The Game

I'm going to have to get back to you on this one nigga...I've got to, er, cook dinner for my missus...

To be honest, at this stage I'd be very surprised if this beef between us didn't end up in some kind of drive-by shooting
 
Plechazunga said:
I'm going to have to get back to you on this one nigga...I've got to, er, cook dinner for my missus...

To be honest, at this stage I'd be very surprised if this beef between us didn't end up in some kind of drive-by shooting
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Thats true, but honestly if your going for lyrics...Cube cant touch any of those artists I mentioned above, game obviously excluded.
 
Hectic said:
Which is also why Game made sure his second album had not a single Dre production on there....
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Made sure?? He would have sucked dick to get some dre beats. dre didn't give him anything because of the situation with 50.

Ice cube is one of the best writers and stroyteller in rap, right up there with Tupac. Cube is the godfather of west coast rap. not Dre( who basically only makes beats and raps ghostwritten shit) or Eazy( who also rapped stuff Cube wrote and had a unique flow.)

Lyrically Game is nothing special. I can name off the top of my head 20 rappers who are better lyrically than game.
 
I think it's not all about lyrics. Hip-hop and rap in general is about the whole package. I think The Game was lyrically weak on The Documentary but the beats made up for it. Additionally, most rap records these days are far from solo efforts, they're collaborations involving guest appearances that take the pressure off. It's easy to write one verse to a hit song and have other rappers come in with verses of their own. There are a lot of elements to the music that make it appealing, I agree with you that Guru is a wicked lyricist and his flow is fantastic but the Gangstarr beats never really did it for me.
 
Desert Eagle said:
Made sure?? He would have sucked dick to get some dre beats. dre didn't give him anything because of the situation with 50.

Ice cube is one of the best writers and stroyteller in rap, right up there with Tupac. Cube is the godfather of west coast rap. not Dre( who basically only makes beats and raps ghostwritten shit) or Eazy( who also rapped stuff Cube wrote and had a unique flow.)

Lyrically Game is nothing special. I can name off the top of my head 20 rappers who are better lyrically than game.
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As I can name about 20 rappers better then Cube off the top of mine. And no, Game made a choice not to include Dre in his second album as he wanted to mirror what Eazy E did. He also confirms that he will be working with Dre for his next production. The situation with 50 is nothing to do with Dre as Dre has already said, which is why ever since Game split from G-Unit Dre has still been making his beats.

The Game is quite a good artist, lyrically he is good when he wants to be (not club shit), obviously there are much better artists them him, lyrically there are many artists better then him but that was not my point, all I was saying hes not as bad as Davo was making out.
 
Dr. Dwayne said:
I think it's not all about lyrics. Hip-hop and rap in general is about the whole package. I think The Game was lyrically weak on The Documentary but the beats made up for it. Additionally, most rap records these days are far from solo efforts, they're collaborations involving guest appearances that take the pressure off. It's easy to write one verse to a hit song and have other rappers come in with verses of their own. There are a lot of elements to the music that make it appealing, I agree with you that Guru is a wicked lyricist and his flow is fantastic but the Gangstarr beats never really did it for me.
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I think it was hit and miss, there are some classic Gangstarr tracks but alot just do not work, Guru and Premier alone are amazing as well. Im more into my underground though, this mainstream hip-hop is quite depressing.
 
Hectic said:
As I can name about 20 rappers better then Cube off the top of mine. And no, Game made a choice not to include Dre in his second album as he wanted to mirror what Eazy E did. He also confirms that he will be working with Dre for his next production. The situation with 50 is nothing to do with Dre as Dre has already said, which is why ever since Game split from G-Unit Dre has still been making his beats.

The Game is quite a good artist, lyrically he is good when he wants to be (not club shit), obviously there are much better artists them him, lyrically there are many artists better then him but that was not my point, all I was saying hes not as bad as Davo was making out.
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Can you name 20 rappers better at gangsta rap than Cube?? He pioneered the movement.

Game wanted Dre on his Album. He went so far as to say he definitely had a song with Dre then went back on that a month before release. Henamed his album Doctor's Advocate sothat people would associate him with Dre.

What did Eazy do that game is trying to emulate?? The Eazy E album was filled with stuff from Dre and Cube and was what ultimately led to the break up of NWA. Because EZ wantedto keepall the cash saying it was a solo project when in fact it was far from that.

What beats have Dre been making for Game recently??

Game isa good artist but nowhere on the level of Ice Cube.
 
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Desert Eagle said:
Can you name 20 rappers better at gangsta rap than Cube?? He pioneered the movement.

Game wanted Dre on his Album. He went so far as to say he definitely had a song with Dre then went back on that a month before release. Henamed his album Doctor's Advocate sothat people would associate him with Dre.

