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Wow. Should have been stopped the moment he hit the deck.
When he was walking out the cage, he was absolutely out of it. Got carried all the way by his team and doctor. Very bad KO.
He trains in Sweden with guys like Gustaffson and Latifi. So it's not like he is with chumps. All the focus on America being the place to train is a bit false when you look at the champions in the UFC. There's a champion from a Polish gym and Irish gym. Plenty of Brazilians are in the top 5 of most weight classes as well.
In terms of ability he is not the most spectacular at all, he is like the Gary Neville of MMA, worked hard at everything that could be improved other than the natural talent and now has the most UFC wins ever. So will definitely be in the hall of fame.
Maybe he's that third judge?
Weird that the last thing Hendo does in the cage is a wheel kick
You need to watch the fight again.
He's hardly run from anyone his whole career. He's been in with Rockhold twice already.
You do know how the UFC is scored right?
Not sure how anyone can make a case for Henderson when he landed two big shots but nothing more in 25 minutes. If you're going to take a championship belt you have to go and win it.
I hope he fights someone of a higher caliber than Henderson - someone worthy of fighting for the belt, which sort of only leaves about 5 people.
Good decision, Bisping clearly won that one. He was the one moving forward the whole fight while Hendo was just relying on his power, which almost worked again. Hats off to him though, fighting 5 rounds at 46 years of age...
I'd like to see Gergard get the opportunity to fight some top five guys and/or for a belt....he's a solid fighter.
Gegard would beat Bisping imo. He's in the best shape of his career and looked pretty impressive last night.
For anyone that's missed it. Great spot that, although I'm surprised how much they focus on Eddie. And why is Tyron wearing shades at night?
I'm still astonished Bisping managed to avoid getting KO'd. Tough bastard.
So that early morning report of Conor getting ktfo with possible broken nose in a sparring match was bollocks? Not his biggest fan but that $150k fine is excessive.
So Bisping is basically the Gary Neville of MMA.
That would explain rednev's exultation.
If MMA fighters were footballers... good topic in the making. I'd see Cro Cop as Rivaldo and Anderson Silva as Ronaldinho.
Great analysis from Luke Thomas about the fight. Well worth a watch for people who were unsure about the fight.
Bisbing on Chris Weidman...
"There's that whiner, that crybaby, if Chris Weidman wants to do it then I'm more than happy. If he thinks I'm ducking him then that's crazy because I've never ducked anyone in my life. I'm certainly not going to start with that fecking douchebag"
He just doesn't stop complaining," Bisping said. "He feels like everyone owes him something and preaches on about his father and this and that. He should shut the feck up--he's not part of God's plan. If there is a god he's got bigger fish to fry than Chris Weidman and his fecking life."
"There's that whiner, that crybaby, if Chris Weidman wants to do it then I'm more than happy. If he thinks I'm ducking him then that's crazy because I've never ducked anyone in my life. I'm certainly not going to start with that fecking douchebag"
He just doesn't stop complaining," Bisping said. "He feels like everyone owes him something and preaches on about his father and this and that. He should shut the feck up--he's not part of God's plan. If there is a god he's got bigger fish to fry than Chris Weidman and his fecking life."
He's got a point.
My perspective is that Bisping kept making the same mistake round after round, circling left into those h bombs. He was lucky to remain conscious and certainly took a beating. Also lucky that the 46 year old he was fighting got gassed out whilst splitting his face open. The one time he actually threatened Henderson was the result of a low blow that wasn't called yet acknowledged by the referee after the second one.
I'm aware of the preference given to champions but that was far from a championship performance. That said, I'd find the decision more acceptable if it were split rather than unanimous.
Its hard to make the claim he isn't ducking anyone after just having taken a fight with Henderson.
I don't think that was ducking, he wanted to avenge a brutal loss and the UFC wanted to give Henderson a "lifetime achievement" title shot in his final fight.
You just have to look at Bisbing's career to see he's not been one to duck fights. If his next fight is not against one of the big boys of the division, maybe.
Weidman defended against Belfort after he beat Henderson as well though.
I think the UFC nd probably most involved expected Bisping to defend his title much easier than he did against Henderson and have a pretty quick turn around on fights to be honest. They kind of wrote off the 204 card a bit hence it being in England for starters, it was probably a hard sell in America right before 205.
I think the UFC nd probably most involved expected Bisping to defend his title much easier than he did against Henderson and have a pretty quick turn around on fights to be honest. They kind of wrote off the 204 card a bit hence it being in England for starters, it was probably a hard sell in America right before 205.
