Woodleys problem is he can't get out of his own way. He rubs a lot of people wrong with his constant victim mentality. He always seems to come around to a "everything is unfair for me" sort of position, and that's just an unattractive trait.
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Woodleys problem is he can't get out of his own way. He rubs a lot of people wrong with his constant victim mentality. He always seems to come around to a "everything is unfair for me" sort of position, and that's just an unattractive trait.
Sort of hard to avoid that when Dana seems to not like him....and we all know how grudgy he is.
agreed, what was Dana's beef with Miocic. That guy should have been billed as an American hero like Woodley should have been. Hard working family man, part time fireman but again just like Woodley and more importantly a great fighter. Dana needs to remember some of the all time greats in this sport were first and foremost great fighters, your Matt Hughes, Silva and GSP. None of them were exciting personalities and not all their fights were great to watch. The next so called hype trains in Till and Ngannou were promoted more heavily than the champions they faced and got schooled by. He needs to look after what he has and not what he wants. You don't always get what you want as proven in those fights.
I think the Woodley one is weirder than the Miocic one to be fair.
Miocic shows little to no interest in promoting himself really, he admits he doesn't like doing it and finds it tedious, he gives 1 word answers in press conferences and whilst his story is good he doesn't seem to want to promote it. That's his decision and fair enough but it's also pretty fair if the UFC would probably favour a slightly more vocal champion who would promote themselves as well. Not saying it's 100% right but I can see their logic with Stipe, not so muc Woodley who seems out there trying to make a name for himself.
I think at the end he was just so pissed of with the organisation, the fact he didn't even let Dana put his belt on after Ngannou highlights that. No doubt though, he's not a guy who is big into self promo, but in cases like that, the organisation where you are the record heavyweight champ should be promoting the hell out of you. The UFC is a massive organisation, they can recognise that fighters will need help in that regard. For whatever reason Woodley's personality doesn't bode well with a lot of people, but in the ring where it counts he's quality. Same with Miocic, these guys are proper fighters. Promote them. Highlight their strengths.
The UFC will promote the shit out of people like Brock Lesnar if/when he returns, same with Jones. These guys have been caught taking drugs. Conor did his whole crazy act at the bus. Shouldn't they be going out of their way to promote clean cut fighters like Woodley. Even with Covington, which is bordering on WWE for fakeness, he gets more press than he should
He also promoted the hell out of Northcutt, Van Zandt, CM Punk - all the while downplaying the accomplishments of Woodley and Miocic.
They did try with Stipe though. He's in the Modelo beer advert, they've done documentaries etc on him. I think it's obvious Dana wanted Francis to be the champ but I just don't think Stipe helped himself massively. It's a 2 way street the company needs to do more I'd agree but in Stipe's case so does the fighter.
Controversy sells and does so massively. Look at Tyson in the 90s. Also the 3 fighters you name, Lesnar had a huge following cos of WWE in his original run, Jones was actually doing good numbers before all the controversies around him and Conor the same. Sure they've done stuff since but they were all big names before so it'd be stupid not to promote them. Covington seemingly goes out his way to promote himself so they've latched on to it a bit as well, there's no proof whether he does any extra numbers cos of it...I'd guess he won't
controversy unfortunately does sell in all sports. Funny thing is though,after this Khabib fight, GSP is probably the biggest name either fighter would target. George is hardly known for his crazy antics and a lot of his fights haven't been great viewing. I guess he's part of the old crew where talent was key and not neccessairly your personality. George always got the numbers though
Dana is human trash, absolutely, but he acts like this towards people he can act like this towards. Woodley doesn't "move the needle" and because of that, Dana can act like a piece of shit, and treat him like a piece of shit. If Woodley suddenly started selling 1m PPV cards, Dana would fellatiate him the way he does Conor, Brock, etc. Then he would come up with some lame excuse about how he was always tight with Woodley, and that the media was #fakenewsing their problems.
I don't disagree with any of this really. Course Dana will promote people who sell fights more cos he'd make more money and he (and the UFC) should do a much better job promoting people.
The most recent Woodley fight does show though that peoples perception can change on 1 performance. Woodley was called boring cos of his last few fights, people used to say he whinged and moaned etc and now after easily beating someone who had no business in a title shot anyway people have done a complete change of opinion on him....it's not just Dana and the UFC who get OTT over a good performance of a fighter.
