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It's far more tiring to be on your back in that scenario.
Mendes was in his guard though. He wasn't really on top of him properly. He never tried to pass his guard once until the failed darc'e attempt.
It's far more tiring to be on your back in that scenario.
I think it's fair to say he would need a dedicated camp and a long run-in to prepare for a 5 round fight. These guys are elite athletes who train to peak at specific times and short notice will have prevented this. However, his baseline fitness should have been plenty good enough to get him through two rounds, especially when he spent most of them lying on top of McGregor. The fact that he seemed so unsteady on his feet at the end of that second round had to be down to damage done in the exchanges rather than a lack of cardio conditioning.
That's massively impressive if true, massively.Holy shit, John Kavanagh said on the MMA Hour that they didn't do one live round of wrestling for the whole fight camp because of McGregor's knee. He said it was fine when it was time to fight but they didn't want to risk it in camp at all.
Holy shit, John Kavanagh said on the MMA Hour that they didn't do one live round of wrestling for the whole fight camp because of McGregor's knee. He said it was fine when it was time to fight but they didn't want to risk it in camp at all.
He wonhttp://www.mmafighting.com/2015/7/1...n-kavanagh-michael-bisping-ben-rothwell-firas
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He didn't sound sincere. It sounds like an excuse.
I'd respect him a lot more if he just came out and said that two weeks was not enough for them to prepare for a wrestler of Chad's quality but they couldn't let the Irish fans down and cancel.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/7/1...n-kavanagh-michael-bisping-ben-rothwell-firas
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He didn't sound sincere. It sounds like an excuse.
I'd respect him a lot more if he just came out and said that two weeks was not enough for them to prepare for a wrestler of Chad's quality but they couldn't let the Irish fans down and cancel.
It was reported a while ago he injured his knee, he was even asked about it at a scrum before the event. So it makes perfect sense.
Does it mean with more time on the mat wrestling this camp he could have did better stopping Mendes taking him down? Not necessarily, since Mendes is elite at that but it still shows the nature of McGregor that he'd get in and fight despite it all.
The point I'm making is, there was nothing wrong with being out wrestled by Chad.He won
McGregor didn't make the excuse because it's likely BS or it's an injury that his camp are trying to play up because of his lack of wrestling being exposed.See no reason not to believe it's legit. McGregor isn't one to make excuses, he didn't try to make any excuses or even want to discuss the injury after the fight. Expect what Kavanagh said was true. I don't think it matters either way though.
Conor.The point I'm making is, there was nothing wrong with being out wrestled by Chad.
I'd rather his coach had just come out and said Mendes is a top wrestler and McGregor needs to improve his wrestling. There was no excuse for Connor to not even attempt to get up and salvage something from the round or work of his back. He even asked Herb Dean to stand it up despite doing very little to nullify Chad's game from on top.
McGregor didn't make the excuse because it's likely BS or it's an injury that his camp are trying to play up because of his lack of wrestling being exposed.
And yes, I'm a Connor fan.
Oh shit, so it isConor.
Haha. Irish spelling vs Amercican spelling I've just learnt. but your username would suggest you already know thatThat's ok, ManyB. Easy mistake to make.
Fedor is coming back. Not sure I love it but will watch obviously. I'd guess at Bellator being the destination.
I'll pass.Fedor is coming back. Not sure I love it but will watch obviously. I'd guess at Bellator being the destination.
Any pound-for-pound ranking that has Rhonda Rousey on it can't be taken seriously.Conor breaks into the latest MMA pound for pound list:
1. Jose Aldo
2. Chris Weidman
3. Demetrious Johnson
4. Ronda Rousey
5. Fabricio Werdum
6. TJ Dillashaw
7. Rafael dos Anjos
8. Robbie Lawler
9. Cain Velasquez
10. Daniel Cormier
11. Anderson Silva
12. Renan Barao
13. Anthony Pettis
14. Conor McGregor
15. Frankie Edgar
Any pound-for-pound ranking that has Rhonda Rousey on it can't be taken seriously.
Isn't that exactly what this list is doing?Sure it can. She's obviously not going to be compared to the men, but that doesn't she can't be included.
Sure it can. She's obviously not going to be compared to the men, but that doesn't she can't be included.
Isn't that exactly what this list is doing?
Isn't that exactly what this list is doing?
weight classes. Part of that involves disregarding factors outside of their control (height, gender).
I've got no doubt that she could beat me up. She still shouldn't be on that list. Did some research and she's not on the pound-for-pound rankings for Sherdog, Tapology, ESPN, or MMAJunkie. I'm assuming UFC put her on theirs strictly for marketing purposes. Tbh, I find rankings to be a bit pointless and an entirely American concept (especially pre-season rankings which always seems silly).Spot on. I've noticed her critics are generally dudes who are probably insecure that she can beat them up in 30 seconds or less.
How do you suggest people do this? She's allegedly a woman. Now I have to imagine how she'd fight as a man??The whole point of the p4p rankings is to rank fighters across weight classes. Part of that involves disregarding factors outside of their control (height, gender).
I've got no doubt that she could beat me up. She still shouldn't be on that list. Did some research and she's not on the pound-for-pound rankings for Sherdog, Tapology, ESPN, or MMAJunkie. I'm assuming UFC put her on theirs strictly for marketing purposes. Tbh, I find rankings to be a bit pointless and an entirely American concept (especially pre-season rankings which always seems silly).
How do you suggest people do this? She's allegedly a woman. Now I have to imagine how she'd fight as a man??
She's easily the most dominant fighter in the women's field, and as MannyB correctly pointed out, the rankings aren't about whether #4 can beat #7 up, they are independent of gender or other factors like weight class.
The whole point of the p4p rankings is to rank fighters across weight classes.
Part of that involves disregarding factors outside of their control (height, gender).
No you really don't...I've got no doubt that she could beat me up. She still shouldn't be on that list. Did some research and she's not on the pound-for-pound rankings for Sherdog, Tapology, ESPN, or MMAJunkie. I'm assuming UFC put her on theirs strictly for marketing purposes. Tbh, I find rankings to be a bit pointless and an entirely American concept (especially pre-season rankings which always seems silly).
How do you suggest people do this? She's allegedly a woman. Now I have to imagine how she'd fight as a man??
Correct.
No it doesn't. @ height.
If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. If Serena Williams had a penis, would she be the greatest athlete ever? These are questions that can't be answered. So according to your logic, why isn't Rhonda Rousey #1 on the pound-for-pound list? She's been inarguably more dominant in her fights than anyone else on that list. My whole point is that the UFC included her on that list for their own marketing reasons.No you really don't...
Do you have the same difficulty disregarding height and weight?
If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. If Serena Williams had a penis, would she be the greatest athlete ever? These are questions that can't be answered. So according to your logic, why isn't Rhonda Rousey #1 on the pound-for-pound list? She's been inarguably more dominant in her fights than anyone else on that list. My whole point is that the UFC included her on that list for their own marketing reasons.
I don't think there's any real point to P4P lists other than something for people to argue over on the internet. That being said, Ronda's competition hasn't been anywhere near the same level as basically everyone else on that list.