Horner sounds like he is trying to make more of the Hamiltion maybe touch.
The F1 Thread 2010 Season
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Horner doesn't seem overly happy for a boss that's just won the teams home GP.
All seems pretty poisonous in that team at the moment
Ah well, just adds that extra layer of entertainment for us I guess!
Would you be if you were facing those questions and had to go back and deal with Vettel v Webber?!
Definitely, Horner needs to work on his man management though; seems he's been reading Ron Dennis' guide to dividing a team
He did not did he , even though Webber won .
For me Hamilton and Button had the better race ,after the Q,s yesterday when Button's car was a shed
Looks like this could boil over worse than McLaren 07, I love it! Red Bull really should take the WDC & WCC based on pure pace today, but ofcourse it doesn't work like that.
Definitely, Horner needs to work on his man management though; seems he's been reading Ron Dennis' guide to dividing a team
I don't think Alonso needs much dividing from his team mate in fairness
Poor little soul, the whole world is against him. Always
If i'm honest, he's the reason as to why there's a issue between the pair. He fuels the fire more than anyone.
For sure, his own fault, still not something to look forward to though!
Pretty conclusive footage there that the puncture was caused by Hamiltons wing, the cameras really are fantastic.
Interesting there that the Macca worked well when heavy, must be having some rear downforce issues.
That's exactly how I saw it. His supreme arrogance is a blessing and a curse in modern F1.
if alonso have given the place back to kubica, he won't have to serve his drive through, its all his fault....
Vettel will be fuming at Webber for forcing him wide at the start of the race .
Vettel will be fuming at Webber for forcing him wide at the start of the race .
Alonso too angry to talk to the media
Be was asked if he thought he and Webber gave each other enough room and he said "is that question serious", then went on to say that Mark got a better start and there was little he could do.
Jordon goes from one minute saying they are not there to question the stewards decisions to pushing the Ferrari press dude (can't remember his name) to try and get him to bad mouth the stewards. Cock.
It is hard to believe at times Jordan once ran a team. Rumours Webber just said he wouldnt have signed a new contract if he knew he was the number 2.
Button seems like a right laugh, bet going for a beer with him, DC and Barrichello would be brilliant!hypocrite lol
That did look like a cold hand shake there between Vettel and Webber.
Webber seemed less than keen to accept Vettels hand there then
Great stuff singing Wonderwall 
Bit of a back peddle from Webber there, more than likely team ordered!
I can't believe I'm really saying this but I do feel extremely sorry for Alonso. Imagine being in his shoes now, I'd want to smash things extremely hard!
The fact is, he pits twice and has a drive through and still finishes ahead of his team-mate, including setting by far the fastest lap on the last lap of the race.
The Ferrari is a fundamentally fast car, and though this season they have only had themselves to blame as well as the bad luck, today was pretty much all down to the bad luck save Fernando losing three places at the start (which he pretty much recovered until the drive through).
The fact is, he pits twice and has a drive through and still finishes ahead of his team-mate, including setting by far the fastest lap on the last lap of the race.
The Ferrari is a fundamentally fast car, and though this season they have only had themselves to blame as well as the bad luck, today was pretty much all down to the bad luck save Fernando losing three places at the start (which he pretty much recovered until the drive through).
It's not 'bad luck' if Alonso doesn't give up a place gained by a short cut, he knows the rules and that's why he asked his team the question
Massa's race was comprised by Alonso on lap 1, something Massa seemed to indicate in interview was entirely the fault of Alonso
I feel a little sorry for him in that the punishment in the end was far harsher than the crime, but if he'd been honest and just ceded the place, he'd have finished in the points still
I think the only bad luck part of it was the timing of it gets the penalty just as the SC comes out to put him further behind.
Yep. That was unfortunate, much like it was for him in Valencia.
But the rules are clear, he cut the corner and gained a place doing it, everyone knows that has to be given back, but instead he went steaming off after Rosberg and paid the price for that
He's the architect of his own downfall, he was unlucky that Kubcia had to retire, so when told to give the place back he couldn't and then the only punishment was the drive through and then unlucky again as the SC made the penalty much worse than it would've been
But an ok race, was impressed with the new track, obviously it worked well for the bikes the other week and I wasn't sure about it for the cars, but nice to see a couple overtakes after right (Abbey) left and then onto the right, and then also the new straight (Wellington?)
He's a proper racer, there are very few drivers who will willingly let a driver back past under those circumstances (as we have seen in the last few seasons), regardless of the protocol - though personally I don't question that they should follow the rules anyway. In Alonso's mind at that moment he will have thought "well he squeezed me and left no room, I had my nose in front, let me go on" - you said it yourself, the punishment was far worse than the 'crime'.
For me Massa isn't quite there with his car and hasn't been comfortable all season, regardless of whether Alonso mucked his race up or not. Alonso had one more trip into the pits than him, he didn't spin his car like Massa did and despite his setbacks he visibly made an effort and pushed to get back into some sort of respectable position, whereas it seemed Massa faded into anonymity towards the end of his race (fair enough if he was carrying a problem but then why didn't he retire the car - plus he's got to be prepared to fight against someone in the other half of his garage who plays hard to get his results).
Well if he's a racer, he's a racer that deserves his penalty then. You can be a racer and still observe basic rules
Even if he wanted to , Kubica crashed out so he could not anymore.
And Vettel can't blame Webber. He should go in line behind Webber but he was over eager and over agressive and he paid for it. Though I yet quite don't know how he managed to spin off.
Well I don't think he deserved that penalty anyway, as you inferred yourself, as did David Coulthard and Martin Brundle, plus he wouldn't have done so himself in the cockpit, so again, put yourself in his head, why should he have given it back?
Because he took a place by cutting the corner
I don't think it's harsh he was penalised, he ought to be. You just quickly give the position back, and you're lost maybe half a second. Simple stuff really
I thought he was a bit unlucky thereafter, one with Kubica going out so his penalty became a drive through, and then with the timing of the safety car that meant he then dropped to the back of the field
But it still comes down to the fact he's an arrogant prat who thinks he's beyond the rules, which are also all so unfair and the world is ganged up against him
Well I don't think the penalty was justified, but even if it was what's really annoying is why Stewards took so much time last time to give Hamilton his penalty (getting the drive through so late got him where he was in that race) and how come suddenly they start making swift decisions when it comes to Alonso this time? There ought to be some consistency. You can't take 20 laps to decide on Hamilton's penalty and give Alonso one almost immediately.
Incidents are different some take longer to look at like the Hamilton one I think even the BBC didn't notice till Ferrari went running to the FIA. With Alonso it was pretty easy he cut accross to gain a position.
The Hamilton penalty was an easy decision, and they were alerted to it by Ferrari immediately, the reason they took so long over it was because of the crash being the main priority, but for me they should be able to do two things at once. Penalties should be decided on and handed out within a set number of laps of the incident.
I think it fairness you can say the crash was a particularly extraordinary incident, and you can understand devoting attention to it
There's a richness involved here with Ferrari bleating about ill-treatment from the stewards and FIA!!!
There's a richness involved here with Ferrari bleating about ill-treatment from the stewards and FIA!!!
Puncture on the right rear tire.
I'd say its more to do with weight transfer then downforce. Seems to be more front heavy 'probably to look after the rears' so when the fuel goes in, it balances the car out nicely.