absolutely a freak of nature
do you recall when he ran up the wall in the outfield?
The Greatest Athlete Ever.
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absolutely a freak of nature
do you recall when he ran up the wall in the outfield?
Yeah, was trying to find it on youtube with no success. I also remember him breaking a bat over his thigh and hitting a line drive grounder off Nolan Ryan's face. Ryan's lip squirted blood the whole inning.
Another freak of nature was Herschel Walker, the only player Gil Brandt ever scouted that he felt could have gone straight from high school to the NFL and survive.
i remember watching Walker in the sprints when he was at Georgia. THis massive human blowing by guys have his size.
Those southern Schools seem to develope beasts
'Australian writer and scientist Charles Davis'
He's not biased is he? Bradman only toured two countries. His toughest test came during the Boldyline series where he average around 55. I would've loved to have seen him face the Windies pace quartet of the late 70's - early 80's. My guess is that is that he'd have struggled to average anywhere near 50 against them.
And he wasn't a proper athlete. Fast bowlers are but batsmen aren't.
That's just it, we don't know. Although, I doubt potent steroids are used mainly because they put on muscle mass, but nandrolone has been used by players in the past(mainly to aid recovery). I don't think any sport is clean.
tbh i think hgh would be used in the epl. it allows the muscle to respond more quickly like when were young. I wish sometimes giggsy would use it so we could see the old ryan back runnning down the wing
I'm sure neither steroids nor hgh are used in football
LMAO...clueless.
A few watch it around the world but its not a major sport by any means. Americans are so far up their own asses they can't see the wood for the trees.
Take the Super Bowl for instance: they say its watched by 500 million people BUT what they actually mean is 500 million have the ability to watch it live. The true viewing figures for the SB are around 90-92 million, with about 98% of those viewers watching in America. So less than two million people outside the US watch the SB live.
Basically outside the US no one cares about or watches US sports. Sure you will get a few people talking about it on a sports message board but don't mistake that for widespread interest.
The NFL is largely confined to fans within the US borders and a few Canadians and Mexicans, etc. But the NBA has a huge international following. So does MLB in the Far East, the Caribbean Islands and Central America. I can see you're just another anti-US bandwaggoner so don't let facts get in your way.
The NFL is largely confined to fans within the US borders and a few Canadians and Mexicans, etc. But the NBA has a huge international following. So does MLB in the Far East, the Caribbean Islands and Central America. I can see you're just another anti-US bandwaggoner so don't let facts get in your way.
Thanks Marcello...
That's easily the stupidest thing I've seen you post
Actually he's mostly correct on the SB viewership thing. It's grossly inflated by the NFL front office. I think it's somewhere around 110-130m worldwide watch the game and most of that is in North America. That 500m-1b is a "potential audience."
I reckon around half of Americans watch it, 130-150 mil. Yeah there is no doubt the numbers are inflated but I still think his number was way low.
So you are saying every male (approx) in America watches it, which is just not true. It can't be mathematically true, no matter where you get your figures from.
Women?
Only some watch it, most are walking about malls and shopping centers during the game. Even out of the measly few that watch it, 1% know the players.
Your figure is vastly inflated
90 mil seems right and I would use it as the upper limit
Yeah since that matters
Your half the country figure is bullshit statistical improbability, deal with it
Oh I think I am gonna go cry now, I bet you anything more than 90 million people watch the SuperBowl, I have no doubt about it at all. Just because people might not be actively watching it, if they watch it for ten seconds they watched it.
If I wasn't so lazy, I would bust out the census statistics and prove how it's very improbably that half the country is watching it, but I spend too much time on here as it is
That's one of the worst arguments I have read on this site.
So what do you have to do to consider watching it, watch every second of the pregame game and postgame. If you watch a shit movie and turn it off after 30 minutes, you still said you watched it
2004 SB had 95 million viewers. I think the one after that was 90-92 million. It obviously fluctuates around but generally speaking its in the 90-95 million ballpark.
