Television The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

iammemphis said:
....I just cannot believe they spent £60million per episode and this is what they came up with.....
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:eek: :wenger:

This is mind boggling. Each episode has lots of filler too so crazy numbers. Certainly the case of "less being more" would be tremendously helping the show. I could easily do without half of the fancy tech demo CGI stuff but a couple of dollars more into the writers department.

Overall I enjoyed it a bit more after the last three episodes. Can't take it serious though so in some main departments it really feels pedestrian but for some brainless entertainment I can enjoy it for the time being. Still don't think I would remember about switching S2 on in a year or so if it wouldn't be advertised everywhere.
 
Spoony said:
Apparently Sauron did actually repent and wanted to atone for his sins. It's freaky watching the baddest bad guy in fantasyland showing shades of grey. But that's knowing who Halbrand became..otherwise you'd be seeing the rise and fall of the bad bloke had you not seen LOTR and it's black and white bollocks.
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This is actually what I felt. In Numenor, he actually urges Galadriel that he wants to stay there, and when you find him on the boat, he's given up all hope of life it seems.
Think he was genuinely done and out until Galadriel did the "assume your rightful place as king of these lands" speech.
 
Slevs said:
This is actually what I felt. In Numenor, he actually urges Galadriel that he wants to stay there, and when you find him on the boat, he's given up all hope of life it seems.
Think he was genuinely done and out until Galadriel did the "assume your rightful place as king of these lands" speech.
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Probably. Apparently we'll see his back story in season 2. He's bad but it's not black and white. Interestingly the Hobbits can be ruthless travellers whereas the orcs have funerals for their dead, and the good Gladariel won't forgive Halbrand and wants to wipe out the Orc race. And still there's no hobbit sex.
 
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Anyone else feel the Galadriel in the final scene isn't actually the real Galadriel?

She's just lost Sauron in the dream/water sequence and goes up the stairs and then its Elrond finding out about the lost lineage and Halbrand being a liar. In that scene, Galadriel actually looks to be evil smiling while looking at the rings.

Maybe its just to show that she can be weak in front of absolute power (remember the scene when she turns into the dark queen for a few seconds in the movies), but I felt that wasn't the real Galadriel.
 
Slevs said:
Anyone else feel the Galadriel in the final scene isn't actually the real Galadriel?

She's just lost Sauron in the dream/water sequence and goes up the stairs and then its Elrond finding out about the lost lineage and Halbrand being a liar. In that scene, Galadriel actually looks to be evil smiling while looking at the rings.

Maybe its just to show that she can be weak in front of absolute power (remember the scene when she turns into the dark queen for a few seconds in the movies), but I felt that wasn't the real Galadriel.
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Interesting theory but given that we see Sauron in Mordor at the end who else could it be?
 
Slevs said:
Anyone else feel the Galadriel in the final scene isn't actually the real Galadriel?

She's just lost Sauron in the dream/water sequence and goes up the stairs and then its Elrond finding out about the lost lineage and Halbrand being a liar. In that scene, Galadriel actually looks to be evil smiling while looking at the rings.

Maybe its just to show that she can be weak in front of absolute power (remember the scene when she turns into the dark queen for a few seconds in the movies), but I felt that wasn't the real Galadriel.
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You hit it on the head there. It was definitely the real Galadrial - the scene was just reminding us she can be weak too (as we saw in the films).
 
Not sure why so many people are confused at what the money was spent on. The sets and locations are incredible. It's by far the best looking show ever made. It's not all filmed in one place like some many other fantasy shows. You can see why it's cost them so much to make.

Fair enough if the writing hasn't been that great for you. I wish it had been better in that regard myself but the show definitely has a real quality about it to look at.

And its also been a lot of fun. Really enjoyed it.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
Not sure why so many people are confused at what the money was spent on. The sets and locations are incredible. It's by far the best looking show ever made. It's not all filmed in one place like some many other fantasy shows. You can see why it's cost them so much to make.

