Gaming The Legend of Zelda | Earthquake: "It's actually ridiculously good, and keeps getting better." ★★★★★

Vidyoyo said:
I agree with you that's it's not a flawless masterpiece but may I consider a different viewpoint.

The beauty of the game is in its minimalism; it doesn't inundate the player with variety or endless content. It streamlines the whole affair insisting on exploring its world for the pleasure of exploration. It's a bit like wandering into an unknown forest without a map and having to use your initiative to find your way while marvelling at mostly ordinary things. Obviously there's a lot of action too - and that's the easiest part to criticise - but I think the game's philosophy is quite a bit different to most other open-world RPGs.

For that reason, I'd say it has more in common with a game like Journey than it does Skyrim or the Witcher 3. I guess another, maybe better, example would be to call it the type of game people thought No Man's Sky was going to be (although obviously not in space).

Anyway I'd give it 8/10. I got a bit bored after the first two dungeons. The beginning parts are much better than the latter moments.
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Maybe more like Shadow of the Colossus, except much, much better.
 
caid said:
I'm still playing Wii U :(

I could come up with minor quibbles for Zelda to drag it down but I enjoyed it too much and it gave me too many warm, fuzzy feelings.
It felt like a game i played in the early 90's and made me love games again (a bit).
The Switch has a decent library and a few no brainer releases from previous consoles left in it to make it a tempting buy.
If i hadn't bought the Wii U and had access to a pile of their previous games I'd be far more tempted.

Have they released Bayonetta 2 on it yet? I got that for Christmas, played a tiny bit and its pretty great.
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Bayonetta 2 is out in Feb.
 
Redlambs said:
Levelling?
Alchemy?
World physics?
Combat? (Or indeed, lack of)
Monster A.I?

Let's not forget that the Witcher 3 also ran like shit on release and still to this day only runs well on a monster PC or a pro/x boosting it.
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Zelda:

Empty open world
Lack of enemy variation
Repetitive as f*ck
Weapon degradation
Boring as f*ck climbing THAT WAS SO INNOVATIVE, except it wasn't at all
No story
Garbage side quests
Garbage NPCs
Ubisoft towers
Let's not forget that it runs like shit on Wii U and ran like shit on Switch upon release.


:)

Yeah, I've become that guy because of you, Lambs. :mad:
 
Redlambs said:
Levelling?
Alchemy?
World physics?
Combat? (Or indeed, lack of)
Monster A.I?

Let's not forget that the Witcher 3 also ran like shit on release and still to this day only runs well on a monster PC or a pro/x boosting it.
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Leveling was fine for me, I had enough fun leveling and running around in the world and learned about the map as I went through it.
Alchemy was fine for me, but I'm sure there are ways to "break the game" through alchemy, just as you can break other games through specific builds.
World physics were fine for me, really don't get your issues here, maybe you had a faulty console or pc?
Combat was fine for me, I had just come off dark souls and didn't mind the change of pace. I can play Fire Emblem and have fun and move to Zelda and have fun and move towards the next from softwares game and have fun with that. Rarely will there be a combat system that truly feels a hundred percent fun for me, and when it does it's usually due to a gimmick i genuinely enjoy - like leveling additions on the legend of dragoon. Others will find it dogshit, I'll find it fun.

Monster A.I was A.I like in any other game, in other words fine for me.
Item balancing was a big issue as supposed "epic finds" were throwaway items not worth keeping.
For me there was the added literal headache from witcher senses, but i won't hold that against the game.
Played it on the first-gen ps4 and had no run-issues. I recently got Tomb Raider as a gift from a friend on the pc, and it keeps crashing constantly due to terrible programming. It's a beautiful game with interesting game-play, but those issues wouldn't annoy me if i got it on the ps4, I'm sure, so while I wouldn't recommend to people to play the pc-port, i'd happily say the game itself comes across as fun and enjoyable.

BotW:
Recipes - Link can't keep a cook-book.
World physics - Horses are scared of going down a slightly downward angle and you have to force them to do a weird as feck dance to get down.
Monster A.I is simplistic as feck in BotW just as it is in most other open world games, not holding it against it, but it's not pushing stuff here either, and I wouldn't expect it to.
And this is from just a few hours of playing the game.

