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So am I the only one who felt loads of tension in this episode? Those quick cut aways and camera angles at times had me convinced something was going to make me jump.
I think thats the bit that has been slowly eating away at me. The scarcity of moments of threat or peril, its been great how the story has been told in terms of characters and depth to the story but its lacked as you mention desperation for survival situations.Nobody here is calling for zombies tearing everyone apart all the time for Christ sake. Can we also stop calling them zombies since they are living (infected) and not the undead.
What we are calling for is to incorporate higher stakes through the medium of facing life or death situations against the infected more than has been experienced thus far. The prologues in E1 and E2 have no combat with any infected, yet created high tension and fear for the viewer. It set a precedent which it failed to follow through on in later episodes.
At no point during E7 did the viewer get chance to really fear for Riley and Ellie and experience a desperation for their survival. I really believe it takes away from our relationship with them throughout the series. After all, it is a desperation for their own survival that pushes them to keep going.
Another example is at the end of E6 where Joel gets stabbed. It was very rushed. Bandits appear and almost instantaneously Joel gets stabbed. At no point do we get to go through the motions of worrying if they will make it out of this situation alive/unharmed etc.There is almost zero interaction between Joel/Ellie and the bandits. We then don’t get as much of a glimpse into how depraved the human race has become in this new post apocalyptic world. The whole situation lacked any real threat. That’s just bad screenplay.
This series has done a lot of things right, granted. But it’s also got so much wrong and that’s a crying shame.
No, with the way it's filmed I expect shit to happen all the time whenever characters are away from safe zones like Tommy's community and the QZs.So am I the only one who felt loads of tension in this episode? Those quick cut aways and camera angles at times had me convinced something was going to make me jump.
Same. But it never delivered.So am I the only one who felt loads of tension in this episode? Those quick cut aways and camera angles at times had me convinced something was going to make me jump.
I didn't love this episode but that is the one thing that I think it did succeed in doing. From the moment that zombie (and yes I'm going to call it a zombie because getting pedantic about such things is a bit ridiculous) wakes up, the rest of the scenes between Ellie and Reilly are imbued with a sense of impending dread (granted the actual attack wasn't great, for reasons that I've mentioned in an earlier post.)Nobody here is calling for zombies tearing everyone apart all the time. Can we also stop calling them zombies since they are living (infected) and not the undead.
What we are calling for is to incorporate higher stakes through the medium of facing life or death situations against the infected more than has been experienced thus far. The prologues in E1 and E2 have no combat with any infected, yet created high tension and fear for the viewer. It set a precedent which it failed to follow through on in later episodes.
At no point during E7 did the viewer get chance to really fear for Riley and Ellie and experience a desperation for their survival. I really believe it takes away from our relationship with them throughout the series. After all, it is a desperation for their own survival that pushes them to keep going.
Another example is at the end of E6 where Joel gets stabbed. It was very rushed. Bandits appear and almost instantaneously Joel gets stabbed. At no point do we get to go through the motions of worrying if they will make it out of this situation alive/unharmed etc.There is almost zero interaction between Joel/Ellie and the bandits. We then don’t get as much of a glimpse into how depraved the human race has become in this new post apocalyptic world. The whole situation lacked any real threat. That’s just bad screenplay.
This series has done a lot of things right, granted. But it’s also got so much wrong and that’s a crying shame.
The show runners are setting this up really well. Most recent episode looks to be a trough, even if it's not that low, and with only 2 episodes remaining in the season....we should be expecting a lot of greatness.
The backstories have been completed now with Joel and Ellie, I think. Now it's full speed ahead focused on what's next with Joel's situation knowing what's to come the fact that there's a season 2.
But don't they still have to show the end of Ellie/Riley story, how, I assume, Riley transforms, and how the Fireflies end up capturing Ellie and realize she is immune?
Based on the second option they talked about, Ellie and Riley just stayed in there till Riley turned and Ellie had to kill her. Then in the morning or the other day, the FireFlies with Marlene found them there with only Ellie alive. If you recall, the mall was a Firefly outpost and Riley was supposed to leave to Atlanta in the morning, so its very likely Fireflies and Marlene came looking for her there.
In an earlier episode Ellie tells Joel that it's not the first time she's had to kill a person. That person was Riley. I assume from then, when Riley doesn't return to the Firefly's they send out a crack squad of elites to sweep the mall and find Ellie. I've embellished the last bit... They kinda go through it in the episode podcast
edit: what @Amarsdd said
@Wittmann45 I asked a similar question and @Amarsdd and @Drawfull answered it. Appreciate their input and super helpful in getting that context.
Fear, jeopardy and horror intensify human relationships when faced with these situations. As a viewer they’ve missed making us feel the character’s trepidation, and be desperate for them to survive such situations. This weakens the connection between viewer and character.
Anyone know what the watchmaker's wife says when she closes shop early? Sounds like arabic
Cheers!As said above, I've just binge watched and finally caught up.
Its Lebanese dialect. From memory, she says "don't you hear what's going on out there? Close the shop right now"
Nobody here is calling for zombies tearing everyone apart all the time. Can we also stop calling them zombies since they are living (infected) and not the undead.
We should also stop calling it fungus as well then as it is/should be slime mould. Pedants of the world unite
A little?Best episode of the season.
Glad it got a little grittier, been too tame to this point
Short? There will be more seasons surelyAnother great episode. This series is way too short.
Another great episode, but have no idea what to expect next week for the finale. I can't see it being wrapped up all that well, but let's see.
One small problem I had though was Joel's revival. He was basically dead, but then one (maybe two) shot of penicillin and he's up knocking lads out and then walking a few miles to the village.
But anyway, not a big deal. It's been a really enjoyable series so far.