Gaming The Last of Us Part II (PS4)

Days Gone was a far more enjoyable game than this.

Not sure. I thought Days Gone was fun but in very small bursts. The story was longer than it should have been filled with the same mind numbing repetitiveness. The whole open world just looked bland too.
 
Not sure. I thought Days Gone was fun but in very small bursts. The story was longer than it should have been filled with the same mind numbing repetitiveness. The whole open world just looked bland too.

Yeah Days Gone was bland in pretty much every aspect. The hordes were heart pumping but that's about it for me. TLOU2 at least had interesting environments and locations and a bit more enemy variety. Both went on for too long I'd say both would of benefited from having a good hour and a half shaved off.
 
Ive no idea why this got so much stick, I finally got round to playing it. just finished it and it is fantastic, a wonderful experience from start to finish
 
I actually enjoyed it more than the first one, amd I loved that one.

Same here. Just like you it took me ages to get around to playing it, and when I did I was blown away and couldnt stop playing it. The ending stuck with me for a few weeks after too.
 
Ive no idea why this got so much stick, I finally got round to playing it. just finished it and it is fantastic, a wonderful experience from start to finish
Great game. The only thing that bugs me is the way he died. Just felt empty. I'm glad they went with that ending. It was a ballsy move.
 
Same here. Just like you it took me ages to get around to playing it, and when I did I was blown away and couldnt stop playing it. The ending stuck with me for a few weeks after too.
Just finished today, feeling satisfied but like there is a gap I need to fill now :lol:
 
Same here. Just like you it took me ages to get around to playing it, and when I did I was blown away and couldnt stop playing it. The ending stuck with me for a few weeks after too.
Same! In fact I’d argue that in terms of pure feeling I’ve never thought about an ending to a game more. Really makes you feel. Looking forward to eventually having my second play through on the PS5.
 
I actually enjoyed it more than the first one, amd I loved that one.

Yeah, it's a much better game than the first, IMO. The first is a good game, but the second has so much more ambition about it. I love some of the bold moves they made and the gameplay is infinitely better!

It's a little too long, but I can forgive it for that. That sense of wanting to get to the next story beat is not something I've felt in almost any game before.
 
Yeah, it's a much better game than the first, IMO. The first is a good game, but the second has so much more ambition about it. I love some of the bold moves they made and the gameplay is infinitely better!

It's a little too long, but I can forgive it for that. That sense of wanting to get to the next story beat is not something I've felt in almost any game before.
Totally agree with every word
 
Yeah, it's a much better game than the first, IMO. The first is a good game, but the second has so much more ambition about it. I love some of the bold moves they made and the gameplay is infinitely better!

It's a little too long, but I can forgive it for that. That sense of wanting to get to the next story beat is not something I've felt in almost any game before.

I preferred the first one, i found the second one got stale gameplay wise and dragged a little for me.

I think i would of enjoyed the second more just watching someone play through it both excellent but the first one and the story was much better for me.
 
Bought on sale this weekend for $34 (Canadian). I'm nervous though, I've mostly managed to avoid spoilers but am aware that there's controversy regarding the story. I loved the characters and narrative in the first game. Equal parts excited and worried to see what they've done with it all for the sequel and why people are up in arms over it.

Finished it over the weekend. Thoughts:

Pros
- Really well made. Naughty Dog games are so damn polished.
- Facial animation is absurdly good and conveys emotion as well as any I've seen in a game, which is good given the nature of the story.
- Gameplay loop has been refined, far fewer annoying ladders and planks to place. Combat was already fun in the first, it's gotten better.

Cons
- Ellie is probably my most disliked main character in any game I've ever played. If she developed any less over the course of the story, she'd be going backwards.
- A bit too long, overall. Could have cut 4-6 hours imo.

I get why people were up in arms about various parts of the story and the shift the game takes halfway through, but personally I was relieved in the second half to have a break from what came before. Again, Ellie is the worst.
 
I was glad it was a long game

Cos I still wanted more :nervous:
I don’t know, by the end I felt emotionally exhausted. That final fight really took it out of me. When Abbie did what she did at the beginning of the game I wanted nothing more than to kill the cnut but by the end I was praying I wouldn’t have to kill her. :lol:
 
I don’t know, by the end I felt emotionally exhausted. That final fight really took it out of me. When Abbie did what she did at the beginning of the game I wanted nothing more than to kill the cnut but by the end I was praying I wouldn’t have to kill her. :lol:
:lol: same regarding the final fight
It was so well done flipping the narrative
 
When Abbie did what she did at the beginning of the game I wanted nothing more than to kill the cnut but by the end I was praying I wouldn’t have to kill her. :lol:
Same. Aside from all the nonsense written about the storyline in TLOU2, evoking this feeling was an impressive feat for a game. Like you, I was spent at the end.
 
