Let's be real. People are just upset that he's getting sacked. That's where the whole "classless" outrage comes from. Even the majority of this forum was expecting it to happen and now people are acting like it's shocking news that came out of the blue. Ineos refused to publicly back him for months, wtf did everyone think was going to happen, especially after the atrocious season we've had?
The Guardian - Manchester United to sack Erik ten Hag after the FA Cup Final
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If there is any truth to this report it’s an absolute disgrace and the club has learned nothing from the way Woodward treated LVG and the way we treated DDG last summer. Ashamed. 
That’s the feeling I have. Very poor show again from the club.If there is any truth to this report it’s an absolute disgrace and the club has learned nothing from the way Woodward treated LVG and the way we treated DDG last summer. Ashamed.
It’s certainly a very shitty way to go into an important cup final.
I honestly don't get this outrage about his sacking. And mostly the outrage is not even about a leak before the final. And people already starting to call ineos disgraceful for sacking him? If I had no context, I'd think he was being sacked for shits-and-giggles after he's finished 2-3rd in the league and QF-SF in the CL. I don't get it. Do people still have this much hope for ETH? I don't and tbf neither with the next hopefuls for the manager position.
Well you clearly haven't followed Bayern this year or recently
Real are an even worse exampleThe ultimate manager fan boy over club support post.
Name calling new owners that have been here 5 minutes.
Have you seriously watched United since we won the league cup last year? It has been a nadir of epic proportions
I still hope he stays. Thinking he’s the problem and that it’ll change with Pochettino or whoever is naive. Look at the past 10 years.
The sacking culture of managers in the PL is horrible. The common denominator with successfull teams tend to be consistency. The amount of injures we’ve had this season, I doubt say Pochettino or Tuchel would’ve done much better. Looking at the last season that we didn’t have record breaking amounts of injuries, there actually was a lot of progress. He deserves another half a season, at least.
The sacking culture of managers in the PL is horrible. The common denominator with successfull teams tend to be consistency. The amount of injures we’ve had this season, I doubt say Pochettino or Tuchel would’ve done much better. Looking at the last season that we didn’t have record breaking amounts of injuries, there actually was a lot of progress. He deserves another half a season, at least.
I don't think so much much related to wanting ETH to stay, but rather people are conflating this story with what's happened in the past
In the past under Woody we fecked up the communications a few times in a disrespectful way to staff, notably LVG, De Gea and Herrera
That may or may not have happened here, but we don't know what's happened. All we know is a journalist has got hold of the story and published it.
People are a bit thick if they don't think Ten Hag is looking out for himself. All this shite about him having no idea, thinking he's safe blah blah blah it's all self preservation so he can look better. Just like how all his press conferences have been defensive of himself.
Usual suspects falling for it and wanting to whinge at the way the club is handling it.
Usual suspects falling for it and wanting to whinge at the way the club is handling it.
He had a good season last year and the signs were good.
this season has been laughably bad, injuries or no injuries. i've never in my 26 years supporting united seen us this bad. he's got some transfers horribly wrong and his over reliance on players he's previously worked with has been ilhis undoing.
i don't think Sacking him is harsh, the timing is horrific but i think he probably warrants the sack.
I tend to agree. We don't know that it wasn't his team that leaked the news. Build in another excuse should be get thumped v City.
He has been in self preservation mode for some time.
Constantly bleating on about the injuries. Well, how about you give some confidence to those players who are covering for the injured players, and back them to do a job.
how? Bind and Gag all members of staff and put them in the basement at Carrington? you can't stop people from talking for feck sake
Errrrrm… no mate. I think ten Hag needs to be replaced and we definitely need a full reset.
But the owners?… Radcliffe is awful mate. Bad politics. Outdated business principles. Doesn’t know football any more than you or I.
As with Nice, the sooner he appoints people that know what they’re doing, the better.
Tubthumping for a vampiric anti-union, anti regulation, free market capitalist as the country evacuates that wrong headed shite from our politics is insane.
I support my club and the team that takes the field. That’s it. I’ll never go the Chelsea/City route and cheer a fecking owner. Nor should you.
Good post but don't be expecting miracles from Starmer
Exactly. What sort of prep this week has even been possible under this cloud.
It is quite incredible that fans love to use the Roy Keane line - "these players will throw any manager under the bus".
Yet, it's the players signed by previous manager, or that are academy products, that have been his better performers. How many times has McT rescued us this season? How necessary was Mainoo to come in and play a key role in midfield? The emergence of Garnacho.
