It's not even. If we get a few injuries we're screwed and if you go on a bit of a run you're right back in it.
The chase for 4th place (not top 4)
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Let’s be honest, Arsenal are a brilliant team to watch play again. They deserve 4th with this team
The arse play Liverpool on Wednesday they won’t get anything out of that, then villa away on Saturday, which on paper they should win but you never know, hopefully we can hit some form just keep winning and it’s possible
Arsenal will get it, and so they should, they’ve been much better than us over the course of the season. We just need to keep winning and hope they slip up.
Villa away will tell us how far this Arsenal side of come, in previous seasons that's been a loss for them
Arsenal should finish 4th or even 3rd pretty comfortably. Even if they drop some points, we will almost certainly drop points too
No it won’t. That can only happen if the winner of the UCL finishes outside top 4. Basically we would need to win the UCL for it to happen
Many thanks.
The highly unlikely has happened before, and not that long ago.
At least we know Arsenal will lose to Liverpool this week, so it’s 1 point ahead with 2 games in hand in reality. Hopefully that loss will kill some momentum.
Odegaard is something else. Special player.
Yep. If they take more 4 or more from those two games it's all over.
That game against Liverpool will cancel out our trip to Anfield. So back where we started !
We need a new thread for top 6. This was over for us after they beat Wolves.
We’ll win the CL this season so it’s ok if we miss out on top 4.
Fair play to Arsenal and arteta if they finish in top 4. Yes we and spurs have been crap but that's not their fault.
United don't even deserve top 4. They have played like chumps the entire season. While City and Liverpool breeze through the competition, Chelsea and Arsenal play with gumption and valor. United struggle to beat or draw with bottom table teams and I don't see any way out of this stupor going forward. They will finish 5th to 7th and deservedly so. I'm so amazed that the core of players coming off 3rd and 2nd place finishes in the last two seasons can barely qualify for Europe and have looked like shite for most every game this season. Oh and they'll be out of Champions in about 50 hours. Pathetic.
Don't hide it, divide it.
U OK hun? x
Yeah we're fecked. Thought we would still have a shot but looking at their remaining schedule, fourth is theirs. I blame these fecking players. Plenty of chances to close out games and just bottled it. Yesterday's win was huge for moral but it doesn't hide the major cracks in this side.
Be surprised if Arsenal throw it away from here, even though they're Arsenal. It's far too out of our hands. Both teams will drop points, but I'd expect us to drop more.
Arsenal have a lot of tough games left. It's not over yet although they are definitely favs now.
If they were to lose to Liverpool and not win at Villa next weekend then things would look very different again.
Our game against them is going to be pivotal I just know it. We are going to have to win that one which won't be easy at all
If they were to lose to Liverpool and not win at Villa next weekend then things would look very different again.
Our game against them is going to be pivotal I just know it. We are going to have to win that one which won't be easy at all
The moment we failed to beat Watford at home was when we lost it. No chance were catching fecking Arsenal.
Arsenals remaining games
Liverpool (h)
Villa (a)
Palace (a)
Brighton (h)
Southampton (a)
Man Utd (h)
West Ham (a)
Leeds (h)
Newcastle (a)
Everton (h)
Spurs (a) TBA
Chelsea (a) TBA
Next 7 are pretty tricky tbf, last 3 are easy. The two TBA will be tough as well
Man Utd
Leicester (h)
Everton (a)
Norwich (h)
Arsenal (a)
Brentford (h)
Brighton (a)
Chelsea (h)
Palace (a)
Liverpool (a)
As we're a team that could score a goal against Watford or more than 1 against Championship Boro every game looks tough for us
Liverpool (h)
Villa (a)
Palace (a)
Brighton (h)
Southampton (a)
Man Utd (h)
West Ham (a)
Leeds (h)
Newcastle (a)
Everton (h)
Spurs (a) TBA
Chelsea (a) TBA
Next 7 are pretty tricky tbf, last 3 are easy. The two TBA will be tough as well
Man Utd
Leicester (h)
Everton (a)
Norwich (h)
Arsenal (a)
Brentford (h)
Brighton (a)
Chelsea (h)
Palace (a)
Liverpool (a)
As we're a team that could score a goal against Watford or more than 1 against Championship Boro every game looks tough for us
We can afford to drop only 6 points, give or take, until the end of the season to have a real chance for 4th place. Looking at our fixture list this is obviously outside the realm of possibility. We are officially worse than Arsenal. With Arteta as manager no loess. They will be in the CL, we will not. The Glazers have finally destroyed this club.
We've been in division one before you drama queen.
We'll still be within reach when we play again on April 2nd. Let's see how things shape up after that before throwing in the towel.
Not in the easiest situation. Let's see where we are aftr the Leicester match. The upcoming break isn't good for momentum.
Arsenal just won't drop points at the moment. United have some catching up to do.
It just shows how easy it could turn around next season with a few good decisions if anything. Fair play to Arsenal they've deserved it.
We will on Wednesday. Although that game is almost a free hit, as Liverpool will also beat Utd and Spurs.
Frustrating that we play the last game this weekend, midweek against the current best team in the country, and then the first game early next weekend. Why that necessary I am not sure.
Arsenal will feck it up. The problem is we will too.
It's not looking good for us I have to admit. Really wanted Leicester to grab something there.
Don't suppose Chelsea will collapse or something will happen to deny them CL football either.
Don't suppose Chelsea will collapse or something will happen to deny them CL football either.
Doing a lot better than United is at the moment.
Tbh, some Chelsea ban is our only choice. We can't finish above Arsenal. Sure, they will lose some points but we will too
We should be winning our next 3. No excuses. We win at Arsenal and they will be start to wobble.
Can see Arsenal getting something against the scousers and Chelsea. They are playing with real confidence since that late winner over Wolves.
We desperately need them to lose some confidence before the game at The Emirates.
We desperately need them to lose some confidence before the game at The Emirates.
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Our next 7 games are definitely tricky, plus we have spurs and Chelsea away and could see us drop quite a few points. But I'm not worried about United since they also have tricky games away to Liverpool, Arsenal and home to Chelsea and will drop as many points as us.
I see the threat coming more from Tottenham. They have a relatively easy set of fixtures aside from Liverpool away and us at home. Without any distractions from other cup competitions, I can see them putting all their efforts here and going on a decent run.
Brighton (a)
West Ham (h)
Newcastle (h)
Villa (a)
Brighton (h)
Brentford (a)
Leicester (h)
Liverpool (a)
Burnley (h)
Norwich (a)
Arsenal (h) TBA
We were rock bottom of the table Matchday 3. No points, no goals, and 9 against, although we had Covid & injury problems.
This has been our form since.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pre...le/wettbewerb/GB1?saison_id=2021&min=4&max=29
This has been our form since.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pre...le/wettbewerb/GB1?saison_id=2021&min=4&max=29
Particularly when you consider how poor their start was. But form can turn and if we can build on the Spurs win we could still secure 4th
Are people still believing we can get top 4?
Mathematically yes but in reality no chance. We would need to win all 9 games to have a chance and hope Arsenal lose 3 or more. They will drop some points but so will we, that is inevitable.
Fair play with the optimism though.
Mathematically yes but in reality no chance. We would need to win all 9 games to have a chance and hope Arsenal lose 3 or more. They will drop some points but so will we, that is inevitable.
Fair play with the optimism though.