Nah. I wish I could have killed her in the end
 
I'm probably 40% (ramdom guess) through it and although less has happened that I thought would have by now, I'm absolutely loving it. The gameplay is surprisingly good and a huge step up from the original. It feels very Days Gone in how Ellie controls and the combat mechanics, which is a good thing as I felt Days Gone did an excellent job in this regard. The original was very clunky and clumsy in its gameplay which wad the worst part about it. The resource gathering /upgrades upgrades lacks something. You don't feel anything really makes a serious difference to the experience. But in terms of atmosphere, world and combat, especially, so far, this has been highly impressive.
 
Picked this up recently on sale. Just finished with Seattle, cant say im enjoying it. I guess enjoyable wasn't the aim. Just feels very cruel. Brilliantly designed and constructed but im struggling to continue playing, just feels like im constantly being punished for caring about any of the characters. Guess there shouldn't be much left to go.
 
Picked this up recently on sale. Just finished with Seattle, cant say im enjoying it. I guess enjoyable wasn't the aim. Just feels very cruel. Brilliantly designed and constructed but im struggling to continue playing, just feels like im constantly being punished for caring about any of the characters. Guess there shouldn't be much left to go.
I'm thoroughly enjoying it. The intensity of and tightness gameplay and exploration aspect is spot on, thus far. But given it I'd narrative driven the story will have to deliver. Would have to see how that pans out.
 
I'm thoroughly enjoying it. The intensity of and tightness gameplay and exploration aspect is spot on, thus far. But given it I'd narrative driven the story will have to deliver. Would have to see how that pans out.
Oh technically its outstanding. Really strong and i'd struggle to find criticism of any aspect. I just feel like its been punching me in the gut every hour or two for a long time. I'm just drained, i'm pretty sure i dont want to know what happens next anymore. I kind of feel sorry for asking what happens after the first game (which i replayed just before starting this).
 
Picked this up recently on sale. Just finished with Seattle, cant say im enjoying it. I guess enjoyable wasn't the aim. Just feels very cruel. Brilliantly designed and constructed but im struggling to continue playing, just feels like im constantly being punished for caring about any of the characters. Guess there shouldn't be much left to go.

I felt this way and gave up on my first playthrough.

I'd recommend sticking with it as IMO it improves massively in the second act.
 
i'm pretty sure i dont want to know what happens next anymore.
I felt like this in the first one which is why I'm still not getting the second one despite it being super cheap, After a point I just wanted the next area to be the last one and I was relieved when it ended which isn't what you should feel if you have really enjoyed the game. I felt the same in UC4, but not the previous UCs, I think ND have dragged the last couple of stories and when that happens without adding anything to the combat or mechanics then people are bound to get bored.
 
I felt like this in the first one which is why I'm still not getting the second one despite it being super cheap, After a point I just wanted the next area to be the last one and I was relieved when it ended which isn't what you should feel if you have really enjoyed the game. I felt the same in UC4, but not the previous UCs, I think ND have dragged the last couple of stories and when that happens without adding anything to the combat or mechanics then people are bound to get bored.

I read his post as "I think I know where the story is going and I don't want that to happen". Not that he was bored of it.

Not all games are supposed to be full of joy and happiness, it makes games feel cheap doing the same happy ending and everything turns out ok in the end. A gritty game is a nice change now and again I think. Yeah they can be harder to get through because they're a bit mentally taxing, but they're more true to the real world than anything.
 
I read his post as "I think I know where the story is going and I don't want that to happen". Not that he was bored of it.

Not all games are supposed to be full of joy and happiness, it makes games feel cheap doing the same happy ending and everything turns out ok in the end. A gritty game is a nice change now and again I think. Yeah they can be harder to get through because they're a bit mentally taxing, but they're more true to the real world than anything.
I didn't mean happy or anything like that, I have no problem in playing something that has a tragic ending or whatever. But my complain from the first game was the inability to keep each stage fresh, which is important especially in a linear game. After around 70% or so I was just going "ffs not another random house/building with the same fat dudes roaming around!". The story was great no doubt and I'd love to watch it on TV, but it dragged on for sure. As did UC4 which when I played felt like it went on for fecking forever. It's just what has kept me from trying the second one.
 
I didn't mean happy or anything like that, I have no problem in playing something that has a tragic ending or whatever. But my complain from the first game was the inability to keep each stage fresh, which is important especially in a linear game. After around 70% or so I was just going "ffs not another random house/building with the same fat dudes roaming around!". The story was great no doubt and I'd love to watch it on TV, but it dragged on for sure. As did UC4 which when I played felt like it went on for fecking forever. It's just what has kept me from trying the second one.
Naughty Dog, as much as I love them, have had some pacing issues in the last few titles (with the exception of Lost Legacy). They need to find a way to evolve their formula. Maybe move away from their two main franchises for a while and do something different.
 
Naughty Dog, as much as I love them, have had some pacing issues in the last few titles (with the exception of Lost Legacy). They need to find a way to evolve their formula. Maybe move away from their two main franchises for a while and do something different.
Agreed. I think they are working on a fresh IP, no?