I doubt those figures are accurate
My answer to that would be what the feck are you on a MANCHESTER United forum for? "manufanatic", give me a fecking break.
Me? Well both my parents are Mancunian, I lived there for 35 years, I am related to a current United player, I attended every home game from the mid 70s to early 90s, and every away game from 1980-85. And I still have four season tickets even though I haven't been to Manchester for seven years.
Seriously if I pulled this shit about soccer of an NFL site they would rip me to bits.
AND BTW , I am now an American for my sins.
From Wiki:
By any measure, the Super Bowl is the most watched television program of the year in the U.S.[citation needed] The game tends to have high Nielsen television ratings which usually come in around a 40 rating and 60 share (i.e., on average, 40 percent of all U.S. households, and 60 percent of all homes tuned into television during the game). This means that on average, 80 to 90 million Americans are tuned into the Super Bowl at any given moment. It is also estimated that 130-140 million tune into some part of the game.[5] NFL press releases have stated that recent Super Bowls have been available to potential audiences of approximately one billion worldwide, although independent studies suggest that the average global viewership is just over 100 million – the vast majority of whom are U.S. viewers.[6]
The highest-rated game according to Nielsen was Super Bowl XVI in 1982, which was watched in 49.1 percent of households (73 share) or 40,020,000 households at the time. Super Bowl XVI is #4 on Nielsen's list of top-rated programs of all time, and 3 other Super Bowls (XII, XVII, and XX) made the top 10.[7] Super Bowl XLII in 2008 holds the record for total U.S. viewership, attracting an average audience of 97.5 million and ranking second only to the final episode of M*A*S*H in 1983. Although the proliferation of cable and satellite television has undercut broadcast ratings somewhat in recent years, the game is still sufficiently popular that a number of networks actually schedule original programming, such as independently produced halftime entertainment, during the game, simply to take advantage of a large audience already in front of the television. Most networks air reruns that evening, a sign of acknowledgement that their ratings will be dwarfed by the Super Bowl so they shouldn't waste a potentially highly rated new episode on that night.
Following Apple Computer's 1984 commercial introducing the Macintosh computer, directed by Ridley Scott, the broadcast of the Super Bowl became the premier showcase for high concept or simply extravagantly expensive commercials.[citation needed] Famous commercial campaigns include the Budweiser "Bud Bowl" campaign, and the 1999 and 2000 dot-com ads. Prices have increased each year, with reports citing a record US$2.7 million for a 30 second spot during Super Bowl XLII in 2008. A segment of the audience tunes in to the Super Bowl solely to watch the creative commercials.
According to BBM Canada, the 2008 game was viewed in Canada on CTV by 4.234 million people and was the most watched show of the week by far
Now fecking shut up about it.....
By any measure, the Super Bowl is the most watched television program of the year in the U.S.[citation needed] The game tends to have high Nielsen television ratings which usually come in around a 40 rating and 60 share (i.e., on average, 40 percent of all U.S. households, and 60 percent of all homes tuned into television during the game). This means that on average, 80 to 90 million Americans are tuned into the Super Bowl at any given moment. It is also estimated that 130-140 million tune into some part of the game.[5] NFL press releases have stated that recent Super Bowls have been available to potential audiences of approximately one billion worldwide, although independent studies suggest that the average global viewership is just over 100 million – the vast majority of whom are U.S. viewers.[6]
The highest-rated game according to Nielsen was Super Bowl XVI in 1982, which was watched in 49.1 percent of households (73 share) or 40,020,000 households at the time. Super Bowl XVI is #4 on Nielsen's list of top-rated programs of all time, and 3 other Super Bowls (XII, XVII, and XX) made the top 10.[7] Super Bowl XLII in 2008 holds the record for total U.S. viewership, attracting an average audience of 97.5 million and ranking second only to the final episode of M*A*S*H in 1983. Although the proliferation of cable and satellite television has undercut broadcast ratings somewhat in recent years, the game is still sufficiently popular that a number of networks actually schedule original programming, such as independently produced halftime entertainment, during the game, simply to take advantage of a large audience already in front of the television. Most networks air reruns that evening, a sign of acknowledgement that their ratings will be dwarfed by the Super Bowl so they shouldn't waste a potentially highly rated new episode on that night.