Obviously I think BotW is a fun game so far, but it's not the masterpiece a lot of people claim it to be - for me. If it is for them, that's great! My best friend has put in 500 or so hours into BotW and is loving it, finished it fully on both the wii u and the switch. I won't tell her that the game is shit as it's obviously one of her favorite games of all time, but we can agree that there is a difference in how enjoyable it is for us as individuals and it has it's massive upsides and it's downfalls like any other great game.

I don't believe I'll see a perfect game anytime soon, but most are enjoyable as they are.
 
Ødegaard said:
I didn't play shadow of the colossus back then, maybe I'll pick it up when it comes for the ps4. Heard great things. :)
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Both Zelda and SotC will suffer from expectations after a certain point. Playing them when they were released helps imo
 
The Bloody-Nine said:
Zelda:

Empty open world
Lack of enemy variation
Repetitive as f*ck
Weapon degradation
Boring as f*ck climbing THAT WAS SO INNOVATIVE, except it wasn't at all
No story
Garbage side quests
Garbage NPCs
Ubisoft towers
Let's not forget that it runs like shit on Wii U and ran like shit on Switch upon release.


:)

Yeah, I've become that guy because of you, Lambs. :mad:
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:lol: yeah you have!

Sucker.


Olly said:
Chandler - Lambo
Monica - TBN

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:lol:
 
caid said:
Both Zelda and SotC will suffer from expectations after a certain point. Playing them when they were released helps imo
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Probably right.
The thing is for me though, that I was never a big fan of the Zelda franchise. I loved the original on the NES as it was my first console-game. I really liked A Link to the Past also on the snes, but while i owned a snes i never got the game as a kid, so never immersed myself with it. Then there was Links Awakening on the gameboy advance(?) that i really liked. Apart from those I of course tried Ocarina of time and got close to the end and I tried Majoras mask, but I've always been more of a jrpg guy, so while I can enjoy Zelda like games they aren't
the ones that capture me immediately. Which is why I'm saying early judgement on my end.

I think I know somewhat of the twist in shadow of the colossus, which will likely make the experience lesser than it would be if I didn't know or have a clue, but I can't really expect to get the full treatment when I'm so late to the party. So I'll just see if I enjoy the scenery and gameplay.

Edit: off to bed, I'll reply tomorrow sometime if I remember to on other replies.
 
caid said:
Both Zelda and SotC will suffer from expectations after a certain point. Playing them when they were released helps imo
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Aye, it was the PS3/PSN re-release I played, so less timely. Still, a good game should be a good game forever.

I remember the controls being horrific, that was the biggest problem I had with it, sluggish and stodgy.
 
Redlambs said:
:lol: yeah you have!

Sucker.
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Assassins Creed Origins is a far better game than Breath of the Wild.

Better graphics
Better sound
An open world that actually has things in it
Better combat
Better side quests
Better quests in general, it actually has a story
Better game mechanics
Far more variation

Can you handle it?
 
The Bloody-Nine said:
Assassins Creed Origins is a far better game than Breath of the Wild.

Better graphics
Better sound
An open world that actually has things in it
Better combat
Better side quests
Better quests in general, it actually has a story
Better game mechanics
Far more variation

Can you handle it?
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Fable and Crackdown piss on both.

You can have same sex marriage in Fable, so it trumps anything you said about Origins or Witcher.

Crackdown 3 has the cloud. Do any of the games you mentioned have the cloud?

Ain’t I right @Alock1?
 
Bojan11 said:
Fable and Crackdown piss on both.

You can have same sex marriage in Fable, so it trumps anything you said about Origins or Witcher.

Crackdown 3 has the cloud. Do any of the games you mentioned have the cloud?

Ain’t I right @Alock1?
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Goddamn. I can't dispute the cloud argument. No one can. :(
 
Shame what the two have become. Crackdown 1 was lots of good fun and Fable a great series.

But yes, both are still better than Zelda.
 
Alock1 said:
Shame what the two have become. Crackdown 1 was lots of good fun and Fable a great series.

But yes, both are still better than Zelda.
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Not taking the thread too off topic.

But a verified dev on resetera said he heard the rpg that playgrounds are working on is Fable. Hopefully it’s true.

Fable 1 and 2 were good games despite Molyneux misleading people. 3 was just rushed and terrible. The voice acting in Fable was better than anything you’d get in Zelda, Witcher or Origins. That for me is what makes gaming special hearing great voices and a good story.

Crackdown 1 was fun with a mate then got repetitive. 2 was made by a different developer and sucked. But 3 has the support of the cloud.
 