And is Lost Legacy good? Always thought of trying that as I usually loved the UC series and also Chloe! I feel that should come out on PS+ at this stage though! :lol:
 
I didn't mean happy or anything like that, I have no problem in playing something that has a tragic ending or whatever. But my complain from the first game was the inability to keep each stage fresh, which is important especially in a linear game. After around 70% or so I was just going "ffs not another random house/building with the same fat dudes roaming around!". The story was great no doubt and I'd love to watch it on TV, but it dragged on for sure. As did UC4 which when I played felt like it went on for fecking forever. It's just what has kept me from trying the second one.

I think it took me 3 or 4 goes to get through the first game :lol: always got to the bit after dangling upside down and gave up.

The last time I tried I couldn't put it down and completed it.

I do think tlou 2 was better than the first, didn't quite feel as samey all the way through imo.
 
Agreed. I think they are working on a fresh IP, no?

And is Lost Legacy good? Always thought of trying that as I usually loved the UC series and also Chloe! I feel that should come out on PS+ at this stage though! :lol:
It's decent. At the end of the day it's simply more Uncharted, but slightly more open (a bit like Madagascar in U4) and a much shorter experience.
 
Well i finished it. A great game i hated. basically.

I kind of opted out of most of the choices pretty early in the game, I wasn't really on board with hunting, torturing and murdering all the wolf guys. I dont know how seriously im meant to take the mass murder that occurs as part of the game, like is that gameplay stuff im kind of supposed to overlook for the purpose of story or am i playing rambo with a kill count in the hundreds in the space of a couple of days? The task i was undertaking just felt backwards and pointless pretty early on. The really brutal, violent way it goes about being done feels cruel and distasteful mostly. Then you get to play abbeys section and meet all the nice people you've spent the last few hours violently murdering and talking to them minutes / hours before they die just to really rub in the guilt and regret. Santa Barbara just felt redundant. More punishment for anyone who still liked any of the characters or had any silly notions about some possibly happy ending in a world that grim and broken. Another band of disgusting failures of decency to stab in the face.
If i had any meaningful choice over the course of the story i just would have bailed out and gone home a thousand times. I hated hunting ellie, i flat out put the controller down after breaking her arm and felt rubbish, cutscene took over at the point. Tried the same at the end and got to experience Ellie getting murdered over and over and over until i really beat the hell out of a malnourished half dead skeleton. It just felt completely miserable to play
 
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Well i finished it. A great game i hated. basically.

I kind of opted out of most of the choices pretty early in the game, I wasn't really on board with hunting, torturing and murdering all the wolf guys. I dont know how seriously im meant to take the mass murder that occurs as part of the game, like is that gameplay stuff im kind of supposed to overlook for the purpose of story or am i playing rambo with a kill count in the hundreds in the space of a couple of days? The task i was undertaking just felt backwards and pointless pretty early on. The really brutal, violent way it goes about being done feels cruel and distasteful mostly. Then you get to play abbeys section and meet all the nice people you've spent the last few hours violently murdering and talking to them minutes / hours before they die just to really rub in the guilt and regret. Santa Barbara just felt redundant. More punishment for anyone who still liked any of the characters or had any silly notions about some possibly happy ending in a world that grim and broken. Another band of disgusting failures of decency to stab in the face.
If i had any meaningful choice over the course of the story i just would have bailed out and gone home a thousand times. I hated hunting ellie, i flat out put the controller down after breaking her arm and felt rubbish, cutscene took over at the point. Tried the same at the end and got to experience Ellie getting murdered over and over and over until i really beat the hell out of a malnourished half dead skeleton. It just felt completely miserable to play

Still more fun than FIFA though.
 
Well i finished it. A great game i hated. basically.

I kind of opted out of most of the choices pretty early in the game, I wasn't really on board with hunting, torturing and murdering all the wolf guys. I dont know how seriously im meant to take the mass murder that occurs as part of the game, like is that gameplay stuff im kind of supposed to overlook for the purpose of story or am i playing rambo with a kill count in the hundreds in the space of a couple of days? The task i was undertaking just felt backwards and pointless pretty early on. The really brutal, violent way it goes about being done feels cruel and distasteful mostly. Then you get to play abbeys section and meet all the nice people you've spent the last few hours violently murdering and talking to them minutes / hours before they die just to really rub in the guilt and regret. Santa Barbara just felt redundant. More punishment for anyone who still liked any of the characters or had any silly notions about some possibly happy ending in a world that grim and broken. Another band of disgusting failures of decency to stab in the face.
If i had any meaningful choice over the course of the story i just would have bailed out and gone home a thousand times. I hated hunting ellie, i flat out put the controller down after breaking her arm and felt rubbish, cutscene took over at the point. Tried the same at the end and got to experience Ellie getting murdered over and over and over until i really beat the hell out of a malnourished half dead skeleton. It just felt completely miserable to play
it’s a post-apocalyptic lawless world. I’d say quite an accurate interpretation of one.

I enjoyed the game a lot but felt it dragged on a bit in the final 3rd. But story and setting and tone of it was on point I thought
 
Story was a hot mess. The Tommy heel turn at the end was so weird.

Abby decision at the theater, decision to start killing the wolves etc

Just a complete mess of motivations and made it all so underwhelming.
 
The ending was so bad as well. Lots of good to great pieces in a pool full of shite unfortunately.