4. Pepe 5. Koke 6. Chivu 7. Marchisio 8. Sagna 9. Mata 10. Keylor Navas 11. Balzaretti
  8. Theon: 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Ibrahimovic 3. Sánchez 4. Sneijder 5. De Gea 6. Koscielny 7. Khedira 8. Robinho 9. Kolo 10. Kolarov 11. Coleman
  9. BorisDeLedFora: 1. Vidic 2. Kompany 3. De Rossi 4. Cavani 5. Rakitic 6. Hamsik 7. Arbeloa 8. Vicente 9. Walcott 10. Ter Stegen 11. Richards
  10. Snow: 1. Hazard 2. Modric 3. Busquets 4. Azpilicueta 5. Adriano 6. Thiago 7.Srna 8. Garay 9. Badstuber 10. Lloris
  11. VivaJanuzaj: 1. Thiago Silva 2. Yaya Touré 3. Ivanovic 4. Pogba 5. Gotze 6. Alex Song 7. Clichy 8. Diego Costa 9. Pedro 10. Mertesacker
  12. NoPace: 1. Kroos 2. Reus 3. Ramos 4. Di María 5. Ledley King 6. Falcao 7. Casillas 8. Filipe Luis 9. T.Rosicky 10. Motta
  13. Barney: 1. Gerrard 2. Alonso 3. Martínez 4. Benatia 5. Zabaleta 6. Ricardo Rodriguez 7.Valencia 8. Benzema 9. Demichelis 10. Hart
  14. Skizzo: 1. Müller 2. Evra 3. Godín 4. D. Silva 5. Miranda 6. Sterling 7. Lewandowski 8. Matuidi 9. Juanfran 10. Handanovic
  15. crappycraperson: 1. Ribery 2. Agüero 3. Varane 4. Carrick 5. Vertonghen 6. Cech 7. Lavezzi 8. Coentrao 9. Joaquin 10. Moutinho
  16. NM: 1. Bale 2. Cole 3. Maicon 4. Cambiasso 5. James Rodriguez 6. Courtois 7. Subotic 8. Dante 9. Strootman 10. Mario Gomez
 
NoPace said:
One in particular really surprises me. Could be a good choice for someone with a weak 2nd center back who wants to have the option of switching that spot depending on which style of striker they are matched up against in the first round.

12th round in general should be interesting. Lots of possible tactical revisions even if most picks won't matter.
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I didn't even realise I posted that as you can probably tell but I feel a few centre backs have been overlooked for fancier players which shouldn't happen at centre back.
 
Right, so;

--------------ter Stegen-------------
Richards--Kompany--Vidic--Arbeloa
-----------De Rossi--Rakitic---------
Walcott-------Hamsik-------Vicente
---------------Cavani----------------

Sit back and look to hit teams on the break, or take advantage of the opposition with high pressing at opportune moments.
 
My team has a bit of a Caf-muppet theme. Not intentional. They just happen to be good players. Here's another one that the people wanted. Him and Srna will make a good team with plenty of stamina and grit to go with their talents.
My favorite player along with James in Brazil.
Juan Cuadrado.
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  1. Pat_Mustard: 1. Xavi 2. Villa 3. Dani Alves 4. Barzagli 5. Verratti 6. Laporte 7. Tevez 8. Kwadwo Asamoah 9. Deisler 10.Mandanda 11. Lars Bender
  2. Raees: 1. Ronaldinho 2. Hummels 3. Chiellini 4. De Jong 5. Gundogan 6. Isco 7. Carvajal 8. Park Ji Sung 9. Higuain 10. C Bravo 11. Marquinhos
  3. Physiocrat: 1. Robben 2. Fabregas 3. J. Boateng 4. Wilshere 5. Alba 6. Nani 7. Rafael 8. Berbatov 9. Vermalean 10. Igor Akinfeev 11. Gustavo
  4. MJJ: 1. Kaká 2. Torres 3. Essien 4. Matic 5. Pique 6. Neuer 7. Baines 8. Sokratis 9. Piszczek 10. Pjanic 11. Cassano
  5. Stobzilla: 1. Lahm 2. Alaba 3. Vidal 4. Rooney 5. Turan 6. Özil 7. Griezmann 8. Luiz 9. Bonucci 10. Valdes 11. Otamendi
  6. The Red Viper: 1. Iniesta 2. Terry 3. Neymar 4. Van Persie 5. Hargreaves 6. Marcelo 7. Cahill 8. Lichtsteiner 9. Ramsey 10. Sirigu 11. Cazorla
  7. Isotope: 1. Suárez 2. Eto'o 3. Mascherano 4. Pepe 5. Koke 6. Chivu 7. Marchisio 8. Sagna 9. Mata 10. Keylor Navas 11. Balzaretti
  8. Theon: 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Ibrahimovic 3. Sánchez 4. Sneijder 5. De Gea 6. Koscielny 7. Khedira 8. Robinho 9. Kolo 10. Kolarov 11. Coleman
  9. BorisDeLedFora: 1. Vidic 2. Kompany 3. De Rossi 4. Cavani 5. Rakitic 6. Hamsik 7. Arbeloa 8. Vicente 9. Walcott 10. Ter Stegen 11. Richards
  10. Snow: 1. Hazard 2. Modric 3. Busquets 4. Azpilicueta 5. Adriano 6. Thiago 7.Srna 8. Garay 9. Badstuber 10. Lloris 11. Cuadrado
  11. VivaJanuzaj: 1. Thiago Silva 2. Yaya Touré 3. Ivanovic 4. Pogba 5. Gotze 6. Alex Song 7. Clichy 8. Diego Costa 9. Pedro 10. Mertesacker
  12. NoPace: 1. Kroos 2. Reus 3. Ramos 4. Di María 5. Ledley King 6. Falcao 7. Casillas 8. Filipe Luis 9. T.Rosicky 10. Motta
  13. Barney: 1. Gerrard 2. Alonso 3. Martínez 4. Benatia 5. Zabaleta 6. Ricardo Rodriguez 7.Valencia 8. Benzema 9. Demichelis 10. Hart
  14. Skizzo: 1. Müller 2. Evra 3. Godín 4. D. Silva 5. Miranda 6. Sterling 7. Lewandowski 8. Matuidi 9. Juanfran 10. Handanovic
  15. crappycraperson: 1. Ribery 2. Agüero 3. Varane 4. Carrick 5. Vertonghen 6. Cech 7. Lavezzi 8. Coentrao 9. Joaquin 10. Moutinho
  16. NM: 1. Bale 2. Cole 3. Maicon 4. Cambiasso 5. James Rodriguez 6. Courtois 7. Subotic 8. Dante 9. Strootman 10. Mario Gomez
@VivaJanuzaj
 
BorisDeLeFora said:
Right, so;

--------------ter Stegen-------------
Richards--Kompany--Vidic--Arbeloa
-----------De Rossi--Rakitic---------
Walcott-------Hamsik-------Vicente
---------------Cavani----------------

Sit back and look to hit teams on the break, or take advantage of the opposition with high pressing at opportune moments.
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Pretty much same issues as I had with Raees' team, the CB pairing isn't too complimentary. I'm also unsure of Rakitic there, doesn't seem right for a counter attacking team, feels like him and Hamsik will step on each other's toes really, and I'd prefer a more defensive CM than Rakitic in a counter attacking team, a box to box midfielder or maybe even a deeper playmaker.
 
Lloris
Srna - Badstuber - Garay - Azpilicueta
Busquets
Thiago - Modric
Cuadrado -------------------- Hazard
Adriano​
 
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