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He was Fergie's choice!! Why shouldn't he share the blame?
So let's get this right then , the manager Fergie chose to take over from him ( specifically ) hasn't managed to succeed and it's not Fergie's fault , even slightly ? Doesn't make the great man seem a very good choice of character then ! Is this what you're saying ?
Sorry, I adore Fergie but he was the one who pushed Moyes' name forward . Are you saying Moyes under performed then and is capable of much better ?
Yes, I can say this is my view. Not capability wise so to speak but his learning curve was negative (not just slowly but non existing). Why? First off, he was not expected to rid of those capable back room staff who have been there, done that, and whose experience and respect from players are tremendous value to his transitioning (people keep talking about how many managers naturally and normally want their own people but Moyes is not someone who has the credential and appropriate people to tag along to help the job).

This is crucial because Sir Alex did not want him to do that (but he was not supposed to interfere right?)

Secondly, his handling of players was getting worse. His complaint of a team who have won so much, and even blamed Sir Alex for leaving him a team he himself should be struggling about. Is this something you think Sir Alex has foreseen? We can't go behind the reason why Sir Alex picked him but one of them must be that he (Moyes) should be taking advantage of what he (sir Alex) left off.

I can go on and on, but I suspect people like you (who is witch hunting) won't be agreeing. Sorry but I am begging to differ these opinion of yours.

Sir Alex should be the one who's most heart broken in the circumstances we are in now. It is like leaving a son to a carer who he trusts but it turns out the carer did things his own way. Moyes might be a good person but he's not learning. Something not anyone can predict.
 
Yes, I can say this is my view. Not capability wise so to speak but his learning curve was negative (not just slowly but non existing). Why? First off, he was not expected to rid of those capable back room staff who have been there, done that, and whose experience and respect from players are tremendous value to his transitioning (people keep talking about how many managers naturally and normally want their own people but Moyes is not someone who has the credential and appropriate people to tag along to help the job).

This is crucial because Sir Alex did not want him to do that (but he was not supposed to interfere right?)

Secondly, his handling of players was getting worse. His complaint of a team who have won so much, and even blamed Sir Alex for leaving him a team he himself should be struggling about. Is this something you think Sir Alex has foreseen? We can't go behind the reason why Sir Alex picked him but one of them must be that he (Moyes) should be taking advantage of what he (sir Alex) left off.

I can go on and on, but I suspect people like you (who is witch hunting) won't be agreeing. Sorry but I am begging to differ these opinion of yours.

Sir Alex should be the one who's most heart broken in the circumstances we are in now. It is like leaving a son to a carer who he trusts but it turns out the carer did things his own way. Moyes might be a good person but he's not learning. Something not anyone can predict.
I can assure you there is no " witch hunt ". However your suggestion that Moyes let Fergie down ( despite being the anointed one ) is specious at best , but actually ludicrous
 
I can assure you there is no " witch hunt ". However your suggestion that Moyes let Fergie down ( despite being the anointed one ) is specious at best , but actually ludicrous
Say whatever you want, but I am certain (100%) Sir Alex feels let down. You think he foresaw a champion team will become 7th and be out of Europe next year under Moyes? You are really having a laugh.

So, I still think you are witch hunting, albeit subtly.
 
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion but I do think Fergie must take some of the blame , no matter how small
Yes, and I think my opinion is the right one :))

People who complained seem not to realise it is a tough job at United. Fergie has set the bar so high yet he himself knows it is not an easier job to find a successor who can be passed the torch. Getting a high profile manager who has the credential to succeed him is easy because there are no shortage of willing candidates. But that manager has also need to have the character and willingness to stay in a club for a long long time.

Moyes' credential seemed (to him) to fit the bill in the sense that if he's staying in United long enough and was given the money to spend he would be able to build a team another level of Everton.

Little did he (Fergie) know Moyes was skipping the learning process (firing back room staff and insisting on using his mediocre mentality in managing his players, breaking all the United records etc.)

Fergie has spoilt United fans for many years, and fans expect him to do magic (his management skill is top notch, hence his choosing of his successor must also be top notch). He's a magician but he's not God. When we are now 7th and out of Europe next year, if Fergie is not heart broken, I don't know how he would have felt.

Blaming him is like biting the hand that feeds you. Without Fergie in the first place, what kind of glory we fans have been enjoying for so many years? Without him, we wouldn't be feeling disappointed we are not in Europe next season (because for 19 years we were never out of it). Without Fergie, we wouldn't be feeling aggrieved we were not challenging title/being top 4.

But no, fans thought Fergie, when retiring, should have appointed someone who is perfect. If it is not the case, it's his fault. Hindsight is 20/20 and he is not a God (albeit Godlike)
 
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