The Modern / Current Players Draft

Cheers, I get why you'd think that but I'm hoping that the aerial threat and Gotze in the free role will be the solution to this problem - if the opponent parks the bus, I have a very good long shot threat with Yaya & Pogba, and the aerial threat of them and Diego Costa from random(Moyes-like) crossing :)

Not to say you couldn't...because like you say, there's goals in that team most definitely. Just think that may be your biggest criticism in the match threads
 
Not many vote winners in my team, but it seems balanced to me:


GK
Ivanovic --- T.Silva -- CB --- Clichy
Alex Song
Yaya Toure ---- Pogba
Pedro ---------------- Gotze
Diego Costa​

Gotze on the free role on the left to run the show upfront, Pogba-Yaya-Song will pretty much dominate physically every midfield you put against them, with Yaya-Pogba bursting runs forward and Song in a BWM role but not as a "Makalele" as he'll get the freedom to go forward.
The thing I love about it is the amount of goal threat between Costa & Pedro in the box, to Gotze-Yaya-Pogba outside it to the aerial threat of Costa-Yaya-Pogba from Gotze/Clichy/Pedro/Ivanovic cross, while at the same time a midfield so physical with three very capable defensively midfielders that won't be run over by anyone. Yaya will thrive under this setup and show why he's one of the best midfielders in the world and the best in the PL for the last 2-3 years.

The team overall is pretty great. Built around Yaya Touré in his peak role and Pogba is next to him providing something similar. Penetration in the central areas and together they'll get on the score-sheet almost every single match they play.

It is a bit unusual for a draft and we've said it before, goalscoring midfielders tends to be underrated in terms of their match winning abilities. Pedro, Costa and Götze make for a front trio that can help Yaya/Pogba from the front with aggressive pressing and Song is also there together with a very strong defense.

I think it is a team that would do great in reality though even if it wouldn't be the prettiest football they can definitely wear you down and get you playing very direct football. Even corners or free-kicks are dangerous when you have Yaya/Silva/Ivanovic/Costa in the box.
 
The team overall is pretty great. Built around Yaya Touré in his peak role and Pogba is next to him providing something similar. Penetration in the central areas and together they'll get on the score-sheet almost every single match they play.

It is a bit unusual for a draft and we've said it before, goalscoring midfielders tends to be underrated in terms of their match winning abilities. Pedro, Costa and Götze make for a front trio that can help Yaya/Pogba from the front with aggressive pressing and Song is also there together with a very strong defense.

I think it is a team that would do great in reality though even if it wouldn't be the prettiest football they can definitely wear you down and get you playing very direct football. Even corners or free-kicks are dangerous when you have Yaya/Silva/Ivanovic/Costa in the box.
Cheers mate, to be honest after getting Yaya in the second round that was my aim - getting the best of the midfield and I think I've done it. Like you said, with the support of the front three I can see either Yaya/Pogba getting on the score sheet quite often wether its with a bursting run into the box, a long shot or a set piece.
More than that I'm pleased with the defensive setup, Gotze-Pedro-Costa can really press the defense and force them to play long balls, while the midfield is so strong it will stand strong against any foes.
 
@VivaJanuzaj really nice looking side you've compiled there mate, some easy upgrades for you as well if you get through which is always nice to have in an already strong looking team.
 
@VivaJanuzaj really nice looking side you've compiled there mate, some easy upgrades for you as well if you get through which is always nice to have in an already strong looking team.
Thanks mate, your team looks really good, Park-Isco-Ronaldinho is as balanced as it comes between attacking and covering, and like someone mentioned here you have the option of moving Park to the middle against certain teams like Fergie did with him to take Pirlo out of the game.
 
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Demichelis was excellent for us around 2006 for a while. It wasn't the longest peak, but then even before and after that his overall level wasn't really bad. In my opinion, he was also our best defender in van Gaal's first season, when we won the double and reached the CL final. He was prone to brainfarts though, which cost us at times. I can't think of any better defenders who are still unpicked. He has also done surprisingly well at City, even though I thought he was well past it when he left us in 2011.
 
He has also done surprisingly well at City
Has he really?
I don't think he does well at City at all, like you said he's got his fair share of brainfarts and in draft thinking, regular brainfarts equals players I want to avoid.
It's not his fault entirely, as Komapny hasn't been performing as good lately and they don't compliment each other that well, but with Kompany being counted as "world class" no matter what he does, all the criticism naturally gets shifted to Demichelis.

