With the world the show has created a cure doesn’t even seem necessary. Infected nowhere to be seen.
Television The Last of Us - TV Series HBO | NO GAME REFERENCES OR SPOILERS | Receives 24 Emmy nominations
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It's in fecking bold letters in the title too.
Only humans are infected by the cordyceps. One of the "nice" things about the world in The Last of Us is how much better nature is doing after human civilization collapsed.
Anyone else here like me not ever played the game and thought that was an awful episode?
Why did you think it was awful?
I do feel they could've canned 1 of the flashback episodes (I'd scrap the 2nd one as the Bill and Frank one was amazing) and spend more time with Joel and Ellie to connect us with them more. Would've made this episode even more impactful.
Still it was fantastic. And I really liked that they didnt make the action suspenseful as much as they made it tragic.
Still it was fantastic. And I really liked that they didnt make the action suspenseful as much as they made it tragic.
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Thought the finale was great. Enjoyed every ep bar maybe 7 which I thought dragged and could have been done in half the time.
The dilemma at the end is always intriguing. Saving one Vs sacrificing one to save the world.
Obviously you wanna give Ellie the choice but then again is she at the right age to make the decision? Who would be her guardian, Joel who she just met recently or the one who has known her mother and who her mother gave Ellie to. Or does that change in an apocalyptic world?
All intriguing (well for Me) things to think about in that situation. Both sides would see what they did as right but we follow Joel and Ellie so will also have a bias as to what we want to happen.
All in all great season and can't wait for the next one
The dilemma at the end is always intriguing. Saving one Vs sacrificing one to save the world.
Obviously you wanna give Ellie the choice but then again is she at the right age to make the decision? Who would be her guardian, Joel who she just met recently or the one who has known her mother and who her mother gave Ellie to. Or does that change in an apocalyptic world?
All intriguing (well for Me) things to think about in that situation. Both sides would see what they did as right but we follow Joel and Ellie so will also have a bias as to what we want to happen.
All in all great season and can't wait for the next one
Didn't USA clocks change so time difference changed
I think that part is fair. I think they could have increased the threat in one of the previous episodes, even if it's not direct encounters but just basically having to avoid them to show they are about
For me the bill and frank story was too long same as Ellie's love story, when you consider it was only 9 episodes they used too much time for those stories that could have been used elsewhere.
there was not many infected in the whole story and I would have rathered see some more infected than all that time being used for the love stories. I pretty much zoned out of episode 8 mostly until the end.
there was not many infected in the whole story and I would have rathered see some more infected than all that time being used for the love stories. I pretty much zoned out of episode 8 mostly until the end.
Okey now I have time to play TLOU II until next season
Overall the show was a huge triumph for me. A little underwhelmed by the finale, might be because I know what happens but didn’t really feel it or maybe it’s just me being unrealistic. Still, great show!
Thought the events of the finale happened too quickly. The lack of infected/clickers was a bit disappointing since they're so integral to the world & the purpose of taking Ellie to the Fireflies.
Play that shit asap.
I fear spoilers, but I have quick a yes/no question(I haven't played the games):
Does season 1 follow the storyline of game 1? Or to be more specific: does season 1 end exactly where game 1 ends?
Does season 1 follow the storyline of game 1? Or to be more specific: does season 1 end exactly where game 1 ends?
Finale definitely felt a bit rushed to me. Like they just wanted it to be over.
It definitely felt like they made Joel more likeable and Marlene more cnutish (the whole her being there when Ellie was born wasn’t in the game IIRC, so basically implied she raised her to die)
Yes. It’s virtually identical.
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Yes.
Cheers!
I'm both happy and disappointed then. I'm happy that I didn't get spoiled(I must have read a fake season 1 spoiler at one point, which accidentally made things more intense
). I don't quite think that they stuck the landing, though. I still liked it and think it beats most things on TV now, but I don't think it's anywhere near a masterpiece. Love Pedro Pascal though. The man doesn't miss.Sounds similar to what happened to nature during covid lockdown. Human beings can be so destructive.
I might be the only one. Loves the series like most, but not tempted to play the game. For me there was only 2 parts that looked like great game material, the sniper and hospital scene.
I know it’s been adapted for tv so lots of the killing and avoiding clickers has probably been left to the viewers imagination as it’s not essential for to the storyline
I know it’s been adapted for tv so lots of the killing and avoiding clickers has probably been left to the viewers imagination as it’s not essential for to the storyline
I am not sure what else they would put in it, felt fine to me tbh. If anything the hospital part with Joel was a bit overdone if anything.
They spent the right amount of time on those episodes, the let down for me was they could have made it a doube episode season finale or something, double the time spent on the hospital scene rather than him just meeting 1v1 duels over and over when we all know Joel would be hugely out numbered if they all attacked him at once. Maybe one or two more zombie encounters, a few more flash backs perhaps. Just felt the pace was completely off. Loved the series as a whole though.