What did Eazy do that game is trying to emulate?? The Eazy E album was filled with stuff from Dre and Cube and was what ultimately led to the break up of NWA. Because EZ wantedto keepall the cash saying it was a solo project when in fact it was far from that.

What beats have Dre been making for Game recently??

Game isa good artist but nowhere on the level of Ice Cube.
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Eazy E was filled with tunes from Dre, then on his album 187 he gunned Dre the whole time, he basically wanted to prove he could be a success without the help of Dre's beats. Game in all of his interviews has said that he wanted to replicate what his idol did and show that he can have a hit album without the need of Dre, and also said he will be producing for him in the future and there was no problem between them. The title 'The Doctor's Advocate' was the original title, at one point it was going to be changed to 'The Devils Advocate' as Nu Jerzey Devil was meant to produce the whole album but that was scrapped, it was not last minute.

I never said I could name 20 rappers better then Cube at Gangsta Rap, my point about Cube was that he was not as lyrically good as Plech described him and I said there were far better lyricists then Cube. Take note I never once said there were better gangsta rappers, I was merely showing that I disagreed with Plech that he was the greatest lyrically and I can easily name 20 rappers lyrically better then Cube.
 
I agree Cube is not the greatest lyrically. The greatest story teller,flow, writer maybe but definitely not the greatest lyrically.

About the 187 album i featured heavy production from Dj Yella who was part of N.W.A. and EZ maintained the G-funk sound made popular by NWA. It wasn't really a that much of a branching out at all.
 
Desert Eagle said:
I agree Cube is not the greatest lyrically. The greatest story teller,flow, writer maybe but definitely not the greatest lyrically.

About the 187 album i featured heavy production from Dj Yella who was part of N.W.A. and EZ maintained the G-funk sound made popular by NWA. It wasn't really a that much of a branching out at all.
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My point being The 187 album had no Dre tracks and was a hit without him. Game wanted to replicate that and he did. Im not saying whether it branched out but that was Games aim, he wanted an album to be a hit without Dre and it will be. This was taken from an interview he did the other day

The Game: I spoke to Dre last week, man. He told me he loved what I'm out here doing and congratulations on a classic album. I did it again, but this time I can say that I didn't have [Dre and 50 Cent] helping, which is what he wanted me to do. That's why there were no Dre tracks on this album, because if I was only going to use one Dre track or maybe two, then why not just use none and have the praise for creating a classic without any major help.
 
Desert Eagle said:
I agree Cube is not the greatest lyrically. The greatest story teller,flow, writer maybe but definitely not the greatest lyrically.
I can agree with that, although I might have Immortal Technique and Nas as a rival for greatest story teller.
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I would say Immortal Tech has the most profound and relevant lyrics.
Best story teller is definitely Tupac. Nas is lyrically awesome.

Well Game could have just made it up. From what I've heard Dre hasn't made a public remark about Game since the break from G-unit. and he definitely hasn't made beats for him.
 
Oh and how can it be a classic album when it hasn't even been released yet???
 
Desert Eagle said:
I would say Immortal Tech has the most profound and relevant lyrics.
Best story teller is definitely Tupac. Nas is lyrically awesome.

Well Game could have just made it up. From what I've heard Dre hasn't made a public remark about Game since the break from G-unit. and he definitely hasn't made beats for him.
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I very much doubt Game would go on record and say that quote about 'Dre' respecting him, thats a interview and if Dre was to dismiss this how embarrasing would that look. No offence meant but I would much rather believe Game on this matter then what you saying otherwise. Its a lot more likely what he is saying is true, it would be career suicide to say something as stupid as that if it wasn't true.
 
Desert Eagle said:
Oh and how can it be a classic album when it hasn't even been released yet???
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Im fairly certain Dre has already heard it, seen as I have a retail version on my Ipod....Dre would of listened to the album ages before I did, and there are already music reviews on it.
 
Hectic said:
The Game is excellent lyrically though. Check out his old mixtapes and his song 'dreams' for example. His new album is quite good although the production could be better.
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:lol: . Sonically the album is a classic. Clown.
 
Davo said:
Not the film with the crap ending, or another word for prostitution, but the shit rapper.

Has anyone seen his recent video? I has the misfortune to see it earlier, he takes himself more seriously than anyone else in the world...and has a tattoo of a tear coming from his eye.

As everyone knows, men don't cry, so The Game is basically boasting about his homosexuality by this very act.