Fair enough if the writing hasn't been that great for you. I wish it had been better in that regard myself but the show definitely has a real quality about it to look at.

And its also been a lot of fun. Really enjoyed it.
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In some ways yes, some beautifully framed scenes and expansive shots, best thing about the show. However, stuff like the armour and feck, even the rings, looked cheap as chips.
 
Bobski said:
In some ways yes, some beautifully framed scenes and expansive shots, best thing about the show. However, stuff like the armour and feck, even the rings, looked cheap as chips.
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Initially, I thought the same as well but it turned out Prime video defaulted to a weird screen settings. They looked decent (not great) in the Filmmaker mode (the mode which is supposed to be closest to what the creators intended for viewing for most shows and movies)
 
lsd said:
Quite a read but sums the series up will I feel

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...rogant-betrayal-of-the-lord-of-the-rings/amp/
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The second part where he the writer mimicked the plot is a bit garbage, we get it but the critiques are pretty spot on. Weird decisions all round.

The sad part of reading the idea about showing the kingdoms that would be affected by the rings (kind of the entire point of everything) is it’s obviously what they should have done. Think of how great it would have been to see the some new areas and characters (they don’t have to do them all but why not other dwarven kingdoms and at least another 1 or 2 human ones) and, essentially build up the tragedy which we would feel seeing their demise over 5 seasons which is what Tolkien’s writing is all about. The vanity/ambitions of Celebrimbor would have been so interesting as well - having that part play over several seasons with numerous potential Annatar figures would have been fun.
 
Salt Bailly said:
Interesting theory but given that we see Sauron in Mordor at the end who else could it be?
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We could be seeing Sauron with Celebrimbor and Elrond and Sauron at another time in front of mount doom in the same scene, in the sense that "Sauron ticked the elves and went to mount doom in secret". I agree with the below though.
Coxy said:
You hit it on the head there. It was definitely the real Galadrial - the scene was just reminding us she can be weak too (as we saw in the films).
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This looks like the best bet. She was weak.
 
Bobski said:
In some ways yes, some beautifully framed scenes and expansive shots, best thing about the show. However, stuff like the armour and feck, even the rings, looked cheap as chips.
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the costumes and settings looked very generic and “plasticky“ as well. It didn’t feel like Tolkien‘s universe because of it. That polished look where every hair has been styled to the max (and looking like that!) doesn’t fit a LotR setting at all imo, there should have been much more realistic grit and simplicity. Look at Numenor for example, they have completely overdone that kingdom in terms of visual polished detailness. Even with elven architecture in the original films it has ever looked as „perfect“. The writing is obviously awful but the visual aspect of the show is the second worst. At times, I thought it’s kind of a juxtaposition of wallpapers.
 
Slevs said:
She's grown on me. I actually love that family.
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Dwarfs were the best thing about the whole show by far. (Although they messed up on the one crucial thing there too: there was zero chemistry between Durin's Son and Elrond so that supposedly super strong bond between two very different characters always seemed extremely fake.) I do like the introduction though with Durin's son being super pissed at the elf because he missed a couple of family events.
 
Some of the criticism this show gets is absolutely hilarious :lol:

Really enjoyed it for what it was, which was silly fantasy done amazingly well. Miffed we have to wait a super long time for the next season.
 
Yeah stuff about volcanos, armour and what not really makes me chuckle. The next series is filmed in the UK. I think it'll be better for it. Elves running around Saddleworth Moor would be great.
 
weetee said:
Dwarfs were the best thing about the whole show by far. (Although they messed up on the one crucial thing there too: there was zero chemistry between Durin's Son and Elrond so that supposedly super strong bond between two very different characters always seemed extremely fake.) I do like the introduction though with Durin's son being super pissed at the elf because he missed a couple of family events.
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I thought they had excellent chemistry.
 
