I think what he means is his mode of attack is not the traditional bombing down the flank and overlapping one. In 82, he basically came inside and started playing as a CM, with Falcão moving forward as the AM and in turn Zico moving as a second striker/striker to occupy the box, with Eder going out wide and stretch play. That domino effect made him a perfect fit for that system, and it needed four! hybrids - Junior (RB/CM), Falcão (CM/AM), Zico (AM/SS) and Eder (SS/W).
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Nah, it has more to do with Junior being a right footed LB who loved cutting inside - kind of like Breitner in that regard and wouldn't suit Rivelinho the best there imo. You really do love your maverick left backs don't you
Junior as RB/CM, Charlton as CM/AM, Rivelino stretching play and Vieri scoring or holding for Charlton to score...was perfect as I thought
Nah, it has more to do with Junior being a right footed LB who loved cutting inside - kind of like Breitner in that regard and wouldn't suit Rivelino the best there imo. You really do love your maverick left backs don't you
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A drastic change of tactics going by the dutch way! And my favourite...weird formations!
.................Vieri.................
...Rivelino....Charlton..Jairzinho
....Junior...Sammer...Bonhof.....
....Forster...Burgnich...Djalma....
His regular tendency would be to come inside, same as Junior's which is where I think the issue is, not much stretching of play can be expected by those two on that side.
Should've just let me have him, I had the perfect left back to make the best use out of him.
You are decimating Matthäus there for little gain when Cafú is already patrolling that flank.
Never on the left.
RCB isn't something he played but definitely something he had good attributes for. But others would remain unused and wasted.
I really can't see him and Cafú adding to the sum of parts. Shame, because he deserves to be in this draft. Some of the names I'm seeing...
Right of a midfield pair, same way others play Edwards left of a midfield pair. Few would cover/support Cafú better.
As b2b, not a holding midfielder. The beast of a holding midfielder there was Lorenzo Fernandez. He had Argentina (ergo, draft favourite Luis Monti) in his pocket for a decade but never gets a look-in. I do get it with Varela as he was Fernández + Nasazzi's leadership, but the hard on for Monti is a mystery to me.
Junior as RB/CM, Charlton as CM/AM, Rivelino stretching play and Vieri scoring or holding for Charlton to score...was perfect as I thought
Back to square 0
A drastic change of tactics going by the dutch way! And my favourite...weird formations!
.................Vieri.................
...Rivelino....Charlton..Jairzinho
....Junior...Sammer...Bonhof.....
....Forster...Burgnich...Djalma....
Can't you play Charlton in the LW/LAM role? He is probably the best suited to doing that on your team and Rivelino in the centre is pretty damn good in itself.
Only way he fixes the width issue and Junior/Rivelino clashing/not adding up.
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Andrade Da Guia Santamaria LB
Blanchflower
Coluna Masopust
Matthews ST Gento
Andrade Da Guia Santamaria LB
Blanchflower
Coluna Masopust
Matthews ST Gento
Which Andrade do you have.. I am so confused right now. Was yours a right back too?
Reserved for Paul Janes' story
Paul Janes was a defender for Fortuna Dusseldorf in 1930-1941 and 1947-1951. Between 1932 and 1942, he represented German national team a total of 71 times and remained the most capped player until the record was overtaken by Uwe Seeler in 1970's. He was a member of the legendary "Breslau Eleven" that defeated Denmark 8-0 in May 1937
As a little boy, Janes started playing first team football for his home club Jahn Küppersteg. At the age of 16 years, Janes was already regarded as a highly talented played
Janes' performance in a friendly match caught the eyes of Willi Pesch (1907-1940) and Stanislaus Kobierski (1910-1972) from Fortuna Dusseldorf, and gave him a trial at their club. Beginning of 1930, Jane was inducted into the ranks of Fortuna. Already a hit in his first friendly match, he finally moved up to the first team
In his first season in 1931, Paul Janes has established himself as right-back for Fortuna Dusseldorf and won the Western German football championship
In 1933, Paul Janes helped Fortuna Dusseldorf to win the German football championship. The championship final took place in the Müngersdorfer Stadium Cologne, in which Fortuna beat FC Schalke 04 3:0. Paul Janes was celebrated by the fans and the press as a "hero of Müngersdorf". Prior to final, Fortuna beat Rasensport Gleiwitz 9:0, Arminia Hannover 3:0 and Eintracht Frankfurt 4:0. Till this day, the victory in the Cup final in 1933 is the greatest success in the club's history of Fortuna
Janes was called up by Germany national team, and played his second international match in 10.22.1933. His impressive performance at 8:1 victory over Belgium cemented his status as an indispensable key players
The surprising third place finish at the FIFA World Cup in Italy 1934 was Janes' biggest international success. Although the German team, which has the youngest squad with an average age of 23 years, was considered as non-favourite in the World Cup, they won in an exciting game for third place against favorites Austria 3:2. Jane was one of the most outstanding player in the tournament
Janes was known by his coaches, as well as players and referees as affable and "easy-care". He was appreciated for his speed, positional sense, ball control and power, which most strikers feared