"You got beef with Dre, you got beef with me" - oh no, that's terrifying...beef with some sort of rapping crybaby. Give over you big fanny
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What even funnier is someone on an internet forum posting that a known blood is a cry baby and a big fanny. You wouldn't say it if he was anywhere near you.
 
brewlio said:
The tear is probably a modern day version of the 'borstal spot'. The Game is a great big gay, he is in fact 50's butt-plug.
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If you see a tear on the face it either marks youve murdered someone or lost someone close to you. Depend where your from.
 
Plechazunga said:
The Game's fecking shite

His delivery - or "flow", as we gangstas designate it - has no force, and his lyrics are shite.

He is good at freestyling it's true, but who cares about that?
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Load of bollocks.
 
RedCanadian said:
50 Cent will end up shooting him in a drive-by, FACT!
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Because multi - millionaire pop stars, with no gang affiliation are always doing drive bys. It's why nobody fecks with westlife and take that.
 
Plechazunga said:
Well, I think he's fecking shite. His voice has no power...

Compare him to rapper with a genuinely great voice, like Ice Cube...Game sounds like the old man down the pub who's had his larynx removed.
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Like you said thats just your opinion. The general opinion on the games voive tends to be that it's something he has over most rappers.
 
Plechazunga said:
I don't see how you can possibly say Game is better - or close to - Ice Cube lyrically. Game is an average lyricist - even people who love his music usually admit that. Ice Cube is one of the greatest (and most underrated) rappers (flow, presence, lyrics) ever. Saying they are different "types" of rapper is meaningless...Ice Cube was instrumental in inventing West Coast rap. He went from gangsta stuff on NWA to political stuff on Amerika's Most Wanted back to Gangsta stuff with Westside Connection to a mix of stuff afterwards, and he has released an album this year which is absolutely brilliant. Game came through as a "gangsta" rapper from Compton whose hero was Eazy fecking E! He wanted to branch out and wanted to be a lyricist - how is he a different type of rapper to Ice Cube? Ice Cube has at least 3 classic solo albums plus unbelievable group albums with NWA and Westside Connection - all these albums stood out at a time when rap was great. Game is failing to stand out at at a time rap music is rubbish.

As a rapper his flow is average and lyrically he is ordinary...his first album was carried by incredible production. In fairness, since then he has improved with every mixtape and feature he's done (he may get a bit outshone by his own artists on BWS Volume 1 but that is one of the best mixtapes to come out this year). He's had a pop at most of his old group and come out on top, and his new album is meant to be very good...but to compare him to the best is crazy.

I feel about 14...
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A lot of that's true except the bit about Cube being the best rapper. And if you think cube has 3 classics then your using the term way to loosely.
 
ciderman9000000 said:
lol... u lot take hipetty-hop way too seriously.
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How come? Its just people giving opinions just like they would if discussing football.
 
Matrix said:
How come? Its just people giving opinions just like they would if discussing football.
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I got no beef with you homeboy, why you trippin'? Man, that shit's wack!

Youngie said:
he he he.....I just love listening to middle class white boys arguing over the merits of their particular fav gangsta rappers....
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Too right!
 
Plechazunga said:
Cuz after I got 'em it was over
Now niggaz get lucky like a four-leaf clover
On daddy's little girl
She keeps nuts in her mouth like the bitch was a squirrel

That's up there with fecking anything Irving Berlin ever wrote
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You can't quote something like that as great lyricism because it makes no sense just as 4 lines. you could probably get away with punch lines, or things that can be used as general sayings.
 
Youngie said:
he he he.....I just love listening to middle class white boys arguing over the merits of their particular fav gangsta rappers....
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I'm a white MAN, I'll have you know.

And gangsta rap is a lie...even if I do like it.

rant over.
 
Matrix game is not a Blood. His cousin is. Game didn't grow up on the west side, he went to high school in the mid-west
 
Desert Eagle said:
Made sure?? He would have sucked dick to get some dre beats. dre didn't give him anything because of the situation with 50.

Ice cube is one of the best writers and stroyteller in rap, right up there with Tupac. Cube is the godfather of west coast rap. not Dre( who basically only makes beats and raps ghostwritten shit) or Eazy( who also rapped stuff Cube wrote and had a unique flow.)

Lyrically Game is nothing special. I can name off the top of my head 20 rappers who are better lyrically than game.
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He did 6 Dre tracks but they were all shelved because he wanted to go it on his own.
 
Youngie said:
he he he.....I just love listening to middle class white boys arguing over the merits of their particular fav gangsta rappers....
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im not a middle class white boy...
 
Desert Eagle said:
Matrix game is not a Blood. His cousin is. Game didn't grow up on the west side, he went to high school in the mid-west
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He calls himself a 'Blood' on the new album.
 
Niggas, why you's all talkin' that trash? Alls'yall know that hippety-hop is for dem mutha-feckin' kids man! wees 'sposed to be a-dults homeboy. Why you trippin'?
 
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