It's hard to take Schaub seriously these days, he is the undisputed king of hindsight, he also talks in circles till he covers most angles, which basically boils down to "If one guy does well he'll win, otherwise the other guy will".
He's does the same shit to the UFC, if Till had knocked Woodley's head to the moon, Dana would have been the second coming of Christ for five minutes. Schaubs probably talked more shit about Tyron being boring than anyone.
Dana has put all his eggs in one basket before, he tends to back the hype train up to people he considers marketable and openly roots for them. He and Woodley don't get on, it's no surprise he wanted Tesco's Own brand McGregor to win.
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fights starts early today in Russia. 2 hours more or so.
Dana weirdly since we all know he and Tyron don’t get on put a pic on Instagram of Woodley’s album and congratulating him and stuff. Must be “best for buisness”
His bosses at WME probably told him to behave professionally or else. I'm surprised they haven't fired his ass yet.
Just arrived from my Saturday football match, missed the first fight but watching now.
ps. got kicked in the nose so I'm feeling the pain of the fighters today. haha
Jan Błachowicz just submitted Nikito Krylov pretty easily. Not the comeback to the UFC Krylov was expecting.
Hunt choked out in the first.
And Mark Hunt just got submitted by the beast Olynyk. (Hunt seems at this point is just fighting for the cheque)
Not he best UFC event in general, but interesting first event in Russia.
Even the Chechen dictator (Kadyrov with some minions) was watching in first line.
Too bad for Kajan Johnson who got robbed by the local judges. (Rustam Khabilov won by dec)
Not he best UFC event in general, but interesting first event in Russia.
Even the Chechen dictator (Kadyrov with some minions) was watching in first line.
Too bad for Kajan Johnson who got robbed by the local judges. (Rustam Khabilov won by dec)
feck sake Krylov... Thought he could be a legit contender at LHW but I guess not...
I used to think the same of Cirkunov, but after 4 straight finishes in he UFC, he got KO'd twice. (he fights on october 27 vs Patrick Cummins, so he should be back at the winners column hopefully)
Anyway, Krylov is only 26 years old, so he is not at his best just yet. Maybe in a couple of years he become a contender.
Herb Dean needs suspending for nearly killing CB Dollaway.
Skip across to the video. Way to put a dude on the spot 
Christ, she's a f*cking prick.
"No one cares what I have to say, I'm a journalist, you are supposed to be professional MMA fighter and as such, fans may actually care what you have to say. I had no idea asking you for a prediction for the biggest fight of the year would be such a problem. By the way, Rose kicked the shit out of you twice, can you handle it, big nose?"
"No one cares what I have to say, I'm a journalist, you are supposed to be professional MMA fighter and as such, fans may actually care what you have to say. I had no idea asking you for a prediction for the biggest fight of the year would be such a problem. By the way, Rose kicked the shit out of you twice, can you handle it, big nose?"
She's cute. You're just blind to it. There's a thin line between love and hate.
There's nothing cute about her. She looks like a horse.
Booogey women is comiiiinnnnnnggggggg.
Get smacked.
Get smacked.
Yeah there’s nothing to like about her imo.
Kid Yamamoto has died. Only 41 years old 
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LOL. DC seems a bit nervous
Hilarious watching him feign boredom with Jones. Its so eating him up inside
Hilarious watching him feign boredom with Jones. Its so eating him up inside
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Has Jones really got two and a half years wiped off his ban for snitching on someone else?
https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/9/...th-suspension-after-arbitration-in-usada-case
https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/9/...th-suspension-after-arbitration-in-usada-case
What a cnut if that's true. Snitches get stitches.
Very Trumpian of you George.
That's usually how it works in legal world. People routinely get lesser punishment for cooperating with the authorities.
I know. I first imagined a situation where he snitched on his close training partner, but if he gonna snitch on the facilitators for the use of PEDs, then there is no problem haha.
Gus vs. Jones UFC 230?
Jones is among the biggest scumbags in sports. He’d have probably snitched on his brothers to get clear.
Hopefully Gus takes him out.
Hopefully Gus takes him out.
By snitching do they simply mean that his case has led to the discovery of contaminated products. You can’t say he was unaware he was cheating and then say he pointed the finger at the culprits. Think people are getting the wrong end of the stick with what that actually means.