I just don't want a CB that will have a brainfart as a regular thing.
 
It's not his fault entirely, as Komapny hasn't been performing as good lately and they don't compliment each other that well, but with Kompany being counted as "world class" no matter what he does, all the criticism naturally gets shifted to Demichelis.
From reading the Kompany and City threads on the Caf, I'd argue that a large part of the football fans on here say that Demichelis has outperformed Kompany in the past 2 seasons. It's all a bit odd with Kompany, he's either crap or worldclass, when he's quite clearly somewhere inbetween for 3 years now.
 
Has he really?
I don't think he does well at City at all, like you said he's got his fair share of brainfarts and in draft thinking, regular brainfarts equals players I want to avoid.
It's not his fault entirely, as Komapny hasn't been performing as good lately and they don't compliment each other that well, but with Kompany being counted as "world class" no matter what he does, all the criticism naturally gets shifted to Demichelis.

I just don't want a CB that will have a brainfart as a regular thing.

Had a very good debut season for them. I view Malaga and Bayern as his peaks, anyway.
 
Has he really?
I don't think he does well at City at all, like you said he's got his fair share of brainfarts and in draft thinking, regular brainfarts equals players I want to avoid.
It's not his fault entirely, as Komapny hasn't been performing as good lately and they don't compliment each other that well, but with Kompany being counted as "world class" no matter what he does, all the criticism naturally gets shifted to Demichelis.

I just don't want a CB that will have a brainfart as a regular thing.

Yep, basically this.

In a closely matched game the opposition manager will try to find any weakness he can, and a player with a tendency for making errors is one to avoid. Its why you never see the likes of Fabien Barthez or David James feature in these drafts.
 
From reading the Kompany and City threads on the Caf, I'd argue that a large part of the football fans on here say that Demichelis has outperformed Kompany in the past 2 seasons. It's all a bit odd with Kompany, he's either crap or worldclass, when he's quite clearly somewhere inbetween for 3 years now.
Had a very good debut season for them. I view Malaga and Bayern as his peaks, anyway.
I agree his peak is Malaga & Bayern indeed, just not rating it that high. And yeah he might have outperformed Kompany in recent years, but just like Kompany, he's so inconsistent that its too hard to judge. That's why I wanted to avoid him anyway, you don't want a question mark as CB, especially without an undeniably amazing CB next to him.
 
Yep, basically this.

In a closely matched game the opposition manager will try to find any weakness he can, and a player with a tendency for making errors is one to avoid. Its why you never see the likes of Fabien Barthez or David James feature in these drafts.
Yep, tried finding GK examples but couldn't seem to find ones, Barthez is a great example though - superb shot stopper with very bad decision making sometimes and a constant feckup basically. GK and CB are positions you just don't want to risk it. If you get Nani for the wing you don't mind him being an unpredictable bastard, that's what makes him both good and bad, but in CB I want the no nonsense type.
 
Yep, tried finding GK examples but couldn't seem to find ones, Barthez is a great example though - superb shot stopper with very bad decision making sometimes and a constant feckup basically. GK and CB are positions you just don't want to risk it. If you get Nani for the wing you don't mind him being an unpredictable bastard, that's what makes him both good and bad, but in CB I want the no nonsense type.
It's not really a deep pool of consistently good centerbacks though. I'd rather have Demichelis, who can at least put in a quality performance against anybody than someone who is generally not good enough, but at least consistent with it.

Obviously Demichelis isn't anything special, but he's a 9th round pick here.
 
Thoughts on Demichelis?
He's had a patchy career but he was very good at Malaga. His reputation suffers a little here because he took some time to shake the media narrative that Kompany was infallible while he was the dodgy one.
 
Joaquin is a good pick, I had planned to get him and Vicente, then I forgot about the nationality rule and picked Arbeloa.
 
Finally. He's one of the best right-wingers in the pool.
Super pick.
Yeah, I had him and Pedro as the latest options but preferred Pedro to my tactics.

I wanted Joaquin or Pedro. Feck!
Knew you were gunning for either so had to grab one :D

Thoughts on my side?
Not yet sure what formation you're planning, but the midfield core is brilliant. Not a big fan of the defense though, but it will all depend on how that midfield will end up setting up(a diamond or a 4-2-3-1-ish)