In 1937, Janes competed on the international stage again under the new coach Sepp Herberger. The German team was outstanding, winning ten of its eleven international matches. In 05/16/1937 at the stadium of the Silesian metropolis Wroclaw, German won 8:0 against Denmark. The German team celebrated football at its best. Denmark, who was actually a strong opponent, was literally swept off. The victory went down in history not only by the margin of victory, but also the exciting style of play especially from five-goal scorer Otto Siffling and Paul Janes as "Breslau Eleven". The superiority of the German team in 1937 made the "Breslau Eleven" one of the top favorites for the World Cup. However, the "annexation" of Austria in 12.3.1938 to the German Reich destroyed Paul Janes and his teammates' title dream. For political reasons, coach Sepp Herberger was forced to change the team's formation, and played six Germans and five Austrians in the starting eleven. Janes was forced to play in midfield. His team eventually lost to Switzerland 2:4 in second round
In his 71 internationals from 1932 to 1942, Janes scored seven goals and was able to record 41 wins and 14 draws. He wore the captain's armband in 31 games
The outbreak of World War II and the resulting adjustment of the international game operation interrupted his national career. It was only after the war ended in 1945, Janes returned to Dusseldorf and played from 1947 until end of his career in 1951, curtailed by injury. Overall, he completed another 73 games for Fortuna and scored 14 goals
Paul Janes died in 12.6.1987 due to heart failure. The old stadium of Fortuna Dusseldorf was renamed as Paul-Janes-Stadion in his honor
As a little boy, Janes started playing first team football for his home club Jahn Küppersteg. At the age of 16 years, Janes was already regarded as a highly talented played
Janes' performance in a friendly match caught the eyes of Willi Pesch (1907-1940) and Stanislaus Kobierski (1910-1972) from Fortuna Dusseldorf, and gave him a trial at their club. Beginning of 1930, Jane was inducted into the ranks of Fortuna. Already a hit in his first friendly match, he finally moved up to the first team
In his first season in 1931, Paul Janes has established himself as right-back for Fortuna Dusseldorf and won the Western German football championship
In 1933, Paul Janes helped Fortuna Dusseldorf to win the German football championship. The championship final took place in the Müngersdorfer Stadium Cologne, in which Fortuna beat FC Schalke 04 3:0. Paul Janes was celebrated by the fans and the press as a "hero of Müngersdorf". Prior to final, Fortuna beat Rasensport Gleiwitz 9:0, Arminia Hannover 3:0 and Eintracht Frankfurt 4:0. Till this day, the victory in the Cup final in 1933 is the greatest success in the club's history of Fortuna
Janes was called up by Germany national team, and played his second international match in 10.22.1933. His impressive performance at 8:1 victory over Belgium cemented his status as an indispensable key players
The surprising third place finish at the FIFA World Cup in Italy 1934 was Janes' biggest international success. Although the German team, which has the youngest squad with an average age of 23 years, was considered as non-favourite in the World Cup, they won in an exciting game for third place against favorites Austria 3:2. Jane was one of the most outstanding player in the tournament
Janes was known by his coaches, as well as players and referees as affable and "easy-care". He was appreciated for his speed, positional sense, ball control and power, which most strikers feared
In 1937, Janes competed on the international stage again under the new coach Sepp Herberger. The German team was outstanding, winning ten of its eleven international matches. In 05/16/1937 at the stadium of the Silesian metropolis Wroclaw, German won 8:0 against Denmark. The German team celebrated football at its best. Denmark, who was actually a strong opponent, was literally swept off. The victory went down in history not only by the margin of victory, but also the exciting style of play especially from five-goal scorer Otto Siffling and Paul Janes as "Breslau Eleven". The superiority of the German team in 1937 made the "Breslau Eleven" one of the top favorites for the World Cup. However, the "annexation" of Austria in 12.3.1938 to the German Reich destroyed Paul Janes and his teammates' title dream. For political reasons, coach Sepp Herberger was forced to change the team's formation, and played six Germans and five Austrians in the starting eleven. Janes was forced to play in midfield. His team eventually lost to Switzerland 2:4 in second round
In his 71 internationals from 1932 to 1942, Janes scored seven goals and was able to record 41 wins and 14 draws. He wore the captain's armband in 31 games
The outbreak of World War II and the resulting adjustment of the international game operation interrupted his national career. It was only after the war ended in 1945, Janes returned to Dusseldorf and played from 1947 until end of his career in 1951, curtailed by injury. Overall, he completed another 73 games for Fortuna and scored 14 goals
Paul Janes died in 12.6.1987 due to heart failure. The old stadium of Fortuna Dusseldorf was renamed as Paul-Janes-Stadion in his honor
Littbarski's strong free kick that rattled the bar
Littbarski's goal
Littbarski's cross for equalizer
Littbarski's goal
Littbarski's cross for equalizer
Goal
Long-range passing led to goal
Long-range passing led to goal
Header clearance
Interception and passing to teammate
Tackle
Interception and passing to teammate
Tackle
Brehme's cross to Klinsmann
Brehme's goal
Brehme's goal
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Nah, I like Charlton through the left middle role he has now.