Earthquake said:
Aye, it was the PS3/PSN re-release I played, so less timely. Still, a good game should be a good game forever.

I remember the controls being horrific, that was the biggest problem I had with it, sluggish and stodgy.
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I struggled with them initially but they felt very right after a certain point. They were unconventional in parts i guess.
The horse was intentionally a bit slow to react for instance.
Guy who made it said the team went out one day for horseriding and one thing that they noticed was that there was a delay between them deciding they were turning, pulling the reins and the horse reacting to that and beginning to turn. He wanted the player to feel that and for them to feel in control of Wander but not so much Agro.
Its just a nice touch, one of thousands that kind of charmed me.
 
Ødegaard said:
Leveling was fine for me, I had enough fun leveling and running around in the world and learned about the map as I went through it.
Alchemy was fine for me, but I'm sure there are ways to "break the game" through alchemy, just as you can break other games through specific builds.
World physics were fine for me, really don't get your issues here, maybe you had a faulty console or pc?
Combat was fine for me, I had just come off dark souls and didn't mind the change of pace. I can play Fire Emblem and have fun and move to Zelda and have fun and move towards the next from softwares game and have fun with that. Rarely will there be a combat system that truly feels a hundred percent fun for me, and when it does it's usually due to a gimmick i genuinely enjoy - like leveling additions on the legend of dragoon. Others will find it dogshit, I'll find it fun.

Monster A.I was A.I like in any other game, in other words fine for me.
Item balancing was a big issue as supposed "epic finds" were throwaway items not worth keeping.
For me there was the added literal headache from witcher senses, but i won't hold that against the game.
Played it on the first-gen ps4 and had no run-issues. I recently got Tomb Raider as a gift from a friend on the pc, and it keeps crashing constantly due to terrible programming. It's a beautiful game with interesting game-play, but those issues wouldn't annoy me if i got it on the ps4, I'm sure, so while I wouldn't recommend to people to play the pc-port, i'd happily say the game itself comes across as fun and enjoyable.

BotW:
Recipes - Link can't keep a cook-book.
World physics - Horses are scared of going down a slightly downward angle and you have to force them to do a weird as feck dance to get down.
Monster A.I is simplistic as feck in BotW just as it is in most other open world games, not holding it against it, but it's not pushing stuff here either, and I wouldn't expect it to.
And this is from just a few hours of playing the game.

Obviously I think BotW is a fun game so far, but it's not the masterpiece a lot of people claim it to be - for me. If it is for them, that's great! My best friend has put in 500 or so hours into BotW and is loving it, finished it fully on both the wii u and the switch. I won't tell her that the game is shit as it's obviously one of her favorite games of all time, but we can agree that there is a difference in how enjoyable it is for us as individuals and it has it's massive upsides and it's downfalls like any other great game.

I don't believe I'll see a perfect game anytime soon, but most are enjoyable as they are.
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This post is full of ridiculous double standards. For a start, you ask me if I have a faulty PC or console, yet you can't run Tombraider? But yeah, it's the fault of that pesky 'programming' :rolleyes:

Noob.


The Bloody-Nine said:
Assassins Creed Origins is a far better game than Breath of the Wild.

Better graphics
Better sound
An open world that actually has things in it
Better combat
Better side quests
Better quests in general, it actually has a story
Better game mechanics
Far more variation

Can you handle it?
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I believe I can handle it.

It's not a masterpeice though, just because I don't understand it and I can't ridiculously level up in it and I've fallen in love with zelda and I'll never appreciate another game ever and will always judge them by the standards I've convinced myself that zelda has, then I'll come into a different game thread and say this even though no one cares and I don't actually get any of it because I can't move on and appreciate that there'll be better games. Because I suck and I'm a nerd.

So there.
 
I’m right in the middle of AC Origins now. I can confirm @The Bloody-Nine is incorrect..
About everything

It is a decent game though, but not as good as some previous AC games
 
Redlambs said:
This post is full of ridiculous double standards. For a start, you ask me if I have a faulty PC or console, yet you can't run Tombraider? But yeah, it's the fault of that pesky 'programming' :rolleyes:

Noob.




I believe I can handle it.

It's not a masterpeice though, just because I don't understand it and I can't ridiculously level up in it and I've fallen in love with zelda and I'll never appreciate another game ever and will always judge them by the standards I've convinced myself that zelda has, then I'll come into a different game thread and say this even though no one cares and I don't actually get any of it because I can't move on and appreciate that there'll be better games. Because I suck and I'm a nerd.