Spoony said:
Yeah stuff about volcanos, armour and what not really makes me chuckle. The next series is filmed in the UK. I think it'll be better for it. Elves running around Saddleworth Moor would be great.
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Well, no covid restrictions will help with the scale in scenes at least.
 
RedSky said:
Well, no covid restrictions will help with the scale in scenes at least.
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I think Tolkien would've been happy with it being set in the UK. Apparently it was one of the conditions Amazon had to agree with. Anyway I am watching it again. It's very good.
 
Spoony said:
I think Tolkien would've been happy with it being set in the UK. Apparently it was one of the conditions Amazon had to agree with. Anyway I am watching it again. It's very good.
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Most of it is green-screened these days but can't beat the NZ backdrop though.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
Some of the criticism this show gets is absolutely hilarious :lol:

Really enjoyed it for what it was, which was silly fantasy done amazingly well. Miffed we have to wait a super long time for the next season.
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yeah you say that but my nan is actually a uruk and she says some of the hobbit washing on display was appalling.
 
Solius said:
Most of it is green-screened these days but can't beat the NZ backdrop though.
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I agree and NZ is bloody gorgeous. But I just think it's the way it's meant to be - LOTR being set in the British Isles. I loved watching (Andor) tie fighters fly over the Scottish countryside which looked like the Peak District to me. I suspect this{ROP) will looking even better.
 
RedSky said:
I thought they had excellent chemistry.
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Only when compared to Galadriel / Halbrand imho, which was even worse. I for one wouldn't be able to tell why the Dwarf and the Elf were such exceptional friends except for us being told so. In general I think the show is a lot style over substance and that goes for most characterisations and interactions - mostly cardboardish characters. I liked Adar though yet he also was completely wasted ultimately and made look like a tool. Like many of those legendary icons I have to say.
 
RedSky said:
Well, no covid restrictions will help with the scale in scenes at least.
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no matter what they spend, none of it will have the charm or realism of legodlass sliding down that elephant thing’s trunk in the trilogy.
 
weetee said:
Only when compared to Galadriel / Halbrand imho, which was even worse. I for one wouldn't be able to tell why the Dwarf and the Elf were such exceptional friends except for us being told so. In general I think the show is a lot style over substance and that goes for most characterisations and interactions - mostly cardboardish characters. I liked Adar though yet he also was completely wasted ultimately and made look like a tool. Like many of those legendary icons I have to say.
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That's down to writing and not chemistry though.
 
RedSky said:
That's down to writing and not chemistry though.
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I don't think that their chemistry was able to compensate for writing. Sometimes you get those pairs that just look so natural together that you don't even need any explanation — for Durin & Elrond for me it always looked extremely shallow. The dwarfs in general were very good though.
 
Is it done? Can I finally watch it? On a scale of 1-10, how good or bad is it?
 
RedSky said:
That's down to writing and not chemistry though.
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Yea, true. Halbrand and Galadriel though, those actors I thought did very little to appear connected. The writing, directing and camera work didn't help 'em though.

Same also goes for that one badass elf and the southlander woman (mother of Theo? I confuse some names..) which also appear a very forced couple (or that Numenor politician with Ilsildur's sister) ... like a 13yo wrote the script yet never had any real relations so far in his own life. But this is not just a problem of the show but a general one imho. End of rant.
 
weetee said:
Dwarfs were the best thing about the whole show by far. (Although they messed up on the one crucial thing there too: there was zero chemistry between Durin's Son and Elrond so that supposedly super strong bond between two very different characters always seemed extremely fake.) I do like the introduction though with Durin's son being super pissed at the elf because he missed a couple of family events.
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I don’t think they were going for a love triangle between them and Disa until next season. Those trysts need to happen organically so that an eventual threesome feels logical.
SoCross said:
Is it done? Can I finally watch it? On a scale of 1-10, how good or bad is it?
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Yes…maybe?…5.8125/10, beautiful disaster
 
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