It certainly hit different in the show, I don't think Joel comes across nearly as selfish till the very end of the show, whereas in the game the minute you flame throwered the doctor, threw a brick at his corpse and then proceeded to t-bag it infront of those nurses before rescuing Ellie, Joel came across slightly worse.
My thinking was if that was my daughter I would be trying the exact same thing. If she's the cure then fair enough, they can have her when she's 80 years old instead if they still need it then.
I wonder how they will tackle the part in game two when you need to switch your controller port to allow Joel to kill psycho mantis.
Giraffes can be vicious bastards if threatened.
Really feel like they should have had more menace from the infected in the last episode. We have them running about a new city they have never been in calling out to each other without a care in the world. It really just clashes with the idea that the infected are this massive threat that we need a cure for at all costs. So by the time you get to the point of Ellie on the table for the cure, its been ages since we actually saw a present day clicker threat. Makes it very hard to even justify the fire flies position of rushing for a cure and wanting to kill her.
I've always sided with Joel (as in my posts above) but even more so after watching the finale. A lot of people blame Marlene and I'm one of them, all she had to do was ask Ellie and the entire thing doesn't happen but I digress.
Theres a couple of reasons for this, we see so little of the infected that we kinda forget they're a threat, they haven't shown up in game since Rose from 2 and a Half Men bar the backstory. Thats a pretty long time in terms of how far they've travelled and they've only really been a danger in Episode 2 and 5 iirc... so the infected problem comes across as less than it probably is supposed to, and b, Marlene being there with Ellies mom, which means she should have a good idea why she's immune so saying Ellie is the only hope just isn't true.
One thing about Marlene. In the flashback she does it with a purpose, no hesitation, then she cries. She’s all about the purpose.
My feeling when they told Joel how they were planning to use Ellie's brain to create a "vaccine" was that it sounded dubious at best and probably had an incredibly low chance of success. Once the surgeon was dead it would surely have been a moot point anyway?
No. I have never played the game and thought it was a very good finale.
You just got me thinking. Marlene talks about how half her group died on the way out West. Trying to recall if it's clarified or suggested whether that was because of infected or people. One of the resounding feelings I have from the show is that humans have more or less figured out cohabitation of the planet with the cordycps and that often the bigger threat is just ourselves.
What good really is a cure then?
I always thought the cure/vaccine was an important first step in humanity being able to reform into larger communities. Small, remote places (like Jackson) are relatively safe, but it would be incredibly difficult to rebuild civilization with the threat of unchecked mushroom zombies always around the city corner.
Same. I’m intrigued to see where the lie Joel told goes. Sets it’s up nicely for the next season.
This sort of paracitism in nature tend to occur with incredibly numerous and rapidy reproducing host species. In the scenario of this series the infections seem to occur very rapidly initially and given that the infected can't reproduce, and just pass on the infection by biting, then once human numbers are low the the rates of human death/infection vs "zombie" death would reverse and "zombies" would possibly even die out eventually. That said the slime mould that makes "zombies" out of ants doesn't only reproduce this way so reinfection would likley be possible in the way it originally passed to humans. Although if humans can/did get infected from sources other than other humans (which must have happened) why aren't the survivors getting infected without being bitten? if they are then a vaccine/cure would be far more important.
A cure would obviously help but how you would even create it is dubious in the extreme and even if you did how do you manufacture it and distribute it?
The idea that the slime mould was growing in her brain but somehow adapted is very long bow to draw. Far more likely they way she was originally exposed e.g. limited small does or some difference between very brief exposue only via the umbilical cord, would result in some sort of immunity. Our immune system does usually protect us from fungus and slime moulds. I guess if the slime mould in her brain was somehow different, and you could get a sample, then make some sort of inactive version, then a vaccine is vaguely possible but ........
I may be overthinking this
You didn't kill the nurses as well? You are a better man than me then.
My feeling is that it’s a Cnut thing to do and murder… regardless of the motives. If they asked and she agreed then it’s different.. but then you have the element of her age
I felt that last ep and the one before were very rushed. Especially when Joel was one minute in a coma and a paracetamol later, he turns into vin diesel. Overall I would give the show a solid 7/10.
Really needed to be 10 eps.
Really needed to be 10 eps.
Yeah that part was a bit ridiculous
The ability of TV and movie people to do lots of stuff after getting shot / stabbed / hit in the head with a brick always amazes me. There's only so much disbelief one can suspend.
Yeah they should make zombie apocalypse shows a bit more realistic
.Loved it overall. Even more so that it was the first show I've watched in ages where I've had to wait a week for the next episode.
I know we got a payoff in the second episode with the "hive mind" style infected but I was hoping it was going to be called back to at some point later in the season. The last episode did feel a bit rushed but I feel like they ticked all of the boxes that they needed to. I do keep thinking that another run in with the infected would have been good, especially in this episode, but I struggle to think where it would have realistically fit in without distracting from the narrative they were pulling.