Simpler way is the hijack Theon's Lizarazu bid. Thankfully I still have spare cash for these kind of contingencies.
I can use Junior as a DM in place of Desailly in my alternate formation if needed.
GK
Peruzzi - 10m - berbasloth 9.05
DF
Junior - 18m - EAP - 03.06
Vogts - 32m - Theon - 03.32
Desailly - 29m - Theon - 8:11
Jose Antonio Camacho-10m-MDFC Manager-09.35
Zambrotta - 10m - Sjor - 12:09
Costacurta - 15m - rpitroda- 13:07
Lizarazu - 20m - EAP - 15:08
MF
Suarez - 10m - Theon - 7.29
Hierro - 15m - berbasloth - 9.34
Voronin - 10m - Crappy - 11.21
Zoltan Czibor - 30m - Sjor - 12:09
Schuster - 10m - EAP - 12:20
Ballack - 10m - Marty1968 - 12:40
FW
Jose Moreno - 16m - Crappy - 05.04
Rivera - 10m - Crappy - 05.07
Larsson - 10m - berbasloth - 9.05
Kubala - 10m - Aldo - 10.12
D. Dean - 10m - Stobzilla 11:00
@Theon Lizarazu
Peruzzi - 10m - berbasloth 9.05
DF
Junior - 18m - EAP - 03.06
Vogts - 32m - Theon - 03.32
Desailly - 29m - Theon - 8:11
Jose Antonio Camacho-10m-MDFC Manager-09.35
Zambrotta - 10m - Sjor - 12:09
Costacurta - 15m - rpitroda- 13:07
Lizarazu - 20m - EAP - 15:08
MF
Suarez - 10m - Theon - 7.29
Hierro - 15m - berbasloth - 9.34
Voronin - 10m - Crappy - 11.21
Zoltan Czibor - 30m - Sjor - 12:09
Schuster - 10m - EAP - 12:20
Ballack - 10m - Marty1968 - 12:40
FW
Jose Moreno - 16m - Crappy - 05.04
Rivera - 10m - Crappy - 05.07
Larsson - 10m - berbasloth - 9.05
Kubala - 10m - Aldo - 10.12
D. Dean - 10m - Stobzilla 11:00
@Theon Lizarazu
@Joga Bonito are you ready to change your mind on what would be the best steal of the draft, in a few hours?
His regular tendency would be to come inside, same as Junior's which is where I think the issue is, not much stretching of play can be expected by those two on that side.
Should've just let me have him, I had the perfect left back to make the best use out of him.
His regular tendency would be to stay on the inside, and occasionally move out wide. What he deserves a lot of credit for is the fact that he could play that overcrowded role very well though. But yes some overlapping left back would look awesome next to him.
Sounds like fun.
@Joga Bonito are you ready to change your mind on what would be the best steal of the draft, in a few hours?
Luisito, Kubala and Rivera going for 10m are all fantastic deals, esp Luisito who I personally love as a player. Unbelievable versatility and class, all with zero 'tactical baggage' - phenomenal player. It's ripe time for Kubala to have a good draft too.
Just noticed Schuster for 10m
.That's the one.
Theon - Camacho - 12m @MDFC Manager
So in ranking of positions.. who has signed the best in each position do you reckon guys.. who is the creme de le creme (allowing for certain variations in positions).
I think Didi should be the playmaker and not Matthaus.
