That doesn`t make any sense, because the sport he played was as big then as it is now. In fact, it was harder for players like Pele in that era because they weren`t protected as much by the referees as today`s stars are.
The Greatest Athlete Ever.
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That doesn`t make any sense, because the sport he played was as big then as it is now. In fact, it was harder for players like Pele in that era because they weren`t protected as much by the referees as today`s stars are.
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Then the Don would have to be considered one of the greatest sports persons, to bat the way he did without the technology today's bats and pads have.
They could be classed as two different things i think
Polydamas won the 93rd Olympics.
Fought 3 best Persian wrestlers at the same time, killed two, third one ran away. Also killed a lion barehanded.
Next to this man, Phelps is a mouse
Fought 3 best Persian wrestlers at the same time, killed two, third one ran away. Also killed a lion barehanded.
Next to this man, Phelps is a mouse
Am I wrong here or was'nt Armstrong involved in a drugs scandal at some point?
Not the greatest follower of the Tde France so I could be way off
Not the greatest follower of the Tde France so I could be way off
Only rumours I think, nothing pinned on him.
It seems pretty clear that he was taking EPO before they had a test to detect it
Polydamas won the 93rd Olympics.
Fought 3 best Persian wrestlers at the same time, killed two, third one ran away. Also killed a lion barehanded.
Next to this man, Phelps is a mouse
You need more athletic ability in 1 round of boxing than you'll need in one whole season of baseball or american football. Again all the people you mention are jack of all trades who played sports which frankly no one outside the US cared about especially at that time. Lacrosse, FFS? And duriing that era it was much easier to excel in different sports because sport simply wasn't that big a deal which is why you also got people in the UK playing professional football and cricket. Again it all comes down to the definition of athlete. Maradona was a great footballer but not a great athlete.
tiger woods because he's barely even gotten started.
Winfield was drafted for the NHL?
I sparred with a mate of mine for laugh. . .and I can tell you it's the toughest thing I've ever done. Boxers have to be uber fit.
I don't think so. It's strange how people exonerate Indurain yet think Armstrong used EPO. Both rode different styles, but were aggressively dominant in the same way. It's the degree of dominance that suggests possible drug use, so Indurain should be on the hook too, if Armstrong is.
The answer lies in physical attributes. Indurain had the highest lung capacity of his time, but Armstrong had a perfect climber's build. If Armstrong used, so did Indurain. I don't believe either did though - they were superb athletes physically as well as mentally. And it's the mental bit that counts in the Tour.
The fittest athletes are actually Formula One drivers believe it or not.
They are not athletes though. Formula One is played by Engineers.
Lance Armstrong needs a team of engineers as well. The fact remains in studies the fittest, strength and agility levels were extremely high for F1 drivers.
I will try a find the report on it.
MLB, ABA, NBA and NFL.
You obviously haven't a clue about american football if you think it takes more athletic ability to box one round than play a game of gridiron football. Boxing is definitely a tough sport. Something I would never want to take part in due to the potential post-career issues that can arise. I'd say mixed martial arts is tougher than boxing.
You have to be as fit as a fiddle even just to drive a f1 car at half it's capacity.
Agreed. Those Gridiron guys are just phenomenal athletes.
Oh, and my vote would probably go to Ali, followed closely by Michael Jordan.
You mean greatest in recent history?
Daley Thompson
It's not a projection from how he performed - it's based on what they found in the little bottles
I agree. Armstrong got out before the hammer fell and it did fall on every top cyclist from his mini era.
So for that reason I don't really care. Everyone he was competing against and had a legit chance at beating him got caught or implicated in the next two years.
Cycling is better when the riders are saucing something ;p
Most amazing race I've ever seen was Floyd Landis on his solo ride that won him the tour two years ago I believe it was.
Well they go faster - but then no one gives a feck who wins and they kill the sport.
Babe Ruth has to be considered. Before he became the games greatest hitter he was one of its most dominate pitchers.
If its on pure athletics certainly Dave winfield, Jim Brown, thorpe and Possiby Bob Mathias.
As much as l used lance's battle against cancer as my own motivation for my battle its clear to me that he doped...
If its on pure athletics certainly Dave winfield, Jim Brown, thorpe and Possiby Bob Mathias.
As much as l used lance's battle against cancer as my own motivation for my battle its clear to me that he doped...
In 2003, Dr. Wade Exum, the United States Olympic Committee's director of drug control administration from 1991 to 2000, gave copies of documents to Sports Illustrated which revealed that some 100 American athletes who failed drug tests and should have been prevented from competing in the Olympics were nevertheless cleared to compete. Among those athletes was Carl Lewis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Lewis
He was over weight much of his career. Lets face it baseball is hardly a sport that demand great athleticism, many players are chubby. They have a skill, kind of like cricketers but no way are any of them even in the discussion for greatest athlete ever, not even close IMO.
I agree. unreal. and a total drunk who didnt train. one of the best pitchers ever and the best power hitter ever. The greatest baseball player of all time hands down
ffs....well if we are having baseball bums, I nominate Ian Botham.
Ski-ers I think you`ll find.
Williams>Cobb>Ruth
I suspect the only thing established by this thread is the impossibility of naming a "greatest athlete" because of the different demands, physically and mentally, of different sports, the time when the athletes competed and the opposition faced, but primarily the prejudices and biases of the posters as to the sports, eras, and athletes they consider the most significant.
Well put Bob.
Ryan Giggs.
Ryan Giggs.
Boxers are athletes, whoever thinks otherwise has never seen these cnuts train or participated in the sport themselves. Endurance, power, speed. . . the training is mental enough, but 12 rounds in the ring is hell.
Can't argue with that. They are in phenomenal shape. I always liked Lennox Lewis, in and out of the ring.
Exactly. I mentioned earlier in the thread that I sparred a round with a mate. I couldn't believe how tough it was was. I'm pretty fit and healthy, but I struggled. So basically, you have to be in phenomenal shape. . .nevermind have the actual skills to preform in the ring.
And Lewis was good in the gym, but Tyson was on a different planet. . . Not seen anyone better on the speedball. . .and he's as good as anyone you'll see on the speedropes.