The All-time Auction Draft

antohan said:
Exactly, in attack Forlán would have been a second striker and Zidane the tip of the diamond. It was just shown as a XMAS tree precisely because it was a conservative setup and it was worth highlighting Diego would drop deep and would work his socks off supporting the build up as usual.



Sure, but I had played the same frontline throughout the tourno so that much should have been expected. Even getting Rivaldo, you can hardly argue I was hugging the line and tearing into them any more than I would with Zidane-Candela (NT partners to boot) and Zanetti-Lucho (with Zanetti well used to crossing for Vieri). Then there was Davids-Seedorf... That was another rookie mistake: I had proven partnerships all over the pitch yet didn't stress it at all.

That said, maybe people weren't ready for it. I had placed great emphasis on character, leadership, big game players, while the oppo had a fair few faint-hearted bottlers. I had made a point of making an all-Serie A defence: players that hadn't necessarily played together but would play with a common ethos (as opposed to Canna-Carvalho-Capdevila and Gary feckin' Kelly). Stressing both those points didn't seem to make the least bit difference.

I know it's odd I keep banging on about it, but I was royally pissed off at the time. With myself for letting my boys down and with all the earlybird voters who, frankly, acted like a bunch of cnuts. It was my first draft and rather than being supportive or offering advice they just seemed overly keen on punishing non-conformity with conventional wisdom.
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From recollection it seemed like a missed opportunity not to front Rivaldo up against Gary Kelly. Even though Davids was an upgrade on Simeone, it wasn't necessarily offering anything different to the shape of the game. Whereas Rivaldo taking Kelly to the cleaners in the same way that he embarrassed his Leeds United team in 2000 was a game-changer.

 
Gio said:
From recollection it seemed like a missed opportunity not to front Rivaldo up against Gary Kelly. Even though Davids was an upgrade on Simeone, it wasn't necessarily offering anything different to the shape of the game. Whereas Rivaldo taking Kelly to the cleaners in the same way that he embarrassed his Leeds United team in 2000 was a game-changer.
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The only so-called mismatch I remember being mentioned was Henry "destroying Zanetti" in that one freak CL game. Yes, even then the tendency to resort to games proving mismatches was to do so when the game wasn't a fair/accurate representation of both players.

I don't think most of those voting had that specific game in mind, don't recall that being the issue but more a case of "Antohan being blinded by his loyalty to Forlán/Montero" and such crap (for not picking either Rivaldo or Ferdinand).
I quite simply thought I needed to ensure that on top of the best defence I also had the best midfield and Davids had that little extra which set me clear of what I regarded as massive overrating of Vieira (which continues to this day). Having both him and Seedorf was also a personal treat, I love that pair. I also felt having them did far more to ensure I could work the flanks effectively than getting yet another inside left who wasn't really a winger either.

The only comfort I ever found about it was with regards to goalies. I'm sure VDS vs Barthez (not that they play each other) was the difference for at least one, and enough to make all the difference. Can't really complain about that, it should happen sometimes that finals go down to keepers.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
cant decide which period to take for Cafu peak :nervous:
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I imagined he would be a tricky player to go for. His career for Brazils National team started in 1990 and he didn't join a team Europe(After his short failed stint at Zaragoza) until he was 27 in 1997. South American team of the year 4 consecutive years between 92-95 and was named the South American footballer of the year in 94.

Most people remember his Milan period when he was 33-37 years old, and that is also when he was awarded the most individual awards but I wouldn't say it was his peak. Will be fun to see how you go about it.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
cant decide which period to take for Cafu peak :nervous:
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Depends on what you need. Cafú at Sao Paulo would be the better wingback (he evolved from right winger to essentially a right midfielder starting from deeper), Cafú at Roma/Milan the better defender. The beauty is Sao Paulo, Brazil/Roma and Milan had different tactics, so whichever is more like yours should be the peak you are going for.
 
I need a good defender(so probably not the youngest Cafu) but i also need offensive outlet(so not Milan one even though he was still a good offensive fullback).....Cafu from Roma is probably the best i saw but it was so long ago i'm not really sure which one to choose as he was there for 6 years.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
I need a good defender(so probably not the youngest Cafu) but i also need offensive outlet(so not Milan one even though he was still a good offensive fullback).....Cafu from Roma is probably the best i saw but it was so long ago i'm not really sure which one to choose as he was there for 6 years.
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I would say 1999-2002
 
Either go for 99-02 or 00-03 to include the Scuddeto winning Roma side of 00 and the World Cup winning Brazil side of 2002
 
thats what i thought, the biggest dilemma was which WC to include, 98 or 02.....will probably go for 00-02, thanks everybody :)
 
Physiocrat said:
Either go for 99-02 or 00-03 to include the Scuddeto winning Roma side of 00 and the World Cup winning Brazil side of 2002
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AFAIC 1999-2002 would include the World Cup. It's not like the moment the league season finished his peak stopped and what he did the next month accounts for an entire different year.

Quite surprised anyone would treat it any differently. Also, the World Cup is the climax of 2001-2002, not the warm-up to 2002-03.

Not that it matters, we all know which Cafú it is.
 
antohan said:
AFAIC 1999-2002 would include the World Cup. It's not like the moment the league season finished his peak stopped and what he did the next month accounts for an entire different year.

Quite surprised anyone would treat it any differently. Also, the World Cup is the climax of 2001-2002, not the warm-up to 2002-03.

Not that it matters, we all know which Cafú it is.
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Very true. My intention was to say just choose between the year 1999 and the year 2003 as you definitely need 2000 and 2002
 
You may find you've lost several wouldbe voters.

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Joga Bonito said:
The defender sliding for the dummy in the first goal :lol:
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Duberry there reminds me of Geoffrey Green's description of Puskas' drag-back past a bemused Billy Wright before firing it into the roof of the net in 1953, like a "fire engine going to the wrong fire".
 
Sounds good. I've sent mine to Annah so let me know when you have as well, as we may need to find someone else. My schedule is much the same everyday so I'm flexible in terms of when to play.
 
I will be home from tomorrow night and forth. I can set up a game now if anybody wants to play now.
 
Will send in mine in a few hours, for tomorrow's match. Almost done with it.
 
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MJJ said:
:lol: It feels like it's being going on for ages.

Edit- The op was posted on may 13 :lol:
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Delay in this round is all down to me. Been travelling to work so I don't have time to hussle the managers to arrange matches themselves.
 
Annahnomoss said:
Delay in this round is all down to me. Been travelling to work so I don't have time to hussle the managers to arrange matches themselves.
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Nah, it's not all your fault mate. They shouldn't really be needed to hustled, all draft veterans. Should be able to organise themselves.
 
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