GK
Peruzzi - 10m - berbasloth 9.05
DF
Desailly - 29m - Theon - 8:11
Zambrotta - 10m - Sjor - 12:09
Costacurta - 15m - rpitroda- 13:07
Lizarazu - 20m - EAP - 15:08
Camacho - 25m - Stobzilla - 16:05
Zambrotta - 12m - MDFC Manager - 16:11
MF
Suarez - 10m - Theon - 7.29
Hierro - 15m - berbasloth - 9.34
Voronin - 10m - Crappy - 11.21
Zoltan Czibor - 30m - Sjor - 12:09
Schuster - 10m - EAP - 12:20
Ballack - 10m - Marty1968 - 12:40
FW
Jose Moreno - 16m - Crappy - 05.04
Rivera - 10m - Crappy - 05.07
Larsson - 10m - berbasloth - 9.05
Kubala - 10m - Aldo - 10.12
D. Dean - 10m - Stobzilla 11:00
Peruzzi - 10m - berbasloth 9.05
DF
Desailly - 29m - Theon - 8:11
Zambrotta - 10m - Sjor - 12:09
Costacurta - 15m - rpitroda- 13:07
Lizarazu - 20m - EAP - 15:08
Camacho - 25m - Stobzilla - 16:05
Zambrotta - 12m - MDFC Manager - 16:11
MF
Suarez - 10m - Theon - 7.29
Hierro - 15m - berbasloth - 9.34
Voronin - 10m - Crappy - 11.21
Zoltan Czibor - 30m - Sjor - 12:09
Schuster - 10m - EAP - 12:20
Ballack - 10m - Marty1968 - 12:40
FW
Jose Moreno - 16m - Crappy - 05.04
Rivera - 10m - Crappy - 05.07
Larsson - 10m - berbasloth - 9.05
Kubala - 10m - Aldo - 10.12
D. Dean - 10m - Stobzilla 11:00
Raees - José Leandro Andrade - Right half back
Stobzilla - Víctor Rodríguez Andrade - Left half back
Both are old style DM's and played on opposite flanks.
GK
Peruzzi - 10m - berbasloth 9.05
DF
Desailly - 29m - Theon - 8:11
Jose Antonio Camacho-10m-MDFC Manager-09.35
Costacurta - 15m - rpitroda- 13:07
Lizarazu - 20m - EAP - 15:08
Mcgrain - 10m - Skizzo - 16:22
Zambrotta - 15m - Sjor - 16:35
MF
Suarez - 10m - Theon - 7.29
Hierro - 15m - berbasloth - 9.34
Voronin - 10m - Crappy - 11.21
Zoltan Czibor - 30m - Sjor - 12:09
Schuster - 10m - EAP - 12:20
Ballack - 10m - Marty1968 - 12:40
FW
Jose Moreno - 16m - Crappy - 05.04
Rivera - 10m - Crappy - 05.07
Larsson - 10m - berbasloth - 9.05
Kubala - 10m - Aldo - 10.12
D. Dean - 10m - Stobzilla 11:00
Peruzzi - 10m - berbasloth 9.05
DF
Desailly - 29m - Theon - 8:11
Jose Antonio Camacho-10m-MDFC Manager-09.35
Costacurta - 15m - rpitroda- 13:07
Lizarazu - 20m - EAP - 15:08
Mcgrain - 10m - Skizzo - 16:22
Zambrotta - 15m - Sjor - 16:35
MF
Suarez - 10m - Theon - 7.29
Hierro - 15m - berbasloth - 9.34
Voronin - 10m - Crappy - 11.21
Zoltan Czibor - 30m - Sjor - 12:09
Schuster - 10m - EAP - 12:20
Ballack - 10m - Marty1968 - 12:40
FW
Jose Moreno - 16m - Crappy - 05.04
Rivera - 10m - Crappy - 05.07
Larsson - 10m - berbasloth - 9.05
Kubala - 10m - Aldo - 10.12
D. Dean - 10m - Stobzilla 11:00
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This is a bit old mate, use the one couple of posts above
He was the most expensive defender? Beckenbauer at 56 is the highest I saw I think.
15m Zambrotta @MDFC Manager
Problem is I prefer all three of your midfielders on the right
This draft will be a lot more about tactical fit than being la creme de la creme.
Will have a stab at my preferred lineup within budget once you are done.
You did. Victor Rodriguez Andrade (RB/LB).
Victor played both at ease. More of a defender as well. JL was better going forward.
Agreed, would work better with Didi swapped as he was much closer to RAM than LCM.
No worries, that said @Edgar Allan Pillow .. in the footage I watched of Didi v France for example, he kept roaming up and down closer to the left flank and cutting in.
This is my team in terms of the greatest bargains. Impossible to decide between the central defenders as there are so many near 10 mill players of equal brilliance and I couldn't find a stand-out duo in any team either. Same goes for the goalkeepers.
