+1feck off
Not just that, the glazers don’t give a flying f**k what the fans think.
You have to have a low IQ to think that United fans have been anyway responsible for anything relating to the United managers.
This.It’s called supporting your team god forbid we ever get to that stupid waving of the white handkerchiefs
It’s called supporting your team god forbid we ever get to that stupid waving of the white handkerchiefs
I think the fans are letting the players and manager off the hook far too easily.
It's Manchester United and we don't boo players, but this lot is a bad joke, my daughter's under 7 team has more passion and hunger than these p****
And Ten Hag should be informed that he's horribly out of his depth. If the owners/ directors can't do it, it's up to the fans to let him know imo.
The biggest club in the world with twice as many European Cups as the next team? Yes, God forbid we aspire to be more like them.It’s called supporting your team god forbid we ever get to that stupid waving of the white handkerchiefs
The worst fan excuse is "It's not the managers fault, these group of players are 6th position quality at best"
I've seen this nonsense excuse rolled out for Ole and ETH now. In both cases, these managers finished in the top 4 in the previous season.
Yeah we'd prefer to sit on our high horses sucking ourselves off for being better fans than everyone elseIt’s called supporting your team god forbid we ever get to that stupid waving of the white handkerchiefs
+1 - some of our fans are so entitledIt’s called supporting your team god forbid we ever get to that stupid waving of the white handkerchiefs
I think the fans are letting the players and manager off the hook far too easily.
It's Manchester United and we don't boo players, but this lot is a bad joke, my daughter's under 7 team has more passion and hunger than these p****
And Ten Hag should be informed that he's horribly out of his depth. If the owners/ directors can't do it, it's up to the fans to let him know imo.
Ooh you're hardI called Rashford a lazy nobhead at Wembley
+1 - some of our fans are so entitled
I definitely wouldn't want to be a fan of a club that has standards and wins the Champions League every other season. That sounds terrible.It’s called supporting your team god forbid we ever get to that stupid waving of the white handkerchiefs
It feels odd that this even needs explaining to people. People on here seem to think that if we had booed our players after every bad performance since Fergie retired then we would have a couple more league titles and Champions League trophies to show for it. The lack of ambition comes from the parasitical owners and filters down. The fans really don't have that much of an influence on setting standards unfortunately.What are fans supposed to do differently that would still be supporting the team, and how would it help?
We’re not gonna make McTominay a good midfielder or fix Rashfords seeming mental difficulties by booing them.
The erosion of the standards starts with the ownership.
That 4th place could have been overachieving from our team and/or other teams underachieving (Liverpool last year). Other teams improving (Spurs, Villa) or what not. Just claiming this squad isnt 6th plac quality because they did finish higher last year is lazy.
How many of our players would be starters for Spurs, Liverpool and Aston Villa? Really not as much as you would think. This is a squad that would fight for place 3 till 6 and when important players are injured the quality of the squad becomes even less.
And why is that?What a patheticly ridiculous take
How on earth did it take you this long to figure that outThis thread is proof a good number of our fans have straight up lost the plot and live in utter delusion.
Some of them clearly don't follow all our games, even if they've been supporting the club a long time.This thread is proof a good number of our fans have straight up lost the plot and live in utter delusion.
goodness me - that’s a silly example to compare to considering how successful that club is.It’s called supporting your team god forbid we ever get to that stupid waving of the white handkerchiefs
And why is that?
It is actually crazy to me that a certain selection of fans believe that we're entitled for wanting better. We're in 7th place. Probably should be lower based on our actual performance levels. Only 47 goals scored in 32 games. Everybody above us has scored 20+ more. Out of the CL in the group stage. Not even just that, but finishing last in a group that should have been an easy 2nd place finish. Out of the EFL in the 3rd round.It perfectly encapsulates this threads argument.
The fan base is "so entitled" so we shouldn't complain and be happy with our lot? Which leads to lower standards from the fans, to a point where some are still saying that our worst manager post Fergie should be give more time??
It's so annoying when we just get told we've been "spoiled" and should be "happy with where we're at".
No we shouldn't. We should be demanding more!
Yes, our fans are very passive. It’s a quality that we have a supportive fan base that isn’t completely knee jerk - at least in the stadium - but there’s also an acceptance of utter mediocrity that creates an environment that doesn’t demand excellence. There’s no cauldron of pressure to succeed here, like there are at some top clubs. That’s not even debatable. Some see it as a quality, others as a deficiency. That part can be debated all day, but what is true is that players and managers have been supported well by match going fans, long past their poor performances deserved it. That has its own rewards and curses.
In Fergie’s time, the insistence on excellence in everything, came from within the management structure. Next season it’s going to have to come from the new technical and executive structure. Wherever it comes from, it needs to come from somewhere. You can’t have a passive and supportive fan base, and a passive and supportive management structure. Somebody needs to take accountability for exacting the highest of standards.
Personally, I’ve always liked having a supportive fan base, but once we had endless shite on the field and endless shite in the dugout and in the executive suite, it ceased to work as a benefit for us.
I will say that I can’t abide this repetitive insistence every year of needing 7, 8, 9 etc new players. It’s just a way of shifting the blame for failure onto whoever fits that person’s personal agenda. The failure is collective and systemic, and to change that, you need reform at the very top. Specifically, a top class coach, and a focus, intelligent and driven football structure. With that in place, two to four astute signings and getting the best out of what we already have, should be more than enough to have us competing again. Any structure or coach who can’t accomplish that, under those parameters, has no business being here. There are teams competing with much lesser squads than the one we have. A great coach should always be able to make a team much greater than the sum of its parts, and the response to failure can’t always be that we need to replace all the players. That’s just lazy bollocks.
A lot of todays fans are football manager addicts who think things are easily resolved by spending millions in one windowThis thread is proof a good number of our fans have straight up lost the plot and live in utter delusion.
Yeah but why don't we just sign Mbappe, Bellingham and Palmer with the funds raised from selling McT, Maguire and Lindelof?A lot of todays fans are football manager addicts who think things are easily resolved by spending millions in one window
Yeah but why don't we just sign Mbappe, Bellingham and Palmer with the funds raised from selling McT, Maguire and Lindelof?
Why stop there? We could sell Donny and bring in whatever the flavour of the month is for 100mYeah but why don't we just sign Mbappe, Bellingham and Palmer with the funds raised from selling McT, Maguire and Lindelof?