As the classic thread that saved United?There's no 'Eboue' option therefore I shall not vote.
This thread is gonna be absolute classic in 5-10 years and mods will tag it as 'sticky' for the decades to come.
Bet on that shit.
The 'Chosen One' banner
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The only embarrassing thing about this all if freaking stewards protecting a banner...
White knighting won't get anyone anywhere.
Most classics on Redcafe are full of entertainment.
Nothing personal.
During Talksport's last bulletin they reported that Stretford End Flags intend to hold a poll regarding its future.
Just been on their facebook page and didn't get that impression.
Stretford End Flags
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There have been calls from small groups of fans to take down the Chosen One banner. If the banner came down, it's basically the same as putting up a Moyes out banner.
As there has been no vocal or visible protest against the manager, then this isn't a call we will be making first.
We have a huge game against Bayern Munich next Tuesday and our focus will be on supporting the team to help win the tie.
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There have been calls from small groups of fans to take down the Chosen One banner. If the banner came down, it's basically the same as putting up a Moyes out banner.
As there has been no vocal or visible protest against the manager, then this isn't a call we will be making first.
We have a huge game against Bayern Munich next Tuesday and our focus will be on supporting the team to help win the tie.
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I think we'll eventually see Moyes out banners anyway.
Yeah, on their twitter page they seem to be playing dumb and don't get the impression that the fans want it down/him gone, and are just asking people how they suggest to poll everyone and if what they really want is the manager gone or the banner down. Basically they're being a big thick in all this.
I'll be interested to see who this poll is open to.
It could be easily fixed anyway.
This seems to be the recurring theme, no one wants to make the first move. I say we just give @Cal? a marker pen and let him get to work.
You will have to follow Tufty on Twitter to get a vote
^ It's going to be held on twitter is it? I wondered if it would be held on their website's forum which appears to be closed to guests.
Of course it's going to be on their forum.
Small groups of fans?
Does your voice not matter unless you bring 5,000 mates?
Can small groups be factions of a larger group?
People are acting like spoilt idiots. Why the hell should we take the banner down, that would be like working against our manager. I can take that people will protest, but not do anything that is so visale that it can effect the team. We should have more pride and class than than. I'm for giving Moyes next season to prove himself. This is petty behavior.
Guards protecting an embattled symbol of a crumbling regime along with an undemocratic vote. Makes North Korea look like Switzerland.
Who exactly do the stewards work for? On whose specific authority did they take up the responsibility of protecting the banner? Or was it an on-the-spot decision between the stewards themselves?
Maybe a stretch. Bad humor of going to an absurd conclusion to make a point.
Kim knows what he's doing!
Now that's offensive
Standard response from SEF, wasn't expecting anything else. That banner is staying until he goes.
Well we are Best United, but Newcastle might still overtake us
Everyone is now required to get the 'Wayne Rooney' haircut.
Fecking Glazer stooges. Plastic company making plastic flags designed to look as if they were put there by supporters.
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Nothing wrong with that response IMO.
I liked the old days...with whatever banners you like. this stage managed bollocks....
The supporters cheer the team and support the club.....there is no questioning that at the matches.
at the same time they do a have a right to question the management....that has led to the dismantling of title winning side in a matter months to the joke we now see.
....could not have been planned better.
The supporters cheer the team and support the club.....there is no questioning that at the matches.
at the same time they do a have a right to question the management....that has led to the dismantling of title winning side in a matter months to the joke we now see.
....could not have been planned better.
I know it's been posted before but this short vid is worth a look. The only gripe is that the opening shot is of United fans at Wembley in 1977 and not Old Trafford.
indeed mate....
that's when we the supporters actually were the club.....
the money bastards have stolen our club.....
that's when we the supporters actually were the club.....
the money bastards have stolen our club.....
That's why I tossed my season ticket in the bin years ago.
I moved away long after chucking it all in. Tell you the truth, I really didn't enjoy matchday at the end. It felt strange to sit next to someone who spent the entire 90 minutes in abject silence or tapping out texts on his mobile. I accept that I'm a dinosaur that can't or won't adapt to change but that's my own choice. My nephew thinks the 60s and 70s was all about hooligans kicking the shit out of each other and rioting at away grounds. He likes the way things are now and fair play to him but it's not for me.
you know...when the annual MUST subscription comes along...I just go along and renew...even used to donate extra...until the idiotic response to the Glazers....but I still renewed...cause I'm a sentimental fool. Honestly we will never get our club back. its fading before my eyes...but they will never take my memories.
its all kin money....
its all kin money....
funny enough.....standing among those lads...some of whom you would not want to be hanging around with normally...if you know what I mean....
that was the fun of it...and some of the unprintable shouts ringing out....yeah...there were some fights...but come on...think most of us got involved in some of that even if it was just verbals....
vast majority just went to support the club...even when we used get a hammering at times. The away support was just magic. Still is I hear.
...but its a matter of time before even bigger scum than the Glazers come along...and it will be their route to respectability...or whatever.
Big business has eaten the soul of football fandom. The club and Sky treat us like consumers which is why I could never subscribe to the blind faith tunnel vision expectations of a 'true fan'. I just see it as being a mug essentially handing over all that money and being expected not to question anything whilst cheering and clapping at the appropriate moments.
As for the people that find emotional fulfillment and value for money in going to United games home and away then I cannot argue with their subjective experience.
Personally I think that I pay enough through my Sky subscription and am a happy armchair fan these days. The only live games that I go to now are at local smaller clubs like Rochdale and Oldham. I will also be going to FC United when they open their new stadium. They really need the footfall and it is just a purer Lancastrian experience in my eyes, if not as exciting as a trip to OT.
don't get me wrong mate. I'm in no way criticizing the current match going supporter...or the satelite fans.....heck I'm one of em too. I just feel sorry for the current bunch of supporters.....they are being 'managed' like the business which used to be our club.
EDIT: I envy my dad....bloody tearing up typing this....
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funny enough.....standing among those lads...some of whom you would not want to be hanging around with normally...if you know what I mean....
yeah...there were some fights...but come on...think most of us got involved in some of that even if it was just verbals....
vast majority just went to support the club...even when we used get a hammering at times. The away support was just magic. Still is I hear.
...but its a matter of time before even bigger scum than the Glazers come along...and it will be their route to respectability...or whatever.
Sometimes you couldn't avoid it, especially at places like West Ham and Liverpool. I remember one match at Upton Park when the fighting spilled out onto the pitch. The surge was such that you had to jump the wall onto the field or get crushed. I just just curled up on the pitch-side of the wall and waited until all the bodies had jumped over me then got up and back onto the terrace. Scary stuff.
The Stretford End was a blast. I could get a bit funky in there at times with beery farts and cigarette smoke wafting on the breeze, not to mention the odd river of piss flowing down, but overall it wasn't too bad. I miss getting the "special" to away games too or the train up from Euston after home games became away games for me. Most of the home games weren't all ticket either and you could just roll up there an hour before kick off and get a good position. Some of the chanting was evil, especially the stuff thrown at the scousers and the sheep and I joined in with the rest, as you do.
Can you imagine the reaction then if some berk came on the PA and asked us to join in with a rendition of "United Roads" or if Fred the Red strolled out of the tunnel? They'd probably have bricked him for being so effing stupid looking.