So there.
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This is getting pathetic.
I have a 2.9Ghz quad-core I7 processor, 8gb graphics card, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd and 1tb hdd. The community on steam has been up front about it being a programming issue on Tomb Riders end.
But fantastic stuff. You've shown yourself to be just another fanboy at this point. Another one to the ignore list then.
 
Redlambs said:
There's many ways to do everything in this game :)

BTW cooking meals with the hot peppers works, plus you kind find a top to wear that stops the cold in two places on the Plateau.
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I did some hunting and spent ten minutes being Ainsley Harriott and earned the cold weather jerkin.
All set for shrine 4 now, would have done it yesterday but I cocked about so much hunting, fishing with bombs and generally messing about that I ran out of time!
 
Ødegaard said:
This is getting pathetic.
I have a 2.9Ghz quad-core I7 processor, 8gb graphics card, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd and 1tb hdd. The community on steam has been up front about it being a programming issue on Tomb Riders end.
But fantastic stuff. You've shown yourself to be just another fanboy at this point. Another one to the ignore list then.
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:lol: Dude, we are having a little laugh I think you've miss-understood or I have, I thought you were playing along with that console/PC line :)

It's always the same when someone comes into these threads with the whole "I don't get why people..." it's never going to go well as some just don't understand that people like different games. So might as well have a bit of light-hearted fun rather than a tedious discussion that has no logical conclusion for the 1000th time.
 
It feels good being this enamoured with a new Zelda game again, it's probably the first time since Wind Waker. I was never big fan of Twliight Princess and looking back I'm not really sure what I thought of Skyward Sword.
 
R.N7 said:
It feels good being this enamoured with a new Zelda game again, it's probably the first time since Wind Waker. I was never big fan of Twliight Princess and looking back I'm not really sure what I thought of Skyward Sword.
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Yeah that pretty much echoes my feelings on them. I think Skyward sword would have been brilliant with the sword system if the game didn't have such a tedious and ridiculously long opening, but overall I just struggle to place it.
 
Ødegaard said:
This is getting pathetic.
I have a 2.9Ghz quad-core I7 processor, 8gb graphics card, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd and 1tb hdd. The community on steam has been up front about it being a programming issue on Tomb Riders end.
But fantastic stuff. You've shown yourself to be just another fanboy at this point. Another one to the ignore list then.
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:lol:

Dude, we were just messing around and trolling each other.
 
People get different things from different games, that's fair enough if some place Witcher 3 that highly. It's a bona fide masterpiece, even if I have issues with a lot of the elements. I have issues with Zelda too, but it's still a fecking masterpiece of game creation :lol:
 
Redlambs said:
Yeah that pretty much echoes my feelings on them. I think Skyward sword would have been brilliant with the sword system if the game didn't have such a tedious and ridiculously long opening, but overall I just struggle to place it.
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I didn't really mind the opening, the story was probably the game's biggest strength. My biggest gripe was the linearity of the game, maybe the least open world in any Zelda game?
 
Ducklegs said:
Cant take that place seriously with the clowns on there saying RE4 isnt even “one of” the best games of all time.

If there is a debate to be had with RE4 (there isnt) its whether or not its “The” greatest game of all time, or the second, behind what ever nonsense that person is proposing.
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Don’t ever take that place seriously.

Some of them don’t even know how to wipe their own arse literally...
 
Redlambs said:
People get different things from different games, that's fair enough if some place Witcher 3 that highly. It's a bona fide masterpiece, even if I have issues with a lot of the elements. I have issues with Zelda too, but it's still a fecking masterpiece of game creation :lol:
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I suppose we have different things we call masterpieces. I'd give both 9 or 10 out of 10 (again, not far enough into Zelda to properly see how good it is), but to call something a masterpiece I'll not have anything to comment on as a negative thing, neither TW3 or BotW so far to me gets that notice. :p
 
Ducklegs said:
I ordered one today, ordered Zelda and Skyrim, will keep me going till Bayonetta is released in February.

I might pick up Resident Evil Revelations as well.
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Revelations is a decent port actually, some reviews have said about framerate, but they must have been early copies as I've finished 1 and am now playing through 2 and there's no real issue I've come across. The loading times in 2 are a bit shit though, but I guess that's more down to it being on a memory card.

Decent pair of games though.
 
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