Following Apple Computer's 1984 commercial introducing the Macintosh computer, directed by Ridley Scott, the broadcast of the Super Bowl became the premier showcase for high concept or simply extravagantly expensive commercials.[citation needed] Famous commercial campaigns include the Budweiser "Bud Bowl" campaign, and the 1999 and 2000 dot-com ads. Prices have increased each year, with reports citing a record US$2.7 million for a 30 second spot during Super Bowl XLII in 2008. A segment of the audience tunes in to the Super Bowl solely to watch the creative commercials.
According to BBM Canada, the 2008 game was viewed in Canada on CTV by 4.234 million people and was the most watched show of the week by far
Now fecking shut up about it.....
I suggest you do a little googling and enlighten yourself.
It says that 130-140 million people tune in and watch the game, thus I am right
It says that 130-140 million people tune in and watch the game, thus I am right
That isn't the official viewing numbers, and it does fluctuate depending on the teams. And they add the delayed viewing number in. I know one year recently they did a full breakdown and well under two million outside the US watched the game live. Which takes us back to the original argument, no one outside the US gives a feck about US sports, just like Americans don't care for foreign sports.
A thread about the greatest athlete, yet why are the majority of the contenders discussed from American sports.
Sorry but no American sport can even be considered to have produced the greatest ever athlete, solely for the fact that none of their sports are contested on a global scale.
I see no one has mention Sugar Ray Robinson, not sure if there will be agreement on who is the greatest ever athlete, but for me he certainly would be the right up there.
He had a career spanning over 25 years, a record of 173(W)-19(L)-6(D)-2(NC) (108 KOs) from 202 fights and was never knocked out. True legend in every sense of the word.
As for the present day Roman Sebrle deserves a mention.
Sorry but no American sport can even be considered to have produced the greatest ever athlete, solely for the fact that none of their sports are contested on a global scale.
I see no one has mention Sugar Ray Robinson, not sure if there will be agreement on who is the greatest ever athlete, but for me he certainly would be the right up there.
He had a career spanning over 25 years, a record of 173(W)-19(L)-6(D)-2(NC) (108 KOs) from 202 fights and was never knocked out. True legend in every sense of the word.
As for the present day Roman Sebrle deserves a mention.
My answer to that would be what the feck are you on a MANCHESTER United forum for? "manufanatic", give me a fecking break.
Me? Well both my parents are Mancunian, I lived there for 35 years, I am related to a current United player, I attended every home game from the mid 70s to early 90s, and every away game from 1980-85. And I still have four season tickets even though I haven't been to Manchester for seven years.
Seriously if I pulled this shit about soccer of an NFL site they would rip me to bits.
AND BTW , I am now an American for my sins.
Oh so now your going to get personal? If you want to discuss this further contact me via the PM route otherwise lets stick to the topic of this specific thread.
Oh and BTW my boys were born in Cambridge England So again you dont know who the feck i am
The NBA is an American sport loved around the world
http://www.nba.com/global/allstar2008_broadcast_tv.html
Its clear the game has become even more popular world wide due to the influx of international players but the fact remains its a sport from the US that apparently the rest of the world truly does give a feck about
Who cares about the official numbers the NFl says 1 billion you say 90 mil, I say 130-150 mil and I am right
I think Americans and the American media grossly over estimate the importance of their sports around the world. In all my years in the UK I never saw one minute of NBA coverage, and I don't know anyone over there that watches the NBA now. Sure a few people will watch it on a cable/satellite channel but it is a minor minority sport.
If the NBA was so significant around the world the NBA finals might get more than 25 million viewers.
Seems like you actually overrate the UK's importance worldwide just because some islands that are smaller than Colorado don't liek the NBA means feck all really