Players player of the year the last two seasons - Rashford and Dallot. Sir Matt award - Rashford and Bruno.
I’m club above all else. We are stuck with current owners for the foreseeable, so I don’t see the point in knocking before at least a season or so with them in place.
Or do we all get pitchforks out now and start the Luddite revolution?
So The Guardian is the new hotbed for Manchester united news???
how would you go about preventing Poch or another managers agent from leaking the story?
We've had an atrocious last 10 years. It's never been the manager. Until the delusional, gaslighting owners and board and the entitled, prima donna players are vomited out, and there's a complete overhaul of the culture, we ain't winning ANYTHING.
Anyone could write a story like this.
I like how we have decided to sack him but the article still says we are still considering about 5 possible candidates.....absolute shite!
A West ham journo broke it too, who'd have thought.
Yes but success comes before longevity. If a manager is successful they will stay in a job a long time. If a manager is failing they will in 99% of cases get sacked. And this isn't a new phenomena, clubs have been sacking managers since the game was invented. The club sacked 5 managers between Busby retiring and hiring Ferguson in the 70's and 80's. We've been on a downward trajectory from the last 3rd of last season that continued on into this season. Injuries alone can't account for that.
If sacking him won't change anything, what would change if he stayed?
The Guardian tend to follow good press practice and the three source rule. It would be surprising if a journalist at the Guardian wrote something that definitive without having verified it with three independent sources first.
Im not knocking the decision mate. Put anyone in charge of a multi billion pound business and they’ll want to choose the staff. I would, you would. Unless the management team is shining, your back yourself to find better.
My problem is the fact he’s opened his mouth prior to a cup final. It’s moronic.
Had this been an isolated incident I’d chalk it up to inexperience. But he’s yet to get anything right, aside from (maybe) Berrada. The Ashworth situation is laughable. The Wilcox appointment way too noisy. His media presence talking politics. The WFH nonsense. The end of season Party for the women’s team. The removal of an FA Cup club/family tradition going back 60+ years - instilled by our first great manager and leading light of the club. It’s just utterly shit.
So yeah, I’ll criticise every single thing he does that dilutes the football club. I don’t care how new he is. Everything above is worse than Woodwards ‘adult Disneyland’ nonsense.
He’s being given a pass as he’s not a Glazer. But he didn’t get rid of them. They’re still there. Taking cash. He’s the lipstick on their pig and I don’t think he’s a good thing for our club.
@UnrelatedPsuedo genuinely no idea why you’re melting down over INEOS
Cause he only cares about what happens on the pitch but then also that our owners must vote labour or something.
And we didn't throw a Christmas party.
The hope was that INEOS would be better operators. They have come into a shit show, but the signs aren't good at the start.
The manager should go, but there is a cup final to try and win first.
The manager should go, but there is a cup final to try and win first.
For that story to have any credence we would have our next manager in mind and given assurances the individual would be on board.
This article is still talking about Southgate FFS!
The Guardian have rolled the dice to get in first to grab the headlines and while I think it will happen this rag knows no more than any other out there.
On the contrary, they've handled every decision almost perfectly and have reached the right conclusion 9/10 times.
Let’s face it we all watched Ajax’s run to the semis in 2019 and saw stars in our eyes.
We didn’t expect stubborn, naive, annoying and plain stupid from the guy that got that Ajax team so right.
Does any United fan honestly think we’ll win tomorrow?
Pretty sure they can see the writing on the wall and the cup final is an irrelevancy.
Would actually be a nice change from the shite he’s served up constantly.
Well he has had 2 full seasons and played the worst football I've ever seen from us for the majority of it despite being backed with half a billion.
I think the cries for patience would have the unspoken caveat that there needs to be at least mild signs of progress.
Whether we do win or not, for all this stuff to be coming out on the eve of a final is just ridiculous.
By all means sack him after it, win or lose, but the media management is atrocious.
I think Chelsea ruined it to be honest by being so aggressive in going after the same managerial targets
Going by how Chelsea's ownership operates we shouldn't be worried by who they target anyway.
It is a Cup final and there have been a few upsets over the years.
It's a funny old game.
Who knows? It's football and anything can happen over 90 minutes. We're not favourites but it's still entirely possible that we win, stranger things happen every day.
I go into the game, with maybe more hope than expectation but I don't get the mindset of doom and the expectation of certain defeat.
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