Ducking here = staying middleweight champ for as long as possible to make more money. If he fought anyone else, he would've almost certainly lost, gotten relegated back to being a mid table minnow, and thereby deprived himself of a lot more money in future fights. He could've fought Rockhold, Weidman, or Jacare. Even Moussasi would've been a better matchup than Henderson.
For anyone that's missed it. Great spot that, although I'm surprised how much they focus on Eddie. And why is Tyron wearing shades at night?
That was a great ad. More like that please...
200 was great too. Just a shame that Ariel had to kill the reveal.
But it was the ufc that offered him hendo... He didn't go out looking for it. Weidman is coming off a loss, bisping beat rockhold, Romero was banned. The only fight that made sense was jacare, but the brass just don't want to give him title shot.
I like mousasi but he's ranked 9th so that would have caused similar issue to Dan being 13th... Difference being the narrative between Dan and bisping.
Weidman and Rockhold are head and shoulders the top two fighters in the division. Bisping as a mid table fighter should've given Rockhold an immediate rematch. Short of that, a Weidman fight would've been apporpriate.
That's a shame, the guy is a proper grappler and he is so technique that it's actually great to watch.
Genuinely curious as to why Rockhold should of got as immediate rematch? He never successfully defended the title, the 1 defence he had he got knocked out by someone with 2 weeks notice. Hardly immediate rematch stuff. Not to say the Henderson fight should of happened but there's no way it should of been Rockhold, he was hardly some dominant champion.
Rousey back for the December card, potentially 3 huge PPVs in a row there with New York (and Conor), rumour is GSP in Canada still and then Rousey on New Years Eve Eve.
I don't agree. Romero, Jacare and even Moussasi can challenge Rockhold and Weidman. Bisping is a mid-table fighter, yet he smashed Rockhold with two weeks notice... so what does that say about Rockhold? No way he deserves immediate rematch. And Weidman... how many fighters get a title shot coming off a loss (unless it's a rematch)?
agreed
the division has been all over the shop since Anderson lost the belt.
The only one that might to feel hard done by is Jacare, although he lost to Romero in december.
We can agree to disagree, but I'm sure we will know more on Romero and Jacare challenging Weidman and Bisping in the coming months. I still see Bisping as a mid table fighter who has gotten lucky with one flailing punch landing an a rather cavalier Rockhold who clearly wasn't taking the fight seriously. Its one of those fights Rockhold wins 9 out of 10 times. But then again Bisping has demonstrated a lot of heart and stamina in narrowly escaping defeat against a 40 year old and a few days ago against a 46 year old. I'm confident that any of Rockhold, Weidman, Jacare, Romero, and Mousasi could beat him in the current climate.
Rockhold not taking a fight seriously though is his problem not Bisping's. Can only beat what he faced and he did that, Rockhold was stupid enough to not take a fight seriously and therefore I don't see why that warrants an immediate rematch. It's not luck either he landed that punch given he was going for it the whole fight and even talked about it before hand, it's a gameplan he stuck to and won with it.
Yeah. It's absurd to argue Rockhold deserves a rematch since he didn't take the first defence of his title seriously enough.
I honestly hate meaningless rematches. That would have been worse than Conor / Diaz 2
Ronda's back. Officially.
Ronda by armbar?
unless she wants to showcase her boxing...
unless she wants to showcase her boxing...
Couldn't they tilt her head for a few more degrees to hide that mole
Ronda by armbar.
Ronda by armbar.
I know Ronda was the dominant champion for a long time but it's unfair on the others that she can just take a long lay off like that and return to get a title shot. I think Pena deserved the shot and Ronda should've returned to face Holm.
I'm not a big fan of Rousey so I'll be rooting for Nunes but if Ronda winning means she'll face Cyborg I wouldn't mind seeing that tbh.
I'm not a big fan of Rousey so I'll be rooting for Nunes but if Ronda winning means she'll face Cyborg I wouldn't mind seeing that tbh.
Probably safer to have her go against the champ first? If she loses then the Holm fight is still on, whereas if she lost to Holm....
Nunes should comfortably outstrike her but she's also a black belt in BJJ and brown belt in Judo, she shouldn't be getting thrown and submitted inside a minute like most of them.
Terrible match up for Ronda.
Yeah you're probably right but I don't think it's fair in the first place for Rousey to take a year out and return to an instant title shot.
I suppose if Ronda wins she will have the option to fight Cyborg. If she loses then like you said the Holm fight is there to fall back on but if I was Rousey I would've been asking Dana White for the rematch straight away. The first